Why is criticizing sacy such a frowned upon thing? I watch these games and he clearly makes the most mistakes and is the most inconsistent. But then when you criticize him a flock of people will just jump on you as if you have committed a sin! They would say non-factual and untrue things with so much confidence. I have been a SEN fan for a long time, since the beginning so generally I want all of them to do well including sacy. But, is it wrong to say what i can see with my own eyes and have an strong opinion about it?
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Been seeing all of this Sacy stuff on vlr, and really, I just feel like everyone is missing the main point. I saw one of his streams a while back, I think he was duoing with Zekken? Might've been with someone else, but I remember watching him play Sova on icebox when suddenly and without warning, my mind went completely blank, and the only thought in my head was, "Could I fit Sacy's head inside my ass?"
Maybe it was just the comely sheen off his dome, but something about that shining bespectacled orb gave the deep, inescapable feeling that this world would be better off with that head firmly inserted into my rectum. Sexuality be damned this; this was a spiritual impulse! Like Abraham before the bush; like Moses on Mount Sinai; like Whoopi Goldberg holding the script for Sister Act 2, God has given me my task.
I called Gustavo, thinking this might be an unreasonable proposition, his candid response however, intrigued me: "yeah," he said, "but can we do it in the porch area of a local Starbucks?" I asked him why, and he told me that six other people had already asked to do this, and he had done those at Starbucks, and if he brought in a seventh he would get a free salted caramel latte. I asked if he could get me one too, but he said they're just for him.
heavensentsaint [#3]zellsis is right there, not fragging or hyping up his team what’s the point
zellsis has bad games and good games but his decision making is not generally a problem. Sacy either gets caught early or baits his team, it feels like he doesn't know what to do unless it's a 1v3 clutch.
pkSqueegee [#5]Been seeing all of this Sacy stuff on vlr, and really, I just feel like everyone is missing the main point. I saw one of his streams a while back, I think he was duoing with Zekken? Might've been with someone else, but I remember watching him play Sova on icebox when suddenly and without warning, my mind went completely blank, and the only thought in my head was, "Could I fit Sacy's head inside my ass?"
Maybe it was just the comely sheen off his dome, but something about that shining bespectacled orb gave the deep, inescapable feeling that this world would be better off with that head firmly inserted into my rectum. Sexuality be damned this; this was a spiritual impulse! Like Abraham before the bush; like Moses on Mount Sinai; like Whoopi Goldberg holding the script for Sister Act 2, God has given me my task.
I called Gustavo, thinking this might be an unreasonable proposition, his candid response however, intrigued me: "yeah," he said, "but can we do it in the porch area of a local Starbucks?" I asked him why, and he told me that six other people had already asked to do this, and he had done those at Starbucks, and if he brought in a seventh he would get a free salted caramel latte. I asked if he could get me one too, but he said they're just for him.
Makes sense
heavensentsaint [#3]zellsis is right there, not fragging or hyping up his team what’s the point
?? He's been fragging. He has better stats than both JohnQT and Sacy this split
moatz [#8]?? He's been fragging. He has better stats than both JohnQT and Sacy this split
he literally bot fragged against 100t while sacy and johnqt atleast have their health/mental excuse, zellsis has no excuse
pkSqueegee [#5]Been seeing all of this Sacy stuff on vlr, and really, I just feel like everyone is missing the main point. I saw one of his streams a while back, I think he was duoing with Zekken? Might've been with someone else, but I remember watching him play Sova on icebox when suddenly and without warning, my mind went completely blank, and the only thought in my head was, "Could I fit Sacy's head inside my ass?"
Maybe it was just the comely sheen off his dome, but something about that shining bespectacled orb gave the deep, inescapable feeling that this world would be better off with that head firmly inserted into my rectum. Sexuality be damned this; this was a spiritual impulse! Like Abraham before the bush; like Moses on Mount Sinai; like Whoopi Goldberg holding the script for Sister Act 2, God has given me my task.
