GEN 2 - 1 TS
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Friday, July 12th
6:15 AM EDT
Patch 9.0
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1.38 1.54 1.22 | 267 298 236 | 23 12 11 | / 15 7 8 / | 6 2 4 | +8 +5 +3 | 92% 83% 100% | 182 191 173 | 34% 48% 22% | 5 4 1 | 2 2 0 | +3 +2 +1 | |
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1.28 1.09 1.48 | 221 205 237 | 17 9 8 | / 12 7 5 / | 6 1 5 | +5 +2 +3 | 71% 83% 58% | 156 153 160 | 24% 35% 19% | 4 1 3 | 2 1 1 | +2 0 +2 | |
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0.91 0.54 1.28 | 185 145 227 | 16 5 11 | / 17 10 7 / | 8 6 2 | -1 -5 +4 | 67% 67% 67% | 120 99 141 | 25% 21% 28% | 3 1 2 | 4 2 2 | -1 -1 0 | |
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0.87 1.05 0.68 | 178 204 153 | 16 9 7 | / 17 8 9 / | 12 6 6 | -1 +1 -2 | 88% 92% 83% | 115 126 103 | 34% 25% 50% | 0 0 0 | 3 1 2 | -3 -1 -2 | |
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0.72 0.70 0.74 | 135 142 130 | 11 6 5 | / 19 9 10 / | 10 3 7 | -8 -3 -5 | 75% 83% 67% | 98 102 95 | 43% 38% 50% | 0 0 0 | 1 0 1 | -1 0 -1 |
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1.15 0.94 1.35 | 278 237 319 | 24 10 14 | / 21 12 9 / | 4 2 2 | +3 -2 +5 | 75% 67% 83% | 177 156 198 | 42% 29% 58% | 2 1 1 | 2 1 1 | 0 0 0 | |
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1.00 0.68 1.33 | 142 108 176 | 13 5 8 | / 13 7 6 / | 3 1 2 | 0 -2 +2 | 67% 67% 67% | 102 77 127 | 41% 31% 50% | 2 0 2 | 3 2 1 | -1 -2 +1 | |
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0.99 1.09 0.88 | 154 172 136 | 13 7 6 | / 16 8 8 / | 11 7 4 | -3 -1 -2 | 83% 83% 83% | 102 104 100 | 39% 41% 38% | 2 1 1 | 1 0 1 | +1 +1 0 | |
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0.90 1.08 0.73 | 181 184 180 | 15 8 7 | / 16 7 9 / | 7 3 4 | -1 +1 -2 | 71% 83% 58% | 111 113 109 | 19% 25% 16% | 1 0 1 | 2 0 2 | -1 0 -1 | |
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0.82 0.91 0.72 | 195 234 156 | 15 9 6 | / 18 9 9 / | 2 1 1 | -3 0 -3 | 58% 58% 58% | 116 130 103 | 23% 22% 25% | 5 4 1 | 4 3 1 | +1 +1 0 |
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1.02 1.50 1.26 | 226 184 268 | 36 16 20 | / 29 15 14 / | 10 3 7 | +7 +1 +6 | 71% 75% 67% | 159 133 184 | 24% 33% 20% | 7 3 4 | 2 1 1 | +5 +2 +3 | |
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1.20 0.76 0.98 | 204 242 165 | 35 20 15 | / 34 17 17 / | 8 2 6 | +1 +3 -2 | 75% 71% 79% | 138 153 123 | 30% 38% 21% | 10 7 3 | 7 6 1 | +3 +1 +2 | |
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0.76 1.14 0.95 | 179 163 196 | 29 15 14 | / 36 17 19 / | 26 10 16 | -7 -2 -5 | 79% 83% 75% | 128 108 148 | 25% 19% 30% | 2 1 1 | 4 1 3 | -2 0 -2 | |
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0.89 1.00 0.94 | 185 179 191 | 34 16 18 | / 34 16 18 / | 17 7 10 | 0 0 0 | 75% 71% 79% | 121 110 132 | 40% 40% 40% | 2 0 2 | 6 2 4 | -4 -2 -2 | |
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0.67 1.07 0.87 | 171 150 194 | 29 12 17 | / 34 17 17 / | 15 10 5 | -5 -5 0 | 69% 71% 67% | 120 110 129 | 28% 26% 30% | 3 1 2 | 7 3 4 | -4 -2 -2 |
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1.28 1.02 1.15 | 183 218 148 | 31 19 12 | / 31 16 15 / | 24 14 10 | 0 +3 -3 | 83% 88% 79% | 125 141 110 | 44% 45% 42% | 4 2 2 | 2 0 2 | +2 +2 0 | |
