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#1
Azzelastia

People here were talking about how an invitational tournament should not be considered as a Major.

Is this the biggest mickey mouse tournament of all time?

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catNmouse
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Single elimination, 32 teams. However the matchs were fun to watch

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Kxtqqh
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madrid and locking were the biggest mickey mouse of all time
for all the people crying about masters madrid not being a mickey mouse,
Sentinels only played 6 games in masters madrid, and fnatic 5, so quite litteraly its the flukiest run ever

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Kxtqqh [#3]

madrid and locking were the biggest mickey mouse of all time
for all the people crying about masters madrid not being a mickey mouse,
Sentinels only played 6 games in masters madrid, and fnatic 5, so quite litteraly its the flukiest run ever

when you win your games you tend to go through less elim games

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waxsly
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Tbh only people are saying lock in is Mickey Mouse is sen glazers because they got fnatic first round and got dominated I liked lock in format because no one gets a second chance and there is a lot of pressure

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dezzo
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lock-in and master madrid*
mickey mouse events

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PrinceCharming
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Imo 2022 Reykjavík was big in the world of Micky mouse. I region straight up didn't send their top seed and sent 2 subs for their highest performing players.

I mean zeta division got 3rd. That's only possible in a full Micky mouse house major

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dezzo [#6]

lock-in and master madrid*
mickey mouse events

Lock-In was fun, madrid was indeed a mickey, however

#9
Kxtqqh
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senhater101 [#8]

Lock-In was fun, madrid was indeed a mickey, however

yeah lockin was fun asf

#10
dapada
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2022 reykjavik the biggest mickey mouse

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Average_NA_fan
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lock in was a fluke bcos loud was the best team if they didnt have crowd pressure over them they would've easily closed that icebox

#12
ButterflyEffect23
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Average_NA_fan [#11]

lock in was a fluke bcos loud was the best team if they didnt have crowd pressure over them they would've easily closed that icebox

step up your baits

#13
trikecycle
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Fnatic won the next tourney is near flawless fashion, they were the best team and deserved to win lock in. Not a fluke and not Mickey Mouse

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catNmouse
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Average_NA_fan [#11]

lock in was a fluke bcos loud was the best team if they didnt have crowd pressure over them they would've easily closed that icebox

madrid was a fluke bcos geng was the best team if they didn’t have a lakia with a wrist injury they could’ve easily closed that bind

see how that works?

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waxsly
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Average_NA_fan [#11]

lock in was a fluke bcos loud was the best team if they didnt have crowd pressure over them they would've easily closed that icebox

Womp womp 3 11

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lockin was a great tournament and the final results matched the eye test. madrid is the biggest fluke tournament of all time, bum ass sentinels won and im not sure if they have a game after that

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Average_NA_fan
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waxsly [#15]

Womp womp 3 11

flukenatic got exposed by loud at champions lmao

#18
catNmouse
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Average_NA_fan [#17]

flukenatic got exposed by loud at champions lmao

where was loud at tokyo after winning americas league?

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catNmouse [#14]

madrid was a fluke bcos geng was the best team if they didn’t have a lakia with a wrist injury they could’ve easily closed that bind

see how that works?

  • sentinels won icebox 6-12
  • geng had 2 bans advantage (loud v fnatic no team had ban advantage, and loud actually helped fnatic by banning haven)
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waxsly
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Average_NA_fan [#17]

flukenatic got exposed by loud at champions lmao

Womp womp 2 international trophies vs 0 at 2023
Give l0ud failing reverse sweep and beating fnatic dor

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Average_NA_fan
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waxsly [#20]

Womp womp 2 international trophies vs 0 at 2023
Give l0ud failing reverse sweep and beating fnatic dor

2 fluke trophies just to get exposed at champions

#22
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Average_NA_fan [#21]

2 fluke trophies just to get exposed at champions

Give my pidols l0ud a trophy for exposing fnatic😭😭😭😭😭

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Average_NA_fan
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waxsly [#22]