I called Gustavo, thinking this might be an unreasonable proposition, his candid response however, intrigued me: "yeah," he said, "but can we do it in the porch area of a local Starbucks?" I asked him why, and he told me that six other people had already asked to do this, and he had done those at Starbucks, and if he brought in a seventh he would get a free salted caramel latte. I asked if he could get me one too, but he said they're just for him.
i actually thought this was about to be a good explanation
fun_at_the_waterslide [#12]zekken/tenz/zellsis have a rough patch - 🥺🥺🥺🥺 Oh no! my darling babies! The world is so cruel 🥺🥺🥺🥺
Sacy has a rough patch - 😡😠get this shitty bronzillian out of here, his career has never amounted to anything besides a world fucking championship, paycheck stealer!!!! 😡😡😡😡😡
Problem is sacy's always on a rough patch tbf
It's not that he's untouchable its that SEN fans are retards and don't know what they want. You guys give up on your players way too easily. I mean the team won a master's and has like a 95% chance to make Champs. He isn't the top fragger or the flashy ranked demon duelist but he plays his role.
Outside the server, he's known for holding his team accountable and being more serious (which is actually what caused him and Less to have beef because he was so demanding.) For a team that dicks around a lot and is more clout-heavy, you need a personality like that to keep you grounded. He is by far the weakest link, I'll agree with that for sure. But it's not like the team hasn't been getting results this year, even if the past month or two have been underwhelming.
fun_at_the_waterslide [#12]zekken/tenz/zellsis have a rough patch - 🥺🥺🥺🥺 Oh no! my darling babies! The world is so cruel 🥺🥺🥺🥺
Sacy has a rough patch - 😡😠get this shitty bronzillian out of here, his career has never amounted to anything besides a world fucking championship, paycheck stealer!!!! 😡😡😡😡😡
it's insane that people are hating on sacy
Monsteiur [#15]it's insane that people are hating on sacy
This is what I was talking about. Stating the obvious and criticism isn't 'hating'. If my sova dies first in 5 rounds in a single defense half on haven, imma complain about it.
reremus [#14]It's not that he's untouchable its that SEN fans are retards and don't know what they want. You guys give up on your players way too easily. I mean the team won a master's and has like a 95% chance to make Champs. He isn't the top fragger or the flashy ranked demon duelist but he plays his role.
Outside the server, he's known for holding his team accountable and being more serious (which is actually what caused him and Less to have beef because he was so demanding.) For a team that dicks around a lot and is more clout-heavy, you need a personality like that to keep you grounded. He is by far the weakest link, I'll agree with that for sure. But it's not like the team hasn't been getting results this year, even if the past month or two have been underwhelming.
SEN is one of the orgs that makes the least amount of changes, except that patch with syyko and has the most supportive fanbase. What you are saying is just not true, however changes are just part of the game and is an absolute necessity at times. You can just hide your head in the sand and pretend like nothing is wrong.
heavensentsaint [#9]he literally bot fragged against 100t while sacy and johnqt atleast have their health/mental excuse, zellsis has no excuse
Don't look at stats just watch the game. If you are losing, everyone's stat looks bad when the team is at disadvantageous situations and trying to overcompensate. But check how sacy makes mistakes and whiffs even in the stable state of most rounds.
SaltyMcNulty [#18]Don't look at stats just watch the game. If you are losing, everyone's stat looks bad when the team is at disadvantageous situations and trying to overcompensate. But check how sacy makes mistakes and whiffs even in the stable state of most rounds.
i watched the games
i saw tenz and zekken getting 2-3ks and the team being unable to capitalize off it in ascent lol
literally nobody even bought up stats, all i said is it’s okay if johnqt and sacy weren’t able to play their best because of personal issues, it’s on zellsis who failed to show up alongside tenz and zekken
SaltyMcNulty [#17]SEN is one of the orgs that makes the least amount of changes, except that patch with syyko and has the most supportive fanbase. What you are saying is just not true, however changes are just part of the game and is an absolute necessity at times. You can just hide your head in the sand and pretend like nothing is wrong.
Being more popular does not equate to more support. I literally see a fucking SEN fix thread on here after every game they lose. Obviously, VLR isn't the determining factor but since SEN is so big, they also have the most braindead fans. Again, I'm not sure why he's getting so much hate. Do you expect the team to win every event in a calendar year to judge them as successful?