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0.82 1.18 1.00 | 188 173 204 | 31 14 17 | / 31 17 14 / | 8 3 5 | 0 -3 +3 | 65% 63% 67% | 120 107 133 | 26% 27% 26% | 6 5 1 | 6 5 1 | 0 0 0 | |
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0.62 1.05 0.83 | 149 143 156 | 26 12 14 | / 31 17 14 / | 6 3 3 | -5 -5 0 | 63% 67% 58% | 106 103 110 | 34% 23% 50% | 3 1 2 | 5 3 2 | -2 -2 0 | |
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0.90 0.74 0.82 | 148 156 142 | 24 13 11 | / 29 14 15 / | 14 8 6 | -5 -1 -4 | 71% 71% 71% | 98 104 92 | 22% 31% 16% | 3 0 3 | 6 2 4 | -3 -2 -1 |
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1.23 0.94 1.52 | 230 162 298 | 19 7 12 | / 17 8 9 / | 4 2 2 | +2 -1 +3 | 71% 67% 75% | 161 114 207 | 25% 31% 23% | 3 2 1 | 0 0 0 | +3 +2 +1 | |
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1.17 0.81 1.54 | 223 185 263 | 18 9 9 | / 17 8 9 / | 16 7 9 | +1 +1 0 | 83% 83% 83% | 158 115 200 | 18% 10% 25% | 2 1 1 | 3 1 2 | -1 0 -1 | |
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1.02 0.73 1.31 | 192 154 230 | 18 7 11 | / 17 8 9 / | 5 1 4 | +1 -1 +2 | 63% 50% 75% | 127 93 162 | 46% 73% 36% | 2 0 2 | 3 1 2 | -1 -1 0 | |
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0.83 0.80 0.86 | 157 155 160 | 13 7 6 | / 17 7 10 / | 7 4 3 | -4 0 -4 | 71% 75% 67% | 119 121 118 | 31% 30% 32% | 0 0 0 | 3 1 2 | -3 -1 -2 | |
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0.57 0.85 0.29 | 140 186 95 | 12 8 4 | / 19 10 9 / | 2 0 2 | -7 -2 -5 | 58% 58% 58% | 94 115 72 | 23% 25% 20% | 5 3 2 | 5 4 1 | 0 -1 +1 |
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1.31 1.46 1.16 | 211 263 160 | 18 12 6 | / 15 8 7 / | 13 7 6 | +3 +4 -1 | 83% 92% 75% | 148 177 119 | 48% 48% 47% | 2 1 1 | 1 0 1 | +1 +1 0 | |
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1.26 1.35 1.18 | 332 364 301 | 28 15 13 | / 21 11 10 / | 4 3 1 | +7 +4 +3 | 75% 75% 75% | 212 239 185 | 40% 44% 36% | 6 3 3 | 1 0 1 | +5 +3 +2 | |
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1.19 0.74 1.64 | 181 112 252 | 16 5 11 | / 13 8 5 / | 6 2 4 | +3 -3 +6 | 71% 67% 75% | 123 83 163 | 30% 36% 26% | 1 1 0 | 2 2 0 | -1 -1 0 | |
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0.73 0.72 0.75 | 115 129 103 | 9 5 4 | / 13 7 6 / | 7 5 2 | -4 -2 -2 | 71% 58% 83% | 86 96 76 | 28% 42% 18% | 2 0 2 | 4 2 2 | -2 -2 0 | |
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0.66 0.56 0.77 | 156 178 135 | 13 7 6 | / 18 10 8 / | 3 2 1 | -5 -3 -2 | 58% 67% 50% | 110 129 92 | 29% 19% 50% | 1 1 0 | 2 1 1 | -1 0 -1 |
Head-to-head
Past Matches
secretshin [#28]I want to eat 🍽 outrageous 😮 amounts of creamed 🤤 cookie 🍪 tonight 🌙 just the creamier the better 💦 🍪
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callsmejnine [#29]I want to eat 🍽 outrageous 😮 amounts of creamed 🤤 cookie 🍪 tonight 🌙 just the creamier the better 💦 🍪
I want to eat 🍽 outrageous 😮 amounts of creamed 🤤 cookie 🍪 tonight 🌙 just the creamier the better 💦 🍪
monopoly90 [#24]LFG TS!!! , but what if TS accidentally choke and talon won, and rrq loses to GenG, do they make it champs automatically? They will both have 7 points dont they?