Give my pidols l0ud a trophy for exposing fnatic😭😭😭😭😭

better than fluke trophies at least they proved in the end they were the real best team

#24
catNmouse
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Average_NA_fan [#19]
  • sentinels won icebox 6-12
  • geng had 2 bans advantage (loud v fnatic no team had ban advantage, and loud actually helped fnatic by banning haven)

bind

nice try, the score was 7-10 in favor of geng and they would’ve taken ascent

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Average_NA_fan [#23]

better than fluke trophies at least they proved in the end they were the real best team

Womp womp can’t win a 11 3 lead loses to edg at tokyo fails another reverse sweep at champions sure buddy they’re the best team but at choking

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waxsly [#25]

Womp womp can’t win a 11 3 lead loses to edg at tokyo fails another reverse sweep at champions sure buddy they’re the best team but at choking

less diffed cuckajer every time they faced each other

#27
waxsly
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Average_NA_fan [#26]

less diffed cuckajer every time they faced each other

2 1 game at champions alfajer + 1
2 0 game at champions + 2
At lock in + 3
Least delisounal sen fan

#28
AK3
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Kxtqqh [#3]

madrid and locking were the biggest mickey mouse of all time
for all the people crying about masters madrid not being a mickey mouse,
Sentinels only played 6 games in masters madrid, and fnatic 5, so quite litteraly its the flukiest run ever

bro at least both fnc and sen won somthing lol, not your washed org cant even win against koi and giantx lmfao

win somthing then you get the right to discuss other orgs accomplishments lmao

#29
Achilles
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imo champs 21

#30
Conceit
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Kxtqqh [#3]

madrid and locking were the biggest mickey mouse of all time
for all the people crying about masters madrid not being a mickey mouse,
Sentinels only played 6 games in masters madrid, and fnatic 5, so quite litteraly its the flukiest run ever

In Tokyo Fnatic only played 4 games, so is Tokyo also a Mickey Mouse to you?

#31
Xell_
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You can't call Lock in and Madrid mickey mouse tournies, Lock in had a weird format but Finatic was very dominant and showed there skill in the next masters event aswell, And Madrid was very well played by Sentinels, Having many wins with there new roster in off season tournaments and Winning all or almost all of there matches in Masters was amazing.

#32
Monsteiur
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Xell_ [#31]

You can't call Lock in and Madrid mickey mouse tournies, Lock in had a weird format but Finatic was very dominant and showed there skill in the next masters event aswell, And Madrid was very well played by Sentinels, Having many wins with there new roster in off season tournaments and Winning all or almost all of there matches in Masters was amazing.

TBH, those who call any official tournaments a Mickey Mouse event probably are just salty or baiting

#33
Soddalele
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single elim sucks but atleast it was equal playing field for everyone. if lock in was won by SEN it would have counted as champs.

whatever you try to tell yourself it was the first tourny in franchising and it was won by the best team at the event.

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Shuaaaa
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PrinceCharming [#7]

Imo 2022 Reykjavík was big in the world of Micky mouse. I region straight up didn't send their top seed and sent 2 subs for their highest performing players.

I mean zeta division got 3rd. That's only possible in a full Micky mouse house major

What region/team did that

#35
Penqu1N
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Achilles [#29]

imo champs 21

coming from an acend fan that takes guts. I hated seeing no double elimination past the group stage

#36
Tryeue2
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Kxtqqh [#3]

madrid and locking were the biggest mickey mouse of all time
for all the people crying about masters madrid not being a mickey mouse,
Sentinels only played 6 games in masters madrid, and fnatic 5, so quite litteraly its the flukiest run ever

? geng played 5 games and almost won the entire thing lmfao if sen won upper bracket they would also have played only 5 games

#37
Monsteiur
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Soddalele [#33]

single elim sucks but atleast it was equal playing field for everyone. if lock in was won by SEN it would have counted as champs.

whatever you try to tell yourself it was the first tourny in franchising and it was won by the best team at the event.

nah, if lock-in was won by SEN, people would call it a Mickey Mouse tournament even more