They have the results. They are 26-8 in their matches for the whole year. IMO, 1-2 event wins or 1 event win and a deep run is a successful year for any team. You're just reactionary.
heavensentsaint [#19]i watched the games
i saw tenz and zekken getting 2-3ks and the team being unable to capitalize off it in ascent lol
literally nobody even bought up stats, all i said is it’s okay if johnqt and sacy weren’t able to play their best because of personal issues, it’s on zellsis who failed to show up alongside tenz and zekken
Who is to blame for those two 3k rounds on ascent? One where sacy died in a 2v3 situation to boostio in mid who was 5-15 in the game btw, the other where he and Zekken were last 2 alive in a 2v2 and both died without getting a single kill/trade.
reremus [#20]Being more popular does not equate to more support. I literally see a fucking SEN fix thread on here after every game they lose. Obviously, VLR isn't the determining factor but since SEN is so big, they also have the most braindead fans. Again, I'm not sure why he's getting so much hate. Do you expect the team to win every event in a calendar year to judge them as successful?
They have the results. They are 26-8 in their matches for the whole year. IMO, 1-2 event wins or 1 event win and a deep run is a successful year for any team. You're just reactionary.
absolute cookery
SaltyMcNulty [#23]Who is to blame for those two 3k rounds on ascent? One where sacy died in a 2v3 situation to boostio in mid who was 5-15 in the game btw, the other where he and Zekken were last 2 alive in a 2v2 and both died without getting a single kill/trade.
i don’t know why you’re blaming sacy for underperforming for going thru personal shit and not the guy who’s just underperforming 4 fun
if i type it out like this, it literally doesn’t make sense
being a bigger sacy hater than d0rt is crazyyyy
Aayan [#24]absolute cookery
Bro needs to take off the SEN flair if he's going to behave like this towards his team. "Most supportive fans" and then just shits on Sacy lmfao.
reremus [#20]Being more popular does not equate to more support. I literally see a fucking SEN fix thread on here after every game they lose. Obviously, VLR isn't the determining factor but since SEN is so big, they also have the most braindead fans. Again, I'm not sure why he's getting so much hate. Do you expect the team to win every event in a calendar year to judge them as successful?
They have the results. They are 26-8 in their matches for the whole year. IMO, 1-2 event wins or 1 event win and a deep run is a successful year for any team. You're just reactionary.
most of them are not from sen fans. I almost never call for roster changes but sacy has been underperforming for the past 2 years! May be it's the team or the coach that can't accommodate him, idk but I just say what I see on my screen bro
SaltyMcNulty [#16]This is what I was talking about. Stating the obvious and criticism isn't 'hating'. If my sova dies first in 5 rounds in a single defense half on haven, imma complain about it.
No you are not
SaltyMcNulty [#28]most of them are not from sen fans. I almost never call for roster changes but sacy has been underperforming for the past 2 years! May be it's the team or the coach that can't accommodate him, idk but I just say what I see on my screen bro
Please take that flair off
SaltyMcNulty [#28]most of them are not from sen fans. I almost never call for roster changes but sacy has been underperforming for the past 2 years! May be it's the team or the coach that can't accommodate him, idk but I just say what I see on my screen bro
the team has been shit for two years, what do you want him to do haha. And I agree with you that he hasn't been his best this year and is arguably their weakest link, but if the results are there... who cares?
reremus [#20]Being more popular does not equate to more support. I literally see a fucking SEN fix thread on here after every game they lose. Obviously, VLR isn't the determining factor but since SEN is so big, they also have the most braindead fans. Again, I'm not sure why he's getting so much hate. Do you expect the team to win every event in a calendar year to judge them as successful?
They have the results. They are 26-8 in their matches for the whole year. IMO, 1-2 event wins or 1 event win and a deep run is a successful year for any team. You're just reactionary.
Most of em hate sen due to that dumb fan base.
froggy_lol [#30]Please take that flair off
Shut up. i have supported SEN through thick and thin longer than you have been on this website. If you have to call names for me having a valid opinion then you have already lost. You would rather see SEN lose than your favorite player get any criticism. You are the one that needs to drop the flair.
reremus [#31]the team has been shit for two years, what do you want him to do haha. And I agree with you that he hasn't been his best this year and is arguably their weakest link, but if the results are there... who cares?
He was even worse last year expect that game against LOUD. What are you on about? I watch every single SEN game if my memory serves me right. Even sideshow was going to make video about how bad Sacy was but then he didn't do it because how he got backlash for that tenz video.