Im scared of thw choke omfg
sentinelmain377 [#36]if Talon win this, Pacific is actually so bad.
no way Team Secret loses to this garbage team (throwing every other round
Talon isnt bad, they are inconsistent.
Team Secret is good, but they have Tottenham Hotspur in their blood
Basically who throw more loses
GeorgeGera [#12]Imagine defeating the Master's Shanghai winner to dodge them at single elim. playoffs only to lose to Talo Esports... that would be so onbrand for Team Silver.
guess I'm right with the classic Team Skibidi playoff choke.
That's not gonna happen anymore kid. Huhu
zeroouki [#17]talon 2-1 ts, talon brought god to this match and will shit on ts
Cry later okay? They lost to ZETA, one of the worst team in pacific. How can they even score 1 round against ts?
SKYLINE26 [#31]lets jinx this talon
LEZZGOOOOOOOOO TALON ESPORTSS WIN THIS
Go 4 star first. Jinx will not work if you have 0 star.
BrokenShade [#38]Talon isnt bad, they are inconsistent.
Team Secret is good, but they have Tottenham Hotspur in their blood
Basically who throw more loses
TS are the Tottenham of VCT. We might lose to TLN again 🙃
Lyze [#15]Ok TS it's actually bye bye now
ByE bye tEaM SiLvEr!!!!!1!1!1!!1!1!1!1!1!1🫠🫠🫠🫠🫠🫠🫠🫠🫠🫠🫠🫠🫠🫠🫠🫠😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉
TrashTalkerV2 [#42]Go 4 star first. Jinx will not work if you have 0 star.
Naah this guy change his whole identity
A lot of people are saying TS are gonna fumble, but let's be real. This current roster has yet to choke. They've shown resilience and the ability to comeback from a deficit. This is easily the best Secret has ever looked, and if they play even 80% as good as they played against GenG, they should win out against Talon.
kome-natsui [#22]Don't choke Team Secret, make it to Champs you dogshit team (win this, you become an okay team 👍)
TS 2 - 0 TLN
Noooo dont promotw them yet to "okayy", they are still dogshit unless they overwhelm the elimination gameee!!!!!
callsmejnine [#51]Noooo dont promotw them yet to "okayy", they are still dogshit unless they overwhelm the elimination gameee!!!!!
That is true, I will edit it back once they win.
Crovos_gg [#30]I want to eat 🍽 outrageous 😮 amounts of creamed 🤤 cookie 🍪 tonight 🌙 just the creamier the better 💦 🍪
I want to eat 🍽 outrageous 😮 amounts of creamed 🤤 cookie 🍪 tonight 🌙 just the creamier the better 💦 🍪
zellsid [#59]Does TS qualify to champs if they win this through championship points?
They need to win this and for RRQ to lose to GenG. If that happens, they are secured for champs.
itsLaplace [#58]I want to eat 🍽 outrageous 😮 amounts of creamed 🤤 cookie 🍪 tonight 🌙 just the creamier the better 💦 🍪
I want to eat 🍽 outrageous 😮 amounts of creamed 🤤 cookie 🍪 tonight 🌙 just the creamier the better 💦 🍪
TS doesn't lose on a rematch, last time these 2 teams faced each other back when ndg and borkum was still on the team, and now oreo and 2ge are here to stay, and ever since the 2 came in, I have faith in TS and I'll double it down by saying 2-0 in favor of TS, I have no respect for a team(talon) that match fixed games just so they can avoid the best team, you're a pussy if you're trying to do that and have no confidence to compete against the best of the best.
