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Im saying it: FNC should probably stick with Hiro

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Congo1

Leo is obviously a top 5 player in the World at least.

But FNC looks amazing with Hiro and in my opinion its all about roles.

Alfajer doesnt have to play senti anymore which he isnt perfectly suited for. So often he overagresses and gets killed which messes up their setups badly when the role is all about patience and rattyness. Nats for example is worse mechanically but a much better sentinel. He has it in his blood. Both the lurks and being super hard to kill on site and getting good trap kills etc.

So what is fnc doing rn that works so well for FNC. Well, hiro is playing senti most of the time allowing alfa to play iso, maybe raze if derke plays an yoru or the like. Also flash initiators like breach and kayo fit alfa much better than senti. His agression and restlessness doesnt cost you here. Its probably even an advantage.

So my opinion is Leo and Alfajer maybe shouldnt play in the same team longterm. At least in the current meta.

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number_1_Ego_fan
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W take

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catNmouse
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hiro is playing for champs; they just can’t give up on a player like leo. we’ll see next year though

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number_1_Ego_fan
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catNmouse [#3]

hiro is playing for champs; they just can’t give up on a player like leo. we’ll see next year though

a 6 man roster maybe?

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DeluluGavin
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i need leo and sayf reunion someday

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Congo1
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catNmouse [#3]

hiro is playing for champs; they just can’t give up on a player like leo. we’ll see next year though

I fully understand. You could end up in a sayf liquid scenario which is terrible.

But they did that due to differing visions of the game and arguments. Not due to role issues. Plus sayf was so much better than every other player there they should have kicked everyone else and rebuilt around him.

With fnc its not the same. You gonna kick alfajer? I mean you can but that hurts a lot too. And do you have a replacement of that quality available that would fit and make the roster work as well as the current version? Idk man.
You kicking chronicle your highest rated and most exoerienced player to make alfa a full flex? Can alfa really play every role well? Can he be a second smoker? Idk there either.

Its a tough Situation. Im happy i dont have to make that decision

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Congo1
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DeluluGavin [#5]

i need leo and sayf reunion someday

Leo to vitality would feed generations.

Sayf duel
Trexy flex
Leo ini
Cender igl smoke
New guy

Imagine that

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GrimmjowJaegerjaquez
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DeluluGavin [#5]

i need leo and sayf reunion someday

Leo comes back into the FNC roster and Sayf(I don't know if he'll continue to play) replaces derke next year. But seriously it would be a dream if both join the same team next year.

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laeDLaer
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-boaster (2nd assistant coach)
+chronicle/leo igl

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Congo1
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GrimmjowJaegerjaquez [#8]

Leo comes back into the FNC roster and Sayf(I don't know if he'll continue to play) replaces derke next year. But seriously it would be a dream if both join the same team next year.

Vitakity is not letting sayf go. If anything leo goes to vitality

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K4ziuHa
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ik you didnt listen to post game talk.

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catNmouse
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Congo1 [#6]

I fully understand. You could end up in a sayf liquid scenario which is terrible.

But they did that due to differing visions of the game and arguments. Not due to role issues. Plus sayf was so much better than every other player there they should have kicked everyone else and rebuilt around him.

With fnc its not the same. You gonna kick alfajer? I mean you can but that hurts a lot too. And do you have a replacement of that quality available that would fit and make the roster work as well as the current version? Idk man.
You kicking chronicle your highest rated and most exoerienced player to make alfa a full flex? Can alfa really play every role well? Can he be a second smoker? Idk there either.

Its a tough Situation. Im happy i dont have to make that decision

leo’s contract expires next year so there’s still a long way to go, it’s hard to get rid of hiro because he allows alfajer to play other agents that aren’t cypher and he seems to like it a lot

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turkey
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If they win champs they HAVE to stick with this exact roster it would be crazy not to, but who knows we’ve seen like every champs winner switch up the rosters

-chronicle +leo if they don’t win

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I mean they could just put Chron on full time sentinel/Viper instead of Alfajer and you've fixed the problem
Alfa secondary duelist/initator

Having both Leo and Hiro feels like an unbeatable team

Chronicle on his old role has been killing it tho.
Goated player

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turkey [#13]

If they win champs they HAVE to stick with this exact roster it would be crazy not to, but who knows we’ve seen like every champs winner switch up the rosters

-chronicle +leo if they don’t win

no way chronicle go, even if they don't win

#16
vooooooooooooooooooooooop
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number_1_Ego_fan [#2]

W take

Leo better

#17
Mortadelo
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I don’t think we’re being fair with Leo tho. FNC has proven that they can be better with Leo than with Hiro.

Obviously they look better now with hiro, but idk to what point it’s a fresh start and the whole team taking that to step up

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gold2peak
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if they do end up winning champs and keeping hiro i think vitality would throw a massive bag at leo

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K2215
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leo is not going anywhere and hiro can play as 6th man

#20
rtg9000
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i agree purely because I am fiending for VIT Leo

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Congo1
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Mortadelo [#17]

I don’t think we’re being fair with Leo tho. FNC has proven that they can be better with Leo than with Hiro.

Obviously they look better now with hiro, but idk to what point it’s a fresh start and the whole team taking that to step up

Last year it seemed like they were just too far ahead individually. No one could compete with their player skill level.

This year people caught up. You need optimal synergy, strats, comps, everything.

Its not like last years fnc was free of issues

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Congo1
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K2215 [#19]

leo is not going anywhere and hiro can play as 6th man

Hiro is not staying as a 6 th man lol

#23
Gutwi
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Boaster said theyre training leo for igl, so ts gonna be
Leo
Derke
Chronicle
Hiro
Alfajer

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Gutwi [#23]

Boaster said theyre training leo for igl, so ts gonna be
Leo
Derke
Chronicle
Hiro
Alfajer

and boaster as coach would be fire

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Congo1 [#21]

Last year it seemed like they were just too far ahead individually. No one could compete with their player skill level.

This year people caught up. You need optimal synergy, strats, comps, everything.

Its not like last years fnc was free of issues

I think last year they had both things, FNC has been creating meta for years, with their buys, comps etc.

They obviously weren’t free of issues but neither is this FNC. I see something very similar to patitek and miniboo, I think the answer is more on the rest of the team than on them

#26
sp0rtsman
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HELL NAH JIGSAW

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K4ziuHa
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jonny05 [#24]

and boaster as coach would be fire

they said he would start on a lower position

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jixk
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vooooooooooooooooooooooop [#16]

Leo better

no one disagree is 100% the better player hiro fits better on fnc

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GrimmjowJaegerjaquez
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Congo1 [#10]

Vitakity is not letting sayf go. If anything leo goes to vitality

I mean yes, but who knows if he'll play next or not.

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Wronghand
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Better idea - Teach one of these fuckers to IGL and release boaster.

wronghand and his management would like to express their immense respect for Jake "Boaster" Howlett and his achievement in Valorant. Mr. Wronghand would rather not see a player of Hiro or Leo's caliber be dropped, when a young talent could be given a great environment to learn how to in-game lead under minds as good as Boaster and Mini

#31
SilentCypher
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Run it back with the Sayf-Leo-Trexx trio on Vitality

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Wronghand [#30]

Better idea - Teach one of these fuckers to IGL and release boaster.

wronghand and his management would like to express their immense respect for Jake "Boaster" Howlett and his achievement in Valorant. Mr. Wronghand would rather not see a player of Hiro or Leo's caliber be dropped, when a young talent could be given a great environment to learn how to in-game lead under minds as good as Boaster and Mini

noo, boaster needs to stay at least as an analyst/secondary coach.

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