#38
KClaw
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I don't think that tournament is Mickey mouse where u play less matches means that u gotta win or it makes it hard for u to further

#39
MissesHisShots
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Shuaaaa [#34]

What region/team did that

EMEA's FPX couldn't go because visa issuesd iirc so there was 15 teams, and FNC had 2 substitutes

#40
Inort
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Kxtqqh [#3]

madrid and locking were the biggest mickey mouse of all time
for all the people crying about masters madrid not being a mickey mouse,
Sentinels only played 6 games in masters madrid, and fnatic 5, so quite litteraly its the flukiest run ever

FNC played the same no of games in LOCK IN check facts Bro, dont keep shitting everywhere

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Prasinos
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waxsly [#25]

Womp womp can’t win a 11 3 lead loses to edg at tokyo fails another reverse sweep at champions sure buddy they’re the best team but at choking

11 - 3?

How about a 2 years org have more tropies than you Fraudnatic in 3? 🤣🤣🤣

Ohh noo, they need more time to win a champions 😢

(Loud a 1 year org that haved 3 tier 3 players and winned champions)

#42
Prasinos
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Average_NA_fan [#11]

lock in was a fluke bcos loud was the best team if they didnt have crowd pressure over them they would've easily closed that icebox

This is the first time i agree with some post of you Avarage_NA.
Was not crowd trought, its just that Loud trowed.
Your point is proved when the other 2 matches we had against they, we winned 2-0.

#43
Inort
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Prasinos [#41]

11 - 3?

How about a 2 years org have more tropies than you Fraudnatic in 3? 🤣🤣🤣

Ohh noo, they need more time to win a champions 😢

(Loud a 1 year org that haved 3 tier 3 players and winned champions)

won* and fyi All the brazillian teams were At the bottom of the table + Fnatic are more consistent than Loud
The trophies were solely won by Aspas, without him they are nothing as we can see.

#44
Inort
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Average_NA_fan [#11]

lock in was a fluke bcos loud was the best team if they didnt have crowd pressure over them they would've easily closed that icebox

Bro what's an crowd pressure. If there was no crowd u would have said Loud had no crowd. Other teams had crowd pressure. Just accept Loud bottled the tournament

#45
sideshowsbaldhead
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Inort [#43]

won* and fyi All the brazillian teams were At the bottom of the table + Fnatic are more consistent than Loud
The trophies were solely won by Aspas, without him they are nothing as we can see.

genuinely the worst take i have ever seen on this entire website

#46
waxsly
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Prasinos [#41]

11 - 3?

How about a 2 years org have more tropies than you Fraudnatic in 3? 🤣🤣🤣

Ohh noo, they need more time to win a champions 😢

(Loud a 1 year org that haved 3 tier 3 players and winned champions)

What did bro just type

#47
Prasinos
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Inort [#43]

won* and fyi All the brazillian teams were At the bottom of the table + Fnatic are more consistent than Loud
The trophies were solely won by Aspas, without him they are nothing as we can see.

All i hear is a crybaby.

The trophies were solely won by Aspas

And?? Still more trophies in 2 years than Fnatic in 3.

Fnatic are more consistent than Loud

Absulute not.
In the 2 years we was at ALL internationals events and allways at the top3.
And Fnatic? I tink not, just in 2023.

#48
waxsly
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Prasinos [#47]

All i hear is a crybaby.

The trophies were solely won by Aspas

And?? Still more trophies in 2 years than Fnatic in 3.

Fnatic are more consistent than Loud

Absulute not.
In the 2 years we was at ALL internationals events and allways at the top3.
And Fnatic? I tink not, just in 2023.

Bro wtf is this english

#49
Prasinos
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waxsly [#48]

Bro wtf is this english

Talk about english but do not deny my facts huh?

I do not talk in english i talk in facts.

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Soddalele
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Monsteiur [#37]

nah, if lock-in was won by SEN, people would call it a Mickey Mouse tournament even more

they always wanna tear down the greats

#51
waxsly
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Prasinos [#49]

Talk about english but do not deny my facts huh?

I do not talk in english i talk in facts.