TrashTalkerV2 [#41]Cry later okay? They lost to ZETA, one of the worst team in pacific. How can they even score 1 round against ts?
nah talon lost to that team on purpose so they could avoid geng. what a loser move by them. they should be investigated coz of that match.
Kleinz17 [#6]im so fucking scared cuz of TS's history of choking in playoffs
Keep ur expectations low. We probably aren't winning against TLN. They read us like a book last time
sentinelmain377 [#36]if Talon win this, Pacific is actually so bad.
no way Team Secret loses to this garbage team (throwing every other round
Pacific is chaotic AF. It's just the Asian special.
They also like choking so much. 9-3's everywhere!
Kleinz17 [#6]im so fucking scared cuz of TS's history of choking in playoffs
TS found the solution to the choking problem, the strat is to choke first on the first half then after that, they will win the 2nd half until overtime, like the GenG vs TS 3rd map:Split.
sentinelmain377 [#36]if Talon win this, Pacific is actually so bad.
no way Team Secret loses to this garbage team (throwing every other round
TALON 1000x better than This fraud team
UnreignedX [#25]TLN 2 - 1 TS
im still not interested in team secret's newest adobo recipe
Update: it's 6-11, talon is 1 game away from winning, and im still not interested in ts adobo recipe.
TLN keeps gapping us and it's not even close
rosso4000 [#27]ok watch them do a generational choke here
TS were given a task to do the impossible. They were NEVER qualifying for Champs buddy
Lyze [#75]TALON 1000x better than This fraud team
TLN will give 1 map for TS because they feel bad for beating the most fraudulent team in VCT history
BaNoGO [#55]Drink water TS so you dont choke
Even if they drink water Governor is probably gonna neon diff Jremy
Vaupenzz [#87]This is the game that will determine the choking problem. If they lose here, secret is never making an international event. Praying for the best🙏
But they're looking better than ever.
oh wait...
Vaupenzz [#87]This is the game that will determine the choking problem. If they lose here, secret is never making an international event. Praying for the best🙏
Pacific loves choking 🫠🫠🫠🫠🫠🫠🫠🫠🫠🫠
heavensentsaint [#88]rip secret, primmie debut game
Thailand > Philippines when it comes to Valorant. Hasn't changed at all.
TrashTalkerV2 [#39]That's not gonna happen anymore kid. Huhu
Idk why u are happy about that, arent u suppose to cheer for talon 💀
hzlnuts [#103]come here before this primmie guy got exposed
Expose how bad secret really is. Yea that's what he'll do
justff [#106]sorry primmie but this ain't ur average ranked game lobby 💀💀,,,u have no chance against this ts roster
Watch ts bullets hit anything but TLN players
justff [#106]sorry primmie but this ain't ur average ranked game lobby 💀💀,,,u have no chance against this ts roster
Watch Primmie, Governor, and ban go +27
Lyze [#107]Watch ts bullets hit anything but TLN players
Way too fucking reliant on hero plays (looking at you 4nvy)
GeorgeGera [#12]Imagine defeating the Master's Shanghai winner to dodge them at single elim. playoffs only to lose to Talo Esports... that would be so onbrand for Team Silver.
guess I'm right with the classic Team Skibidi playoff choke.
Correction: that would be so on brand for Team Secrete
ASTEROIDCHILD [#105]come here before people call primmie a fraud for losing his first pro match in his career
did primmie won a master ?
cabrge [#101]hi primmie plz leave your mouse and keyboard and monitor and mousepad and headphones and eyes and hands and legs at home. thx!
lmao
Crayzid [#118]TS 2-0
why r filipino fans so insecure lol it's so cringe 😭 don't switch up when it happens
Did u mean TLN 2-0?
