Been seeing media pushing this kangkang best player from 2024 narrative and EDG best team WAY to much, its actually absurd how well GenG played the entire season and texture playing extremely well just for kangkang to play one good tournment and be called the best duelist of 2024, even platchat has fell victim to recency bias in their awards. I dont know if its EDG specifically being pushed because they want KangKang to be the next Faker but I just HATE this narrative.
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recency bias is actually absurd right now
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typing like t3xture did not slap everyone in pacific when GENG won Kickoff and stage 2 while coming in 2nd in stage 1. if 5 Grand finals in a row (winning 1 masters and 2 regionals) while being the best player in GENG can't get you a 1st place, surely crashing out in both masters and only doing well in champs should not warrant a solid 1st.
Good individual performances often leads to good team performances. t3xture was great in all of GENG's finals and was even the only one shooting in Champs. You can't just take away t3xture's achievement just because GENG's team performance was good. In your words, meiy should be in top 5 since he was individually great in a shit team. kk was good, but t3xture being good the entire season cannot be overlooked. He was vital in that 'team performance' which is why i added GENG and since the op mentioned domestic performances of EDG.
how does this matter, I am not talking about who is better, I am talking about how texture and even meteor outpeformed kk throughout the year, it the statement "Texture had his peak roster for three events, kangkang for one" means nothing to this argument because kangkang did nothing internationally until champs, whether or not he had his "peak roster"
But the talk here is about individual performance. Also you can't deny geng were getting a lot overrated even after just the Madrid run. You are kr teams fan and I love drx so I understand why you may think geng wasn't getting as overrated as edg. Every person at one point tends to hate anything that gets really popular or hyped.
It was the same for me with some popular anime and games once. also you are faker and t1 fan so you should be very experienced with such awards results.
"Only played good one tournament"
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1921/champions-tour-2024-masters-madrid
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1999/champions-tour-2024-masters-shanghai
Need to remind you that they only won one series/ 3 maps in all these tournaments combined
Kangkang had 240+ ACS in shanghai even though EDG flopped and got railed by Heretics
https://www.vlr.gg/312797/edward-gaming-vs-gen-g-champions-tour-2024-masters-madrid-swiss-stage-r2/?game=162359&tab=overview
401 ACS when it wasnt even a close match
I get what your trying to say but what ur saying is basically recency bias, EDG played bad in tourneys doesnt mean that KangKang only played good in champs you dumb baffoon
Champs is 16 International teams turney, the most prestigious, stacked, difficult turney. The difference is huge compared to measly 8 teams masters 1 turney. In plat chat we have Neilzinho winning best coach for winning 0 trophies (0 trophies wins). KangKang literally have to beat the all time bo5 record to beat TH and wins EDG champs trophy. If KangKang played average at champs then I'd agree texture deserve it more, but KangKang was heavy standout WHEN IT MATTERS. Sentinels never make Shanghai and GenG underperform at champs, u can't neglect those. EDG rapid improvement under muggle head coach and s1mon addition makes up great storyline of what it means to improve and step up. KangKang wasn't even bad at VCT China, put some value on that too.
I dont know if its EDG specifically being pushed because they want KangKang to be the next Faker
what's wrong with that? Requirement is to be a national person, EMEA too continent based, and NA's hope of next faker is gone with TenZ retirement. KangKang still only 20 and with him in EDG it would be a good long term future for valorant, China viewership will carry champs anyway, why not make china player to be next faker. A strong EDG is good for valorant.
Agreed, HSK coaching during the india off season turney wasn't great. And when GenG sign solo, immediate rapid improvement turned texture into absolute beast after all the time they spent together in damwon. Before start of 2024 season in PRX video they already tease that GenG gonna be a crazy strong team heading into 2024. VCT pacific video alecks and many pacific coaches already highlight how good of a coach solo is. Now that peri joins GenG coaching staff, GenG will be more solid after their champs exit. Peri is solo teammate during nuturn Masters 2021 Reykjavik.
I saw ardiis clip about non fraudulent coaches in VCT, he says he can't speak about solo cause he doesn't know much about him. This probably why solo didn't win the award since not many western panellists know much about solo and just voted neilzinho 1 and solo 2 instead. Being more international with western people wins the award, thats how you win vote. How else Jawgemo wins the award? The chat stream was voting on s1mon's clutch instead.
u clearly didn't watch Chichoo stage 1 and stage 2 VCT CN then. People only say Meteor > Chichoo because they don't watch VCT CN EDG performance. Champs is 16 international teams, madrid 8 and Shanghai 12. This is why GenG dropped out, cause champs more difficult than Masters. If GenG at the very least made playoffs at champs there would be an argument there.
Despite EDG poor performance in Madrid and Shanghai, KangKang performance never been bad in those 2 internationals and in the VCT China.
#29 "Not to mention, kangkang played well all year lmao. His team flopping doesn't mean he flopped."
sorry if this argument might look and sound terrible, but had GEN.G defeated SEN or even TH, they already would be have the title of best team.
bc of GEN's terrible Champs performance, it sparked a debate (EDG improving on something even if it isn't that evident played a huge role on this sudden debate too)
They played well the entire season and then got walked by Sentinels in the most important tournament at the end… EDG didn't and simply improved, getting better and better. If they did NOTHING relevant the entire season and then suddenly won champs in a relatively dominant fashion, where mind you they nearly went flawless, BARLEY losing out to G2 once, then yeah they deserve that praise. It's far more difficult to improve and surpass top teams starting from a low point than simply maintaining form. And champs will always matter far more than anything during the rest of the season. Not to mention, kangkang played well all year lmao. His team flopping doesn't mean he flopped.
It’s best player of the year not best player at champs. When you mention “year” then it’s not just champs anymore. Texture and Meteor both deserve to be 1 and 2 on the list both can be ranked interchangeably. They were at the forefront of GenG at Madrid and Shanghai and yeah sure they got Sentinel’ed at champs but even then they played great meanwhile chicho 😭 is above meteor if it was KK it was somewhat understandable but chicho 😂 over meteor is hilarious to me. Well anyways it doesn’t matter at the end , all of them are great players just some better than other.
the effort and Improvement made in Split 2 to win champs (most important prestigious tournament) should ALWAYS BE NEGLECTED by 8 teams turney and Mid season international turney with recently bias argument to discredit them and give it to other teams instead. Being the best when it matters means nothing. Masters value > champs value. Money/Production/Prestigious means jackshit.
If anything, 8 teams masters achievement should be discredited, less competition and not every team will be at best early in season.
Who cares? Loud missed out on both following majors and didn't even do well in their own region, finished as a bottom 3 team, lmao. And heretics lost two grand finals. Geng can only win events when Sentinels aren't around. This is a terrible argument if that's the case none of them deserve anything they all fumbled at one point or another or many.
both meteor and kangkang great all year, the org performance throughout all the internationals just clouded individual performance with team performance on who's the better no1 player even tho different role. Best player should always be on the final champs winning team tho. Would be weird giving it to someone who lost at groups.
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