That shit is ass bro
Ik.riot wants that ad money but please have single elim format for champs playoffs 🙏
BulkyLettuce [#2]so no flukes like lock in happen ever again
in double elim you can actually see who the best team is, not whos the most lucky
Fluked so hard they won the next tournament while only dropping 1 map!
laeDLaer [#3]Fluked so hard they won the next tournament while only dropping 1 map!
fluked so hard the next year where there isnt single elim and didnt even win a single international game the whole year
BulkyLettuce [#4]fluked so hard the next year where there isnt single elim and didnt even win a single international game the whole year
Played 2 games in international unlucky. Maybe if riot held more events idk just maybe
laeDLaer [#6]Played 2 games in international unlucky. Maybe if riot held more events idk just maybe
GE has the same amount of International game wins as FNC this year, are you not embarrassed?
BulkyLettuce [#4]fluked so hard the next year where there isnt single elim and didnt even win a single international game the whole year
???
You do know the meta in this game is constantly changing
BulkyLettuce [#8]GE has the same amount of International game wins as FNC this year, are you not embarrassed?
Fnc have 2 maps internationally. Only 2 games played. Btw only 2 pacific teams have won an international game this year, while 3 emea teams have won an international game this year
sentinelmain377 [#10]Fnc have 2 maps internationally. Only 2 games played. Btw only 2 pacific teams have won an international game this year, while 3 emea teams have won an international game this year
reread what I said I think you misunderstood
International game wins
GE has the same amount of International game wins as FNC this year, are you not embarrassed?
sentinelmain377 [#10]Fnc have 2 maps internationally. Only 2 games played. Btw only 2 pacific teams have won an international game this year, while 3 emea teams have won an international game this year
Fnatic were so close to beating GEN.G in Shanghai too
they just couldn't contain t3xture's Jett on offensive side Breeze
BulkyLettuce [#11]reread what I said I think you misunderstood
International game wins
GE has the same amount of International game wins as FNC this year, are you not embarrassed?
GE has0 maps
BulkyLettuce [#8]GE has the same amount of International game wins as FNC this year, are you not embarrassed?
GE has the same amount of international trophies as PRX, are you not embarrassed?
idkmanwth [#16]GE has the same amount of international trophies as PRX, are you not embarrassed?
we have 2024 seoul champs, what champs does fnc have?
Cu55Ku55_______ [#14]It's kind of boring and anti-climactic in my opinion
Literally the opposite??? Single elim semi final vs double elim where the loser will keep playing?
BulkyLettuce [#17]we have 2024 seoul champs, what champs does fnc have?
ge has better chances to win champs 2024 than prx
BulkyLettuce [#4]fluked so hard the next year where there isnt single elim and didnt even win a single international game the whole year
bro you do realize that metas change and the team can get counter stratted right. this is not CS where the metas barely change. this is valo bro. youll never have an astralis or a CSGO FNC in valo. get over it. if a team is able to comeback and beat you again then your just bad.
plus FNCs run in 2023 is still the greatest run in valo history and the only team to beat them was loud. they destroyed your PRX and even EG.
GenG are on track to beat 2023 FNCs run though. so lets see.
sentinelmain377 [#20]Are u sped 🤣
International game wins
not maps, im talking about wins where you win the game
I like it because it’s better for the overall placements, let’s say one team meets one of the strongest team in the event and got eliminated in a single-elim format, they don’t get the chance to play with other teams from another group so you can’t technically say that they are inferior to the others.
So its better to have another chance to prove themselves.
At the end of the day, if they are champion material, they will make it thru all the way.
Aayan [#27]imo international playoffs should be single elim, the time for double elim is in groups and the regular season playoffs, makes it more entertaining but thats just me
Facts
laeDLaer [#5]Yep single elim is best. I never see people in cs crying about single elim for every tournament but Valorant fans lost their mind when they saw lock in playoffs and you see them now crying about Apac ascension 😂 like chill if you’re the better team you will win. Losers don’t deserve second chance…
The problem with single elim for qualification is that you never find the truely best teams. Bc if 2 teams qualify and the two best Teams play eachother in semi finals there is no chance they qualify. Many for example considert NAVI ane heretics in the first spit one of the best teams but they played eachouther in single elim so one was already out.
Zer0Bomber [#29]The problem with single elim for qualification is that you never find the truely best teams. Bc if 2 teams qualify and the two best Teams play eachother in semi finals there is no chance they qualify. Many for example considert NAVI ane heretics in the first spit one of the best teams but they played eachouther in single elim so one was already out.