Hideyoshinasu [#50]A lot of people are saying TS are gonna fumble, but let's be real. This current roster has yet to choke. They've shown resilience and the ability to comeback from a deficit. This is easily the best Secret has ever looked, and if they play even 80% as good as they played against GenG, they should win out against Talon.
https://www.vlr.gg/314341/team-secret-vs-bleed-champions-tour-2024-pacific-stage-2-w1
7whanzussjwbsysbbejskaoao [#122]He's going +35
Invy is going -45
if team secret win. you need to stop hating for no reason, and stop being an absolute degenerate in vlr.
respect every single team here, stop glazing talon just because team secret choked back then.
its a fair match to both teams, no one is bad or good, it's just who's better at the end of the day.
only reply to this comment when you've stopped being a degenerate, and actually have respect.
KangTheConqueror [#127]if team secret win. you need to stop hating for no reason, and stop being an absolute degenerate in vlr.
respect every single team here, stop glazing talon just because team secret choked back then.
its a fair match to both teams, no one is bad or good, it's just who's better at the end of the day.only reply to this comment when you've stopped being a degenerate, and actually have respect.
Wtf bro
I'm just jinxing TLN
KangTheConqueror [#129]oh mb bro i was jinxing both teams 👀
Wtf
Blud made me scared for a second holy shit
7whanzussjwbsysbbejskaoao [#130]Wtf
Blud made me scared for a second holy shit
HAHAHAHAHAHA keep jinxing bro i admire your dedication
KangTheConqueror [#127]if team secret win. you need to stop hating for no reason, and stop being an absolute degenerate in vlr.
respect every single team here, stop glazing talon just because team secret choked back then.
its a fair match to both teams, no one is bad or good, it's just who's better at the end of the day.only reply to this comment when you've stopped being a degenerate, and actually have respect.
Holy shit
This is bro's first ever vlr post 💀💀💀💀
KangTheConqueror [#131]HAHAHAHAHAHA keep jinxing bro i admire your dedication
Let the man cook, my guy
Cu55Ku55_______ [#133]Holy shit
This is bro's first ever vlr post 💀💀💀💀
and i regret it bro, vlr threads are cancer 💀
KangTheConqueror [#139]and i regret it bro, vlr threads are cancer 💀
Not all threads are cancer tho
UnreignedX [#25]TLN 2 - 1 TS
im still not interested in team secret's newest adobo recipe
Update: it's 6-11, talon is 1 game away from winning, and im still not interested in ts adobo recipe.
I'm just glad we made it to playoffs
Hideyoshinasu [#50]A lot of people are saying TS are gonna fumble, but let's be real. This current roster has yet to choke. They've shown resilience and the ability to comeback from a deficit. This is easily the best Secret has ever looked, and if they play even 80% as good as they played against GenG, they should win out against Talon.
Hopefully they don't choke a 10-2 lead again
Vaupenzz [#87]This is the game that will determine the choking problem. If they lose here, secret is never making an international event. Praying for the best🙏
I'm watching more LoL and DOTA if TS choke again
_Nonsense [#97]This is the true 50:50
Both team constantly beat each other
This is quite hard but i lean more toward TS
TS looks more consistent as a team, even when they they lose the round gap isn't too big
TS 2-1
VCT Pacific playoffs are always exciting
Crayzid [#118]TS 2-0
why r filipino fans so insecure lol it's so cringe 😭 don't switch up when it happens
This is NOT gonna be a 2-0.
Lyze [#137]Shut up NRG fan TLN owns secret
I mean, you're not wrong
Hopefully we can turn it around this time
douradoxp [#151]are talon winning chances that high now with primmie?
it’s basically random because he is a hard upgrade to any of their players, but adding him means they have less practice and more language barrier. also it’s literally his first pro match so easily could get nervous
i think the negatives outweigh the positives tbh
love_trial [#134]they shouldn’t play primmie here it makes no sense to put that pressure on him
win this with your regular roster and let him play against drx where they have a safety net lol
He might not even play this game, it's just FrosT's way to make TS overthink, to put more information for them to consider. FrosT has been cookin different comp during the season.