Bro I don’t even understand what you are saying learn english and comeback to this thread so we can discuss fucking football people

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Average_NA_fan
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Inort [#44]

Bro what's an crowd pressure. If there was no crowd u would have said Loud had no crowd. Other teams had crowd pressure. Just accept Loud bottled the tournament

alfajer himself said in 2022 that he underperformed at champions bcos he felt under pressure with a crowd rooting for him

#53
Prasinos
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waxsly [#51]

Bro I don’t even understand what you are saying learn english and comeback to this thread so we can discuss fucking football people

I learn facts.
Want another one? Better be the football people that own you country both in all Sports and economic.

A 300 years country is poor than a 100 years country, you fraud 🤣.

#54
waxsly
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Prasinos [#53]

I learn facts.
Want another one? Better be the football people that own you country both in all Sports and economic.

A 300 years country is poor than a 100 years country, you fraud 🤣.

Can you just use google translate

#55
waxsly
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Prasinos [#53]

I learn facts.
Want another one? Better be the football people that own you country both in all Sports and economic.

A 300 years country is poor than a 100 years country, you fraud 🤣.

And you do realize that Brazil was founded at 1822 and Turkish Republic was declared at 1923 bro doesn’t even know his history I’m asking him to learn english my bad

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waxsly
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Prasinos [#47]

All i hear is a crybaby.

The trophies were solely won by Aspas

And?? Still more trophies in 2 years than Fnatic in 3.

Fnatic are more consistent than Loud

Absulute not.
In the 2 years we was at ALL internationals events and allways at the top3.
And Fnatic? I tink not, just in 2023.

And you do realize that fnatic has more trophies
2024 EMEA Stage 2
🏆 2024 EMEA Stage 1
🏆 2023 Red Bull Home Ground #4
🏆 2023 Masters Tokyo
🏆 2023 LOCK//IN São Paulo
🏆 2022 Superdome
🏆 2022 EMEA Challengers Stage 2
Meanwhile loud
Champs 2022
Americas 2023( went 0 2 after that and lose to frauds edg kekw)
2 Brazilian trophies which shouldn’t even be counted

#57
Average_NA_fan
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waxsly [#56]

And you do realize that fnatic has more trophies
2024 EMEA Stage 2
🏆 2024 EMEA Stage 1
🏆 2023 Red Bull Home Ground #4
🏆 2023 Masters Tokyo
🏆 2023 LOCK//IN São Paulo
🏆 2022 Superdome
🏆 2022 EMEA Challengers Stage 2
Meanwhile loud
Champs 2022
Americas 2023( went 0 2 after that and lose to frauds edg kekw)
2 Brazilian trophies which shouldn’t even be counted

imagine building a superteam with 5 players from 5 different countries just to get dominated by 4 brazilians

average FREEMEA L

#58
waxsly
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Average_NA_fan [#57]

imagine building a superteam with 5 players from 5 different countries just to get dominated by 4 brazilians

average FREEMEA L

When the hell did they dominated fnatic those frauds could have beat them in champions but fnatic had already won when it mattered and won a masters aswell they can get their petty win losing to edg is crazy😹😹😹

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WolfStark17
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I think its because literally every team qualified that people were saying it didn't really count as a major. The format alone was definitely the hardest to win but as far as counting being there as an accomplishment i don't think it counts.

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Prasinos
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waxsly [#55]

And you do realize that Brazil was founded at 1822 and Turkish Republic was declared at 1923 bro doesn’t even know his history I’m asking him to learn english my bad

Seen like you cant even google history right.
You REPUBLIC was founded in 1923.
Brazil was INDEPENDET of Portugal in 1822.

You like to act naive? Or you are naive?

