People here were talking about how an invitational tournament should not be considered as a Major.
Is this the biggest mickey mouse tournament of all time?
Kxtqqh [#3]madrid and locking were the biggest mickey mouse of all time
for all the people crying about masters madrid not being a mickey mouse,
Sentinels only played 6 games in masters madrid, and fnatic 5, so quite litteraly its the flukiest run ever
when you win your games you tend to go through less elim games
dezzo [#6]lock-in and master madrid*
mickey mouse events
Lock-In was fun, madrid was indeed a mickey, however
Average_NA_fan [#11]lock in was a fluke bcos loud was the best team if they didnt have crowd pressure over them they would've easily closed that icebox
step up your baits
Average_NA_fan [#11]lock in was a fluke bcos loud was the best team if they didnt have crowd pressure over them they would've easily closed that icebox
madrid was a fluke bcos geng was the best team if they didn’t have a lakia with a wrist injury they could’ve easily closed that bind
see how that works?
Average_NA_fan [#11]lock in was a fluke bcos loud was the best team if they didnt have crowd pressure over them they would've easily closed that icebox
Womp womp 3 11
Average_NA_fan [#17]flukenatic got exposed by loud at champions lmao
where was loud at tokyo after winning americas league?
catNmouse [#14]madrid was a fluke bcos geng was the best team if they didn’t have a lakia with a wrist injury they could’ve easily closed that bind
see how that works?
Average_NA_fan [#17]flukenatic got exposed by loud at champions lmao
Womp womp 2 international trophies vs 0 at 2023
Give l0ud failing reverse sweep and beating fnatic dor
waxsly [#20]Womp womp 2 international trophies vs 0 at 2023
Give l0ud failing reverse sweep and beating fnatic dor
2 fluke trophies just to get exposed at champions
Average_NA_fan [#21]2 fluke trophies just to get exposed at champions
Give my pidols l0ud a trophy for exposing fnatic😭😭😭😭😭
waxsly [#22]Give my pidols l0ud a trophy for exposing fnatic😭😭😭😭😭
better than fluke trophies at least they proved in the end they were the real best team
Average_NA_fan [#19]
- sentinels won icebox 6-12
- geng had 2 bans advantage (loud v fnatic no team had ban advantage, and loud actually helped fnatic by banning haven)
bind
nice try, the score was 7-10 in favor of geng and they would’ve taken ascent
Average_NA_fan [#23]better than fluke trophies at least they proved in the end they were the real best team
Womp womp can’t win a 11 3 lead loses to edg at tokyo fails another reverse sweep at champions sure buddy they’re the best team but at choking
waxsly [#25]Womp womp can’t win a 11 3 lead loses to edg at tokyo fails another reverse sweep at champions sure buddy they’re the best team but at choking
less diffed cuckajer every time they faced each other
Average_NA_fan [#26]less diffed cuckajer every time they faced each other
2 1 game at champions alfajer + 1
2 0 game at champions + 2
At lock in + 3
Least delisounal sen fan
Kxtqqh [#3]madrid and locking were the biggest mickey mouse of all time
for all the people crying about masters madrid not being a mickey mouse,
Sentinels only played 6 games in masters madrid, and fnatic 5, so quite litteraly its the flukiest run ever
bro at least both fnc and sen won somthing lol, not your washed org cant even win against koi and giantx lmfao
win somthing then you get the right to discuss other orgs accomplishments lmao
Kxtqqh [#3]madrid and locking were the biggest mickey mouse of all time
for all the people crying about masters madrid not being a mickey mouse,
Sentinels only played 6 games in masters madrid, and fnatic 5, so quite litteraly its the flukiest run ever
In Tokyo Fnatic only played 4 games, so is Tokyo also a Mickey Mouse to you?
You can't call Lock in and Madrid mickey mouse tournies, Lock in had a weird format but Finatic was very dominant and showed there skill in the next masters event aswell, And Madrid was very well played by Sentinels, Having many wins with there new roster in off season tournaments and Winning all or almost all of there matches in Masters was amazing.
