We need a rivalry

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I was thinking about why (at least) NA VCT feels so boring, and I honestly think it's because we are missing a rivalry. Most NA players are basically washed CS players who played on the same teams, so there's no real reason to hate one another. When it comes to international, the teams barely know each other. When Zellsis called out FNS as being trash, I was waiting for a response... but no we need to be absolutely respectful to each other.

I'm not saying we need Keznit level of toxicity (aka racism), just that a few more toxic players would actually help the game.

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I think we need zekken back on initiator

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michaelisupset [#2]

I think we need zekken back on initiator

who plays duelist ?

i volunteer sacy

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I think Demon1 is an insane player, but stuff like this makes me not want to support him and EG

ik they don't care, but curious to hear what you guys prefer:

• humble players
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• trash talk/ego type players

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every NA player is just friends with each other lmao, the biggest rivalry there was, was Fns Vs xeppa 💀💀💀

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FrenchToast [#3]

who plays duelist ?

i volunteer sacy

young gunner named oxy floating around

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Hades_Loves_Rb [#4]

I think Demon1 is an insane player, but stuff like this makes me not want to support him and EG

ik they don't care, but curious to hear what you guys prefer:

• humble players
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• trash talk/ego type players

I'm not saying we need 100 toxic players - I fully support humble kings like valyn.

But what is up with the complete lack of competitiveness? I'm convinced Riot is micromanaging player interactions.

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Hades_Loves_Rb [#4]

I think Demon1 is an insane player, but stuff like this makes me not want to support him and EG

ik they don't care, but curious to hear what you guys prefer:

• humble players
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• trash talk/ego type players

Humble ones imo I like others might like other type

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FrenchToast [#3]

who plays duelist ?

i volunteer sacy

aspas

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Hades_Loves_Rb [#4]

I think Demon1 is an insane player, but stuff like this makes me not want to support him and EG

ik they don't care, but curious to hear what you guys prefer:

• humble players
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• trash talk/ego type players

Trash talk is like the back bone of esports, if everyone was humble then story lines would become rarer. I get that having someone talk shit the entire season gets annoying, but also watching the shit talker win or lose gives more 'emotion' (ig) to that win. That's just what I think

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Because when a player tries to bring some fun to this snowflake scene they are immediately fined or the playerbase calls them toxic

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michaelisupset [#9]

aspas

tenz, zekken and aspas on the same team should be illegal

it would be so over for everyone else wtf

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FrenchToast [#12]

tenz, zekken and aspas on the same team should be illegal

it would be so over for everyone else wtf

dont put all the baiters in one basket

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Up until last year we have NV/OPTC/NRG vs. LOUD... maybe that's why this year feels a bit bland in Americas. We're missing that big top 2 rivalry

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juugobr_ [#11]

Because when a player tries to bring some fun to this snowflake scene they are immediately fined or the playerbase calls them toxic

valorant : https://x.com/commendyt/status/1688866982702026752?s=46&t=DWfnzchnXKTWF2k6R045jw

COD : https://x.com/intelcdl/status/1814831772191871193?s=46&t=DWfnzchnXKTWF2k6R045jw and https://x.com/intelcdl/status/1814742528152723694?s=46&t=DWfnzchnXKTWF2k6R045jw

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valulrant is a fairy game the fanbase is composed of soyboys

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cloudberry [#14]

Up until last year we have NV/OPTC/NRG vs. LOUD... maybe that's why this year feels a bit bland in Americas. We're missing that big top 2 rivalry

sen vs geng maybe

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Hades_Loves_Rb [#4]

I think Demon1 is an insane player, but stuff like this makes me not want to support him and EG

ik they don't care, but curious to hear what you guys prefer:

• humble players
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• trash talk/ego type players

trash talk is fine, but Demon1 kinda sucks at it

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catNmouse [#17]

sen vs geng maybe

Maybe, but I meant a regional rivalry. Something like EDG vs. FPX, or DRX vs. PRX

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catNmouse [#17]

sen vs geng maybe

SEN is cool and all but its a full team of introverts + Zellsis lol

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Hades_Loves_Rb [#4]

I think Demon1 is an insane player, but stuff like this makes me not want to support him and EG

ik they don't care, but curious to hear what you guys prefer:

• humble players
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• trash talk/ego type players

Can't believe people are still falling for this, legendary

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SEN is cool and all but its a full team of introverts + Zellsis lol

honestly you’re right lol. boostio rivalry with china was kinda cool til they didn’t qualify for champs

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Average_NA_fan [#16]

valulrant is a fairy game the fanbase is composed of soyboys

valarante child game.... look to cartoon grapfix to make kid player happy like children show..

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honestly you’re right lol. boostio rivalry with china was kinda cool til they didn’t qualify for champs

boostio had a rivalry with china? Never heard about this.

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boostio had a rivalry with china? Never heard about this.

not really he just called them shit like he does everyone

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Tryeue2 [#13]

dont put all the baiters in one basket

who does this guy think he is

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sentinels and everyone, they keep clowning my boys, most one sided rivalry ever

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I think it stems from the fact that yes, they are all friends, but I think they are all friendly in case one of them gets dropped. This way you have more opportunities. Players haven't been getting dropped as fast recently but I think the fear is still there.

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TenSenz [#26]

who does this guy think he is

Tryeue1

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Tryeue2 [#29]

Tryeue1

funny joke

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funny joke

thx!

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When boostio speaks, zellsis speaks, demon1 speaks, FNS speaks, everyone immediately starts getting mad at them even though these guys for the most part only shit talk people theyre cool with

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ronaldinhoooooooooooo [#28]

I think it stems from the fact that yes, they are all friends, but I think they are all friendly in case one of them gets dropped. This way you have more opportunities. Players haven't been getting dropped as fast recently but I think the fear is still there.

True, in the case it's up to the best players in the world to start being toxic lol. Then again, most of them (aspas, oxy, zekken) are kind-hearted souls so I don't expect that from them.

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juugobr_ [#11]

Because when a player tries to bring some fun to this snowflake scene they are immediately fined or the playerbase calls them toxic

Wanna try explaining to a corporate sponsor what tea bagging is?

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loud vs optic?

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loud vs optic?

I'm saying right now, not in the past.

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ascention [#7]

I'm not saying we need 100 toxic players - I fully support humble kings like valyn.

But what is up with the complete lack of competitiveness? I'm convinced Riot is micromanaging player interactions.

bro cannot recognize a copypasta

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Average_NA_fan [#16]

valulrant is a fairy game the fanbase is composed of soyboys

people who say "soyboy" unironically are never to be taken seriously, it's the same people who believe Red Pill and Andrew Tate

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people who say "soyboy" unironically are never to be taken seriously, it's the same people who believe Red Pill and Andrew Tate

ok soyboy

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ascention [#7]

I'm not saying we need 100 toxic players - I fully support humble kings like valyn.

But what is up with the complete lack of competitiveness? I'm convinced Riot is micromanaging player interactions.

they leaked that vct is scripted before that mibr vs eg match. they showed that mibr won but the match didn’t start til a day after. players don’t get paid enough to show grammy award winning reactions