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Average_NA_fan
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waxsly [#58]

When the hell did they dominated fnatic those frauds could have beat them in champions but fnatic had already won when it mattered and won a masters aswell they can get their petty win losing to edg is crazy😹😹😹

champions is literally the most important event but flukenatic couldn't keep their fluke run against loud in their top form kekw

#62
Prasinos
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waxsly [#56]

And you do realize that fnatic has more trophies
2024 EMEA Stage 2
🏆 2024 EMEA Stage 1
🏆 2023 Red Bull Home Ground #4
🏆 2023 Masters Tokyo
🏆 2023 LOCK//IN São Paulo
🏆 2022 Superdome
🏆 2022 EMEA Challengers Stage 2
Meanwhile loud
Champs 2022
Americas 2023( went 0 2 after that and lose to frauds edg kekw)
2 Brazilian trophies which shouldn’t even be counted

Superdome? Serius? A super mickey mause trophie? Loud have superdome too but i do not event tinked about because is a trash trophie.

And you seen to semi illiterate. My point is that you just have more trophies than Loud NOW in 2024.
A 1 trophie diference, to a 4 years org, losing to a 2 years.

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waxsly
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Average_NA_fan [#61]

champions is literally the most important event but flukenatic couldn't keep their fluke run against loud in their top form kekw

Yeah then got cooked by eg which fnatic 3 0 ed fnatic had played most matches possible and tired whitest loud had 3 months to preapere just to beat fnatic frauds can’t even complete reverse sweep

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Prasinos
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Average_NA_fan [#61]

champions is literally the most important event but flukenatic couldn't keep their fluke run against loud in their top form kekw

I give up Avarege_NA, the skibidi toilet people seen to be blind or just too naive.

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Average_NA_fan
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waxsly [#63]

Yeah then got cooked by eg which fnatic 3 0 ed fnatic had played most matches possible and tired whitest loud had 3 months to preapere just to beat fnatic frauds can’t even complete reverse sweep

u cope too much just accept flukenatic is a fluke

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waxsly
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Prasinos [#60]

Seen like you cant even google history right.
You REPUBLIC was founded in 1923.
Brazil was INDEPENDET of Portugal in 1822.

You like to act naive? Or you are naive?

Bro what does it change you declared independence like even if that’s the case your republic was founded at 1889 which makes your country 34 years older and you said that my country is 300 years old

#67
Prasinos
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waxsly [#66]

Bro what does it change you declared independence like even if that’s the case your republic was founded at 1889 which makes your country 34 years older and you said that my country is 300 years old

Ok i give up, you are naive.

Turkish empire? Nah, my country spawned at the map just after the republic.

Brazil after indepent was a empire too yk? Still 100 years.

But you winned, happy? I give up.

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waxsly
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Prasinos [#62]

Superdome? Serius? A super mickey mause trophie? Loud have superdome too but i do not event tinked about because is a trash trophie.

And you seen to semi illiterate. My point is that you just have more trophies than Loud NOW in 2024.
A 1 trophie diference, to a 4 years org, losing to a 2 years.

Don’t count superfdome still better and fnatic didn’t even win anything at 2021 and loud players were playing competitively in 2021 aswell just not together and when you started this you said loud had more trophies now you realized you’re wrong so you run like that fuckin fraud coward

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waxsly
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Prasinos [#67]

Ok i give up, you are naive.

Turkish empire? Nah, my country spawned at the map just after the republic.

Brazil after indepent was a empire too yk? Still 100 years.

But you winned, happy? I give up.

I still have hard time understanding whatever the hell you are typing but if you give up its a win you just accepted loud are frauds and fnatic is better goodbye

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Prasinos
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waxsly [#69]

I still have hard time understanding whatever the hell you are typing but if you give up its a win you just accepted loud are frauds and fnatic is better goodbye

I cannot change you mind, so i give up.
You are the type of guy who deny everthing to win a argument.
So yeah, i give up skibidi toilet guy.