Xell_ [#31]You can't call Lock in and Madrid mickey mouse tournies, Lock in had a weird format but Finatic was very dominant and showed there skill in the next masters event aswell, And Madrid was very well played by Sentinels, Having many wins with there new roster in off season tournaments and Winning all or almost all of there matches in Masters was amazing.
TBH, those who call any official tournaments a Mickey Mouse event probably are just salty or baiting
PrinceCharming [#7]Imo 2022 Reykjavík was big in the world of Micky mouse. I region straight up didn't send their top seed and sent 2 subs for their highest performing players.
I mean zeta division got 3rd. That's only possible in a full Micky mouse house major
What region/team did that
Achilles [#29]imo champs 21
coming from an acend fan that takes guts. I hated seeing no double elimination past the group stage
Kxtqqh [#3]madrid and locking were the biggest mickey mouse of all time
for all the people crying about masters madrid not being a mickey mouse,
Sentinels only played 6 games in masters madrid, and fnatic 5, so quite litteraly its the flukiest run ever
? geng played 5 games and almost won the entire thing lmfao if sen won upper bracket they would also have played only 5 games
Soddalele [#33]single elim sucks but atleast it was equal playing field for everyone. if lock in was won by SEN it would have counted as champs.
whatever you try to tell yourself it was the first tourny in franchising and it was won by the best team at the event.
nah, if lock-in was won by SEN, people would call it a Mickey Mouse tournament even more
Shuaaaa [#34]What region/team did that
EMEA's FPX couldn't go because visa issuesd iirc so there was 15 teams, and FNC had 2 substitutes
Kxtqqh [#3]madrid and locking were the biggest mickey mouse of all time
for all the people crying about masters madrid not being a mickey mouse,
Sentinels only played 6 games in masters madrid, and fnatic 5, so quite litteraly its the flukiest run ever
FNC played the same no of games in LOCK IN check facts Bro, dont keep shitting everywhere
waxsly [#25]Womp womp can’t win a 11 3 lead loses to edg at tokyo fails another reverse sweep at champions sure buddy they’re the best team but at choking
11 - 3?
How about a 2 years org have more tropies than you Fraudnatic in 3? 🤣🤣🤣
Ohh noo, they need more time to win a champions 😢
(Loud a 1 year org that haved 3 tier 3 players and winned champions)
Average_NA_fan [#11]lock in was a fluke bcos loud was the best team if they didnt have crowd pressure over them they would've easily closed that icebox
This is the first time i agree with some post of you Avarage_NA.
Was not crowd trought, its just that Loud trowed.
Your point is proved when the other 2 matches we had against they, we winned 2-0.
Prasinos [#41]11 - 3?
How about a 2 years org have more tropies than you Fraudnatic in 3? 🤣🤣🤣
Ohh noo, they need more time to win a champions 😢
(Loud a 1 year org that haved 3 tier 3 players and winned champions)
won* and fyi All the brazillian teams were At the bottom of the table + Fnatic are more consistent than Loud
The trophies were solely won by Aspas, without him they are nothing as we can see.
Average_NA_fan [#11]lock in was a fluke bcos loud was the best team if they didnt have crowd pressure over them they would've easily closed that icebox
Bro what's an crowd pressure. If there was no crowd u would have said Loud had no crowd. Other teams had crowd pressure. Just accept Loud bottled the tournament
Inort [#43]won* and fyi All the brazillian teams were At the bottom of the table + Fnatic are more consistent than Loud
The trophies were solely won by Aspas, without him they are nothing as we can see.
genuinely the worst take i have ever seen on this entire website
Prasinos [#41]11 - 3?
How about a 2 years org have more tropies than you Fraudnatic in 3? 🤣🤣🤣
Ohh noo, they need more time to win a champions 😢
(Loud a 1 year org that haved 3 tier 3 players and winned champions)
What did bro just type
Inort [#43]won* and fyi All the brazillian teams were At the bottom of the table + Fnatic are more consistent than Loud
The trophies were solely won by Aspas, without him they are nothing as we can see.