SaltyMcNulty [#34]Shut up. i have supported SEN through thick and thin longer than you have been on this website. If you have to call names for me having a valid opinion then you have already lost. You would rather see SEN lose than your favorite player get any criticism. You are the one that needs to drop the flair.
so you've supported SEN through thick and thin, and now want changes after they finally started making events, and actually have a competitive season?
SaltyMcNulty [#35]He was even worse last year expect that game against LOUD. What are you on about? I watch every single SEN game if my memory serves me right. Even sideshow was going to make video about how bad Sacy was but then he didn't do it because how he got backlash for that tenz video.
again, you keep dodging the one thing I've said consistently in all my replies. They have good results, so why is it an issue? They're about to make champs and have won a masters this year...
reremus [#36]so you've supported SEN through thick and thin, and now want changes after they finally started making events, and actually have a competitive season?
SEN has had many issues over the years and they couldn't solve them at once. Right at this moment I don't feel they have many problems. They have a good IGL, a good support player in zellsis and tenz and a superb duelist in Zekken. If Sacy was performing or someone else in his position who can perform then I legit think they can be the best team itw, hands down. I consistent initiator player like trent, riens or eeiu will solve 80% of their problem imo. Sacy is too disjointed from the team in most fights and round deciding actions.
reremus [#37]again, you keep dodging the one thing I've said consistently in all my replies. They have good results, so why is it an issue? They're about to make champs and have won a masters this year...
Have you ever thought that may be that isn't good enough and that result was achieved DESPITE sacy playing really bad which makes me believe that this team without him can reach even bigger heights with more consistency?
i swear sacy could blink incorrectly and there would be hordes for you either swearing your lives to him or calling for his head
sen just isn’t at championship caliber anymore. people have figured them out and it will take more than just replacing him for a rookie than can shoot back to actually make this a better roster. their madrid form is long gone, and although they still have a chance to find it again at champs, it’s not entirely sacy’s fault
replacing sacy for someone like verno would only make a minimal difference in the end. the game plan is the problem
SaltyMcNulty [#16]This is what I was talking about. Stating the obvious and criticism isn't 'hating'. If my sova dies first in 5 rounds in a single defense half on haven, imma complain about it.
brother is hating on sacy
shrike- [#41]i swear sacy could blink incorrectly and there would be hordes for you either swearing your lives to him or calling for his head
sen just isn’t at championship caliber anymore. people have figured them out and it will take more than just replacing him for a rookie than can shoot back to actually make this a better roster. their madrid form is long gone, and although they still have a chance to find it again at champs, it’s not entirely sacy’s fault
replacing sacy for someone like verno would only make a minimal difference in the end. the game plan is the problem
An NRG fan that isn’t hating on SEN? But fr though, sen is not in form and probably won’t do much damage at champs (still hope they can fix their mistakes and play to their strength)
Monsteiur [#44]An NRG fan that isn’t hating on SEN? But fr though, sen is not in form and probably won’t do much damage at champs (still hope they can fix their mistakes and play to their strength)
it’s just funny watching people dogpile on sacy when the problem is more than just him lol
leo could’ve subbed in for him and they still would’ve lost to g2 and 100t. yeah sacy has been mid recently and getting someone like verno/narrate in place of him would be an improvement, but it’s nuts how people on this site go absolute batshit crazy over one player LMAOOO
Answers [#49]His hand or head?
I saw one of his streams a while back, I think he was duoing with Zekken? Might've been with someone else, but I remember watching him play Sova on icebox when suddenly and without warning, my mind went completely blank, and the only thought in my head was, "Could I fit Sacy's head inside my ass?"
Maybe it was just the comely sheen off his dome, but something about that shining bespectacled orb gave the deep, inescapable feeling that this world would be better off with that head firmly inserted into my rectum. Sexuality be damned this; this was a spiritual impulse! Like Abraham before the bush; like Moses on Mount Sinai; like Whoopi Goldberg holding the script for Sister Act 2, God has given me my task.
I called Gustavo, thinking this might be an unreasonable proposition, his candid response however, intrigued me: "yeah," he said, "but can we do it in the porch area of a local Starbucks?" I asked him why, and he told me that six other people had already asked to do this, and he had done those at Starbucks, and if he brought in a seventh he would get a free salted caramel latte. I asked if he could get me one too, but he said they're just for him.
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