#71
waxsly
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Average_NA_fan [#65]

u cope too much just accept flukenatic is a fluke

That’s the sign of Im wrong couldn’t find anything to type

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Average_NA_fan
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waxsly [#71]

That’s the sign of Im wrong couldn’t find anything to type

i mean u said loud lost to EG which only makes things worse for flukenatic, bcos it means even tokyo was a fluke kekw

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waxsly
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Average_NA_fan [#72]

i mean u said loud lost to EG which only makes things worse for flukenatic, bcos it means even tokyo was a fluke kekw

No that makes eg bad loud worse fnatic best you don’t have a fucking brain obviously because you used it to buy hamburgers you fucking obese people

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Average_NA_fan
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waxsly [#73]

No that makes eg bad loud worse fnatic best you don’t have a fucking brain obviously because you used it to buy hamburgers you fucking obese people

blud u lost TWICE to loud on the same event

ur fluke ass team got hard exposed there kekw

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waxsly
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Average_NA_fan [#74]

blud u lost TWICE to loud on the same event

ur fluke ass team got hard exposed there kekw

Okay I’m tired of trying to explain a point and you just bringing up the champions wins so I’m just gonna leave this thread and never comeback I’m geniunely tired of you

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Prasinos
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Average_NA_fan [#74]

blud u lost TWICE to loud on the same event

ur fluke ass team got hard exposed there kekw

Cant belive it, Avarage_NA winned a discussion against the skibidt toilet wall.

#77
AltonBu02
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no one counts lock in as a major and it shouldn't be treated as such

#78
Azzelastia
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Average_NA_fan [#72]

i mean u said loud lost to EG which only makes things worse for flukenatic, bcos it means even tokyo was a fluke kekw

Tokyo was a fluke.
Lock In the biggest mickey mouse tournament of all time

#79
Yuh_aye
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waxsly [#27]

2 1 game at champions alfajer + 1
2 0 game at champions + 2
At lock in + 3
Least delisounal sen fan

now show us their ratings

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Yuh_aye [#79]

now show us their ratings

Bro how is less ratings he got against other teams mean he diffed him and even if that was the case alfa was 1.09 at lock in and less was 1.15 and at champs alfa was 1.17 less was 1.16 there was no big difference I’m not even counting tokyo because that would be embarrassing for less

#81
babi
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waxsly [#5]

Tbh only people are saying lock in is Mickey Mouse is sen glazers because they got fnatic first round and got dominated I liked lock in format because no one gets a second chance and there is a lot of pressure

Tf, half of the people I see that say Lock in was a Mickey Mouse are not SEN glazers. Look at #2 post

#82
kanyefan4238173
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AK3 [#28]

bro at least both fnc and sen won somthing lol, not your washed org cant even win against koi and giantx lmfao

win somthing then you get the right to discuss other orgs accomplishments lmao

flairism isnt cool bro.

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BarbaraCult
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AltonBu02 [#77]

no one counts lock in as a major and it shouldn't be treated as such

I DO!!!! and if I didnt I wouldnt count Master rejk or Masters madrid

#84
catNmouse
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AK3 [#28]

bro at least both fnc and sen won somthing lol, not your washed org cant even win against koi and giantx lmfao

win somthing then you get the right to discuss other orgs accomplishments lmao

TL won against GX and KOI tho what?

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BarbaraCult [#83]

I DO!!!! and if I didnt I wouldnt count Master rejk or Masters madrid

why not? those are normal masters events vs lock in is an invitational single elim showmatch

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waxsly [#80]

Bro how is less ratings he got against other teams mean he diffed him and even if that was the case alfa was 1.09 at lock in and less was 1.15 and at champs alfa was 1.17 less was 1.16 there was no big difference I’m not even counting tokyo because that would be embarrassing for less

he got against other teams

The ratings in their head to head, genius.

https://www.vlr.gg/167393/loud-vs-fnatic-champions-tour-2023-lock-in-s-o-paulo-gf 1.20 vs 0.97
https://www.vlr.gg/248270/fnatic-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-ubqf 1.23 vs 1.06
https://www.vlr.gg/248282/fnatic-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-lr3 1.14 vs 0.80

Less 3-0, big senti gap every time.