All i hear is a crybaby.
The trophies were solely won by Aspas
And?? Still more trophies in 2 years than Fnatic in 3.
Fnatic are more consistent than Loud
Absulute not.
In the 2 years we was at ALL internationals events and allways at the top3.
And Fnatic? I tink not, just in 2023.
Prasinos [#47]All i hear is a crybaby.
The trophies were solely won by Aspas
And?? Still more trophies in 2 years than Fnatic in 3.
Fnatic are more consistent than Loud
Absulute not.
In the 2 years we was at ALL internationals events and allways at the top3.
And Fnatic? I tink not, just in 2023.
Bro wtf is this english
waxsly [#48]Bro wtf is this english
Talk about english but do not deny my facts huh?
I do not talk in english i talk in facts.
Monsteiur [#37]nah, if lock-in was won by SEN, people would call it a Mickey Mouse tournament even more
they always wanna tear down the greats
Prasinos [#49]Talk about english but do not deny my facts huh?
I do not talk in english i talk in facts.
Bro I don’t even understand what you are saying learn english and comeback to this thread so we can discuss fucking football people
Inort [#44]Bro what's an crowd pressure. If there was no crowd u would have said Loud had no crowd. Other teams had crowd pressure. Just accept Loud bottled the tournament
alfajer himself said in 2022 that he underperformed at champions bcos he felt under pressure with a crowd rooting for him
waxsly [#51]Bro I don’t even understand what you are saying learn english and comeback to this thread so we can discuss fucking football people
I learn facts.
Want another one? Better be the football people that own you country both in all Sports and economic.
A 300 years country is poor than a 100 years country, you fraud 🤣.
Prasinos [#53]I learn facts.
Want another one? Better be the football people that own you country both in all Sports and economic.A 300 years country is poor than a 100 years country, you fraud 🤣.
Can you just use google translate
Prasinos [#53]I learn facts.
Want another one? Better be the football people that own you country both in all Sports and economic.A 300 years country is poor than a 100 years country, you fraud 🤣.
And you do realize that Brazil was founded at 1822 and Turkish Republic was declared at 1923 bro doesn’t even know his history I’m asking him to learn english my bad
Prasinos [#47]All i hear is a crybaby.
The trophies were solely won by Aspas
And?? Still more trophies in 2 years than Fnatic in 3.
Fnatic are more consistent than Loud
Absulute not.
In the 2 years we was at ALL internationals events and allways at the top3.
And Fnatic? I tink not, just in 2023.
And you do realize that fnatic has more trophies
2024 EMEA Stage 2
🏆 2024 EMEA Stage 1
🏆 2023 Red Bull Home Ground #4
🏆 2023 Masters Tokyo
🏆 2023 LOCK//IN São Paulo
🏆 2022 Superdome
🏆 2022 EMEA Challengers Stage 2
Meanwhile loud
Champs 2022
Americas 2023( went 0 2 after that and lose to frauds edg kekw)
2 Brazilian trophies which shouldn’t even be counted
waxsly [#56]And you do realize that fnatic has more trophies
2024 EMEA Stage 2
🏆 2024 EMEA Stage 1
🏆 2023 Red Bull Home Ground #4
🏆 2023 Masters Tokyo
🏆 2023 LOCK//IN São Paulo
🏆 2022 Superdome
🏆 2022 EMEA Challengers Stage 2
Meanwhile loud
Champs 2022
Americas 2023( went 0 2 after that and lose to frauds edg kekw)
2 Brazilian trophies which shouldn’t even be counted
imagine building a superteam with 5 players from 5 different countries just to get dominated by 4 brazilians
average FREEMEA L
Average_NA_fan [#57]imagine building a superteam with 5 players from 5 different countries just to get dominated by 4 brazilians
average FREEMEA L
When the hell did they dominated fnatic those frauds could have beat them in champions but fnatic had already won when it mattered and won a masters aswell they can get their petty win losing to edg is crazy😹😹😹
waxsly [#55]And you do realize that Brazil was founded at 1822 and Turkish Republic was declared at 1923 bro doesn’t even know his history I’m asking him to learn english my bad
Seen like you cant even google history right.