the team Secret special is conditional
- beat the no1 team this time its GenG (because they won shanghai)
- gets eliminated in the playoffs (like how 2-4 t1 beat them stage 1)
even with the new addition of primmie im still hopeful that secret this time will break the team secret special all because TLN does not have enough reps/scrims/matches with primmie
Team Secret 2 - 0 Talon
kelvinini [#155]the team Secret special is conditional
- beat the no1 team this time its GenG (because they won shanghai)
- gets eliminated in the playoffs (like how 2-4 t1 beat them stage 1)
even with the new addition of primmie im still hopeful that secret this time will break the team secret special all because TLN does not have enough reps/scrims/matches with primmie
Team Secret 2 - 0 Talon
TS with this roster so far has broken 1 curse which is the 3winstreak only but with the win against geng, theywent up to 4. If they break this playoffs curse, then Ican say that they are so fucking ready to do more this season.
Wishing secret all the best because they've got the potential.
7whanzussjwbsysbbejskaoao [#32]TLN 2-1 tbh
They are TS's kryptonite
It's shite being Filipino
Thailand > PH
#NOTAJINX #THAICURRYISDELICIOUS
Talon > TS > PRX/GEN G > CN/AMERICAS?EMEA
Conclusion: Talon Greatest Team to EVER
kelvinini [#155]the team Secret special is conditional
- beat the no1 team this time its GenG (because they won shanghai)
- gets eliminated in the playoffs (like how 2-4 t1 beat them stage 1)
even with the new addition of primmie im still hopeful that secret this time will break the team secret special all because TLN does not have enough reps/scrims/matches with primmie
Team Secret 2 - 0 Talon
Be ready to be broken heart again dude
Jaiiwuuss [#67]nah talon lost to that team on purpose so they could avoid geng. what a loser move by them. they should be investigated coz of that match.
wym, lol geng should won that match
Br562 [#166]https://www.vlr.gg/348635/barn-nong-chok-vs-gollum666-challengers-league-2024-thailand-split-2-lr5
Primmie's Statline tom
Honestly, wouldn't even be surprised if that actually happens. People are hyping this man up way too much. Even Karon and Woot didn't have fantastic opening matches.
Hideyoshinasu [#50]A lot of people are saying TS are gonna fumble, but let's be real. This current roster has yet to choke. They've shown resilience and the ability to comeback from a deficit. This is easily the best Secret has ever looked, and if they play even 80% as good as they played against GenG, they should win out against Talon.
hey dont jinx. TS will lose TS will lose TS will lose
kelvinini [#155]the team Secret special is conditional
- beat the no1 team this time its GenG (because they won shanghai)
- gets eliminated in the playoffs (like how 2-4 t1 beat them stage 1)
even with the new addition of primmie im still hopeful that secret this time will break the team secret special all because TLN does not have enough reps/scrims/matches with primmie
Team Secret 2 - 0 Talon
TLN 2-1 TS
Sunset merchants keke
Hideyoshinasu [#169]Honestly, wouldn't even be surprised if that actually happens. People are hyping this man up way too much. Even Karon and Woot didn't have fantastic opening matches.
karon was not as dominant as primmie in ranked tho
Ehhh [#182]Is primmie gonna play or no? I dont see him on the lineup
If I am in the place of talon head coach, probably no, he just got signed and probably less chemistry in the team. Personally I wouldn't risk something that would change the team's dynamic if they already made it this far. The primmie signing probably just a distraction so that team secret will have a hard time figuring them out this time.
Ehhh [#182]Is primmie gonna play or no? I dont see him on the lineup
From what I heard on the spiketalk podcast, he's gonna be playing on abyss.
luckypleb [#177]karon was not as dominant as primmie in ranked tho
Korean Comp is very different from SEA comp
Look at ndg for example, he reached top 4 radiant in sea and verymuch dominant as primmie in rank still
Qiyana [#200]I bet all my 1,000 Dollars in TS.You better this playoffs,l've been betting TS ever since in Stage 2.
LOL
kome-natsui [#22]Don't choke Team Secret, make it to Champs you dogshit team (win this, you become an okay team 👍)
TS 2 - 0 TLN
I'm done.
I'm actually fucking done.
I'm done with this shit.
Fuck Team Secret. I'm done with this team.