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BarbaraCult
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BulkyLettuce [#85]

why not? those are normal masters events vs lock in is an invitational single elim showmatch

because masters madrid had very fraudulant teams there and it was only 8 teams. A very poor form of prx, edg, fpx. Karmine, loud sen did literally nothing after that event. Heretics had a sub. GenG is the only team to look as good as they did in madrid. And rejk should be obvious M3C had a terrible schedule with a terrible chance to qualify, FPX the number 1 seed couldnt go, Fnatic had like 2 subs. I mean considering fpx won the next major. Rejk just looked incredibly fluked

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BarbaraCult [#87]

because masters madrid had very fraudulant teams there and it was only 8 teams. A very poor form of prx, edg, fpx. Karmine, loud sen did literally nothing after that event. Heretics had a sub. GenG is the only team to look as good as they did in madrid. And rejk should be obvious M3C had a terrible schedule with a terrible chance to qualify, FPX the number 1 seed couldnt go, Fnatic had like 2 subs. I mean considering fpx won the next major. Rejk just looked incredibly fluked

I think you are missing the point. It was double elim and teams had to qualify for Madrid and Reykjavik just like every other masters and champions. For lock in you didnt even have to qualify and it was single elim which is different from every other masters and champions. This is why they are different and should be treated as such

champions > masters > lock in

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1mBor3d
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senhater101 [#8]

Lock-In was fun, madrid was indeed a mickey, however

If Madrid was a Mickey Mouse then Shanghai was unrated

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waxsly
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Yuh_aye [#86]

he got against other teams

The ratings in their head to head, genius.

https://www.vlr.gg/167393/loud-vs-fnatic-champions-tour-2023-lock-in-s-o-paulo-gf 1.20 vs 0.97
https://www.vlr.gg/248270/fnatic-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-ubqf 1.23 vs 1.06
https://www.vlr.gg/248282/fnatic-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-lr3 1.14 vs 0.80

Less 3-0, big senti gap every time.

Bro that’s against the entire fnatic squad they’re not playing 1v1 wtf

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1mBor3d [#89]

If Madrid was a Mickey Mouse then Shanghai was unrated

Neither tournaments are flukes, but Shanghai's format was def less "mickey" than Madrid's

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AltonBu02
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BarbaraCult [#87]

because masters madrid had very fraudulant teams there and it was only 8 teams. A very poor form of prx, edg, fpx. Karmine, loud sen did literally nothing after that event. Heretics had a sub. GenG is the only team to look as good as they did in madrid. And rejk should be obvious M3C had a terrible schedule with a terrible chance to qualify, FPX the number 1 seed couldnt go, Fnatic had like 2 subs. I mean considering fpx won the next major. Rejk just looked incredibly fluked

Champions > Masters 2 > Masters 1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lock in

Miss me with that single elim bs

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Yuh_aye
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waxsly [#90]

Bro that’s against the entire fnatic squad they’re not playing 1v1 wtf

....exactly?

Less and Alfajer were in the same lobby three times.
Less was by far the better sentinel in the lobby all three times.
Senti Diff.

#94
waxsly
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Yuh_aye [#93]

....exactly?

Less and Alfajer were in the same lobby three times.
Less was by far the better sentinel in the lobby all three times.
Senti Diff.

I aint trying to convince you buddy believe whatever the hell you want I’m done trying to explain anything to delusional na fans Alfa owns less

#95
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waxsly [#94]

I aint trying to convince you buddy believe whatever the hell you want I’m done trying to explain anything to delusional na fans Alfa owns less

the only place he owns him is in your delusions buddy.

In the real world he actually got owned by Less 3 times.

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Yuh_aye [#95]

the only place he owns him is in your delusions buddy.

In the real world he actually got owned by Less 3 times.

Unfortunately for you there is no trophy for getting a better kd then the other teams sentinel

#97
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waxsly [#96]

Unfortunately for you there is no trophy for getting a better kd then the other teams sentinel

Less is why Alfajer can't call himself a world champion.

Less doesn't have that problem tho.

https://dotesports.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/less-valorant-settings-2.jpg

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Yuh_aye [#97]

Less is why Alfajer can't call himself a world champion.

Less doesn't have that problem tho.

https://dotesports.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/less-valorant-settings-2.jpg

Okey don’t care

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