You REPUBLIC was founded in 1923.
Brazil was INDEPENDET of Portugal in 1822.
You like to act naive? Or you are naive?
waxsly [#58]When the hell did they dominated fnatic those frauds could have beat them in champions but fnatic had already won when it mattered and won a masters aswell they can get their petty win losing to edg is crazy😹😹😹
champions is literally the most important event but flukenatic couldn't keep their fluke run against loud in their top form kekw
waxsly [#56]And you do realize that fnatic has more trophies
2024 EMEA Stage 2
🏆 2024 EMEA Stage 1
🏆 2023 Red Bull Home Ground #4
🏆 2023 Masters Tokyo
🏆 2023 LOCK//IN São Paulo
🏆 2022 Superdome
🏆 2022 EMEA Challengers Stage 2
Meanwhile loud
Champs 2022
Americas 2023( went 0 2 after that and lose to frauds edg kekw)
2 Brazilian trophies which shouldn’t even be counted
Superdome? Serius? A super mickey mause trophie? Loud have superdome too but i do not event tinked about because is a trash trophie.
And you seen to semi illiterate. My point is that you just have more trophies than Loud NOW in 2024.
A 1 trophie diference, to a 4 years org, losing to a 2 years.
Average_NA_fan [#61]champions is literally the most important event but flukenatic couldn't keep their fluke run against loud in their top form kekw
Yeah then got cooked by eg which fnatic 3 0 ed fnatic had played most matches possible and tired whitest loud had 3 months to preapere just to beat fnatic frauds can’t even complete reverse sweep
Average_NA_fan [#61]champions is literally the most important event but flukenatic couldn't keep their fluke run against loud in their top form kekw
I give up Avarege_NA, the skibidi toilet people seen to be blind or just too naive.
waxsly [#63]Yeah then got cooked by eg which fnatic 3 0 ed fnatic had played most matches possible and tired whitest loud had 3 months to preapere just to beat fnatic frauds can’t even complete reverse sweep
u cope too much just accept flukenatic is a fluke
Prasinos [#60]Seen like you cant even google history right.
You REPUBLIC was founded in 1923.
Brazil was INDEPENDET of Portugal in 1822.You like to act naive? Or you are naive?
Bro what does it change you declared independence like even if that’s the case your republic was founded at 1889 which makes your country 34 years older and you said that my country is 300 years old
waxsly [#66]Bro what does it change you declared independence like even if that’s the case your republic was founded at 1889 which makes your country 34 years older and you said that my country is 300 years old
Ok i give up, you are naive.
Turkish empire? Nah, my country spawned at the map just after the republic.
Brazil after indepent was a empire too yk? Still 100 years.
But you winned, happy? I give up.
Prasinos [#62]Superdome? Serius? A super mickey mause trophie? Loud have superdome too but i do not event tinked about because is a trash trophie.
And you seen to semi illiterate. My point is that you just have more trophies than Loud NOW in 2024.
A 1 trophie diference, to a 4 years org, losing to a 2 years.
Don’t count superfdome still better and fnatic didn’t even win anything at 2021 and loud players were playing competitively in 2021 aswell just not together and when you started this you said loud had more trophies now you realized you’re wrong so you run like that fuckin fraud coward
Prasinos [#67]Ok i give up, you are naive.
Turkish empire? Nah, my country spawned at the map just after the republic.
Brazil after indepent was a empire too yk? Still 100 years.
But you winned, happy? I give up.