I just want single elim for International tournament playoffs. I don’t mind double elim in regionals but yeah they should keep it consistent, they shouldn’t have the first 2 games single elim. Either make the whole playoffs single elim or double.
laeDLaer [#5]Yep single elim is best. I never see people in cs crying about single elim for every tournament but Valorant fans lost their mind when they saw lock in playoffs and you see them now crying about Apac ascension 😂 like chill if you’re the better team you will win. Losers don’t deserve second chance…
is this cs?
BulkyLettuce [#2]so no flukes like lock in happen ever again
in double elim you can actually see who the best team is, not whos the most lucky
If Prx had won it would've been a fluke yes
BulkyLettuce [#23]International game wins
not maps, im talking about wins where you win the game
FUT TH and KC have all won games
BulkyLettuce [#4]fluked so hard the next year where there isnt single elim and didnt even win a single international game the whole year
you definitely have more than 4 brain cells
Less likely for Cinderella teams to win
No, Cinderella runs are unaffected, mickey mouse runs are just impossible. For example Zeta at Reykjavic and EG at Tokyo were both cinderella runs (Double Elim) .
In single Elim, we had Karmine Corp (like the worst t1 team ever, by far) look promising vs LOUD and Furia be competitive vs Fnatic. These are mickey-mouse performances that double elim (and a qualifier) would have prevented from affecting the result, should those games have gone the other way.
Upper bracket games feel less suspenseful (Because even if they lose they’re not out)
If you don't understand that literally every match is extremely important, then I don't know what to tell you.
For many matches in the lower bracket, one team has more time to prepare than the other
Extremely marginal issue, far outweighed by the benefits of double elim.
So many games takes away the gravity of each one
Erm... No it doesnt??? Literally just more to watch?? It's not like the stakes/importance of one match is decreased by another equally important match being scheduled 30 mins later.
laeDLaer [#24]I swear I’ve never seen a valorant game that got me more hyped and nervous than Team Spirit vs Faze at cs major. Quarterfinal btw
Nrg x Loud at the greatest tournament ever, Lock In
laeDLaer [#5]Yep single elim is best. I never see people in cs crying about single elim for every tournament but Valorant fans lost their mind when they saw lock in playoffs and you see them now crying about Apac ascension 😂 like chill if you’re the better team you will win. Losers don’t deserve second chance…
cs has like 10 s tier tournaments each year, valorant has 3 😭 majors have 24 teams with 3 loss swiss stage, kato and cologne have 24 teams as well.. when val has that then we can have single elim
laeDLaer [#18]Literally the opposite??? Single elim semi final vs double elim where the loser will keep playing?
bro dismissed someone's opinion
Yuh_aye [#43]Less likely for Cinderella teams to win
No, Cinderella runs are unaffected, mickey mouse runs are just impossible. For example Zeta at Reykjavic and EG at Tokyo were both cinderella runs (Double Elim) .
In single Elim, we had Karmine Corp (like the worst t1 team ever, by far) look promising vs LOUD and Furia be competitive vs Fnatic. These are mickey-mouse performances that double elim (and a qualifier) would have prevented from affecting the result, should those games have gone the other way.Upper bracket games feel less suspenseful (Because even if they lose they’re not out)
If you don't understand that literally every match is extremely important, then I don't know what to tell you.
For many matches in the lower bracket, one team has more time to prepare than the other
Extremely marginal issue, far outweighed by the benefits of double elim.
So many games takes away the gravity of each one
Erm... No it doesnt??? Literally just more to watch?? It's not like the stakes/importance of one match is decreased by another equally important match being scheduled 30 mins later.
W
double elim guarantees better ranking... top 8, top 6, top 4, 3, 2, champion instead of single elims top 8, top 4, 2, 1 so better reward distribution
also, it's 8 teams only, why not prolong the tournament, istg you guys complain for too few matches and too many matches at the same time, PICK YOUR SIDES!
Yuh_aye [#43]Less likely for Cinderella teams to win
No, Cinderella runs are unaffected, mickey mouse runs are just impossible. For example Zeta at Reykjavic and EG at Tokyo were both cinderella runs (Double Elim) .
In single Elim, we had Karmine Corp (like the worst t1 team ever, by far) look promising vs LOUD and Furia be competitive vs Fnatic. These are mickey-mouse performances that double elim (and a qualifier) would have prevented from affecting the result, should those games have gone the other way.Upper bracket games feel less suspenseful (Because even if they lose they’re not out)
If you don't understand that literally every match is extremely important, then I don't know what to tell you.
For many matches in the lower bracket, one team has more time to prepare than the other
Extremely marginal issue, far outweighed by the benefits of double elim.
So many games takes away the gravity of each one
Erm... No it doesnt??? Literally just more to watch?? It's not like the stakes/importance of one match is decreased by another equally important match being scheduled 30 mins later.
Couldn’t have said it better myself
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