I still have hard time understanding whatever the hell you are typing but if you give up its a win you just accepted loud are frauds and fnatic is better goodbye
waxsly [#69]I still have hard time understanding whatever the hell you are typing but if you give up its a win you just accepted loud are frauds and fnatic is better goodbye
I cannot change you mind, so i give up.
You are the type of guy who deny everthing to win a argument.
So yeah, i give up skibidi toilet guy.
Average_NA_fan [#65]u cope too much just accept flukenatic is a fluke
That’s the sign of Im wrong couldn’t find anything to type
waxsly [#71]That’s the sign of Im wrong couldn’t find anything to type
i mean u said loud lost to EG which only makes things worse for flukenatic, bcos it means even tokyo was a fluke kekw
Average_NA_fan [#72]i mean u said loud lost to EG which only makes things worse for flukenatic, bcos it means even tokyo was a fluke kekw
No that makes eg bad loud worse fnatic best you don’t have a fucking brain obviously because you used it to buy hamburgers you fucking obese people
waxsly [#73]No that makes eg bad loud worse fnatic best you don’t have a fucking brain obviously because you used it to buy hamburgers you fucking obese people
blud u lost TWICE to loud on the same event
ur fluke ass team got hard exposed there kekw
Average_NA_fan [#74]blud u lost TWICE to loud on the same event
ur fluke ass team got hard exposed there kekw
Okay I’m tired of trying to explain a point and you just bringing up the champions wins so I’m just gonna leave this thread and never comeback I’m geniunely tired of you
Average_NA_fan [#74]blud u lost TWICE to loud on the same event
ur fluke ass team got hard exposed there kekw
Cant belive it, Avarage_NA winned a discussion against the skibidt toilet wall.
Average_NA_fan [#72]i mean u said loud lost to EG which only makes things worse for flukenatic, bcos it means even tokyo was a fluke kekw
Tokyo was a fluke.
Lock In the biggest mickey mouse tournament of all time
waxsly [#27]2 1 game at champions alfajer + 1
2 0 game at champions + 2
At lock in + 3
Least delisounal sen fan
now show us their ratings
Yuh_aye [#79]now show us their ratings
Bro how is less ratings he got against other teams mean he diffed him and even if that was the case alfa was 1.09 at lock in and less was 1.15 and at champs alfa was 1.17 less was 1.16 there was no big difference I’m not even counting tokyo because that would be embarrassing for less
waxsly [#5]Tbh only people are saying lock in is Mickey Mouse is sen glazers because they got fnatic first round and got dominated I liked lock in format because no one gets a second chance and there is a lot of pressure
Tf, half of the people I see that say Lock in was a Mickey Mouse are not SEN glazers. Look at #2 post
AK3 [#28]bro at least both fnc and sen won somthing lol, not your washed org cant even win against koi and giantx lmfao
win somthing then you get the right to discuss other orgs accomplishments lmao
flairism isnt cool bro.
AltonBu02 [#77]no one counts lock in as a major and it shouldn't be treated as such
I DO!!!! and if I didnt I wouldnt count Master rejk or Masters madrid
BarbaraCult [#83]I DO!!!! and if I didnt I wouldnt count Master rejk or Masters madrid
why not? those are normal masters events vs lock in is an invitational single elim showmatch
waxsly [#80]Bro how is less ratings he got against other teams mean he diffed him and even if that was the case alfa was 1.09 at lock in and less was 1.15 and at champs alfa was 1.17 less was 1.16 there was no big difference I’m not even counting tokyo because that would be embarrassing for less
he got against other teams
The ratings in their head to head, genius.
https://www.vlr.gg/167393/loud-vs-fnatic-champions-tour-2023-lock-in-s-o-paulo-gf 1.20 vs 0.97
https://www.vlr.gg/248270/fnatic-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-ubqf 1.23 vs 1.06
https://www.vlr.gg/248282/fnatic-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-lr3 1.14 vs 0.80
Less 3-0, big senti gap every time.
BulkyLettuce [#85]why not? those are normal masters events vs lock in is an invitational single elim showmatch
because masters madrid had very fraudulant teams there and it was only 8 teams. A very poor form of prx, edg, fpx. Karmine, loud sen did literally nothing after that event. Heretics had a sub. GenG is the only team to look as good as they did in madrid. And rejk should be obvious M3C had a terrible schedule with a terrible chance to qualify, FPX the number 1 seed couldnt go, Fnatic had like 2 subs. I mean considering fpx won the next major. Rejk just looked incredibly fluked
BarbaraCult [#87]because masters madrid had very fraudulant teams there and it was only 8 teams. A very poor form of prx, edg, fpx. Karmine, loud sen did literally nothing after that event. Heretics had a sub. GenG is the only team to look as good as they did in madrid. And rejk should be obvious M3C had a terrible schedule with a terrible chance to qualify, FPX the number 1 seed couldnt go, Fnatic had like 2 subs. I mean considering fpx won the next major. Rejk just looked incredibly fluked
I think you are missing the point. It was double elim and teams had to qualify for Madrid and Reykjavik just like every other masters and champions. For lock in you didnt even have to qualify and it was single elim which is different from every other masters and champions. This is why they are different and should be treated as such
champions > masters > lock in
senhater101 [#8]Lock-In was fun, madrid was indeed a mickey, however
If Madrid was a Mickey Mouse then Shanghai was unrated
Yuh_aye [#86]he got against other teams
The ratings in their head to head, genius.
https://www.vlr.gg/167393/loud-vs-fnatic-champions-tour-2023-lock-in-s-o-paulo-gf 1.20 vs 0.97
https://www.vlr.gg/248270/fnatic-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-ubqf 1.23 vs 1.06
https://www.vlr.gg/248282/fnatic-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-lr3 1.14 vs 0.80Less 3-0, big senti gap every time.
Bro that’s against the entire fnatic squad they’re not playing 1v1 wtf
1mBor3d [#89]If Madrid was a Mickey Mouse then Shanghai was unrated
Neither tournaments are flukes, but Shanghai's format was def less "mickey" than Madrid's
BarbaraCult [#87]because masters madrid had very fraudulant teams there and it was only 8 teams. A very poor form of prx, edg, fpx. Karmine, loud sen did literally nothing after that event. Heretics had a sub. GenG is the only team to look as good as they did in madrid. And rejk should be obvious M3C had a terrible schedule with a terrible chance to qualify, FPX the number 1 seed couldnt go, Fnatic had like 2 subs. I mean considering fpx won the next major. Rejk just looked incredibly fluked
Champions > Masters 2 > Masters 1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lock in
Miss me with that single elim bs
waxsly [#90]Bro that’s against the entire fnatic squad they’re not playing 1v1 wtf
....exactly?
Less and Alfajer were in the same lobby three times.
Less was by far the better sentinel in the lobby all three times.
Senti Diff.
Yuh_aye [#93]....exactly?
Less and Alfajer were in the same lobby three times.
Less was by far the better sentinel in the lobby all three times.
Senti Diff.
I aint trying to convince you buddy believe whatever the hell you want I’m done trying to explain anything to delusional na fans Alfa owns less
waxsly [#94]I aint trying to convince you buddy believe whatever the hell you want I’m done trying to explain anything to delusional na fans Alfa owns less
the only place he owns him is in your delusions buddy.
In the real world he actually got owned by Less 3 times.
Yuh_aye [#95]the only place he owns him is in your delusions buddy.
In the real world he actually got owned by Less 3 times.
Unfortunately for you there is no trophy for getting a better kd then the other teams sentinel
waxsly [#96]Unfortunately for you there is no trophy for getting a better kd then the other teams sentinel
Less is why Alfajer can't call himself a world champion.
Less doesn't have that problem tho.
https://dotesports.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/less-valorant-settings-2.jpg
Yuh_aye [#97]Less is why Alfajer can't call himself a world champion.
Less doesn't have that problem tho.
https://dotesports.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/less-valorant-settings-2.jpg
Okey don’t care