I'm done with this shit. Bye.
Qiyana [#200]I bet all my 1,000 Dollars in TS.You better this playoffs,l've been betting TS ever since in Stage 2.
Skibidi
MourninggStarr [#266]primmie is what we wanted patiphan to be
nah, prime patiphan is different level
Qiyana [#200]I bet all my 1,000 Dollars in TS.You better this playoffs,l've been betting TS ever since in Stage 2.
Skibidi
fictional [#270]nah, prime patiphan is different level
i wish he will comeback. he is still good enough to compete. even for last year talon, he was the only consistent player on the team. replace him with governor or ban and talon will be perfect. pati is really good flex player. talon dont need a duelist like gov anymore. they got primmie already.
stopper [#259]nice try team secret. i cant be too sad they put up a really good fight ;[.
lol are u kidding? jessyvash cant kill a guy from behind with sheriff what a fking troll
nahid6970 [#277]lol are u kidding? jessyvash cant kill a guy from behind with sheriff what a fking troll
it happens. he played well the rest of the time though so its all good.
khianoki [#281]TS needs to kick jremy he aint a prodigy bro why are they forcing it, they should pick up zeus from avernus esports he the real prodigy. 🙃
or Patrick Watson from astro world
cristiadu [#289]-ban or -Governor +Surf and then talon is actually pretty good
Vc ja assistiu algum jogo da Talon por acaso?? O surf é HORRIVEL, tirar o Governor ou o Ban é pedir pra esse time perder ate pra mibr
pixeloxie [#288]cant believe talon will be the 4th spot after matchfixing
They become the 4th spot because of matchfixing and primmie
HeIsTet [#294]damn one guy makes a shit team beat an actual good team wtf
Talon wasn't really a bad team tho
annoybrocc02 [#298]Talon wasn't really a bad team tho
Talon reminds me of KRU they look good but they don't win
fictional [#270]nah, prime patiphan is different level
idk if were talking about aiming and how it natural his like feel for the game looks i'd give it to primmie but as a player prime patiphan was the complete package on duelist man sometimes I wish he never went to owl even though I'm an overwatch fan
HeIsTet [#301]Talon reminds me of KRU they look good but they don't win
WTF are u talking about? They beat TS without Primmie 2 times already.
wallll [#304]WTF are u talking about? They beat TS without Primmie 2 times already.
ts is not that good, specially on elimination/knockout matches 💀
wallll [#304]WTF are u talking about? They beat TS without Primmie 2 times already.
Well stage 2 TS was looking like a top team they beat GENG. Talon has looked good and bad but not undefeated like TS rn
Lyze [#233]Invy and jremy to owc
perfect replacement for enri and hyeok
I heard that they aren't playing in OWC this year
stopper [#279]it happens. he played well the rest of the time though so its all good.
yea but that round made sure thry lost the momentum
HeIsTet [#306]Well stage 2 TS was looking like a top team they beat GENG. Talon has looked good and bad but not undefeated like TS rn
Talon just beat TS 2 months ago. I still remember everything. At that time, people thought that TS was gonna win becuz they just won against PRX, but it the end it was talon that win. This time, They win too but people keep sayin " TS was so good. Tln so shit, they won becuz of Primmie" Im so tried of hearing this shit, man. How many times do you want them to beat TS, just say it.
HeIsTet [#306]Well stage 2 TS was looking like a top team they beat GENG. Talon has looked good and bad but not undefeated like TS rn
They even won against T1, who qualified to Master Shianghai as the 3rd place.(T1 won against TS and GENG at that time) If it wasn't becuz of the bad group stage distribution, They would have qualified to Master Shianghai too.
Fill 'em with the venom, and eliminate 'em
Other words, I Minute Maid 'em
I don't wanna hurt 'em, but I did, I'm in a fit of rage
I'm murderin' again, nobody will evade
I'm finna kill 'em, I'm dumpin' their fuckin' bodies in the lake
Obliteratin' everything, incinerate a renegade
I'm here to make anybody who want it with the pen afraid
But don't nobody want it but they're gonna get it anyway
'Cause I'm beginnin' to feel like I'm mentally ill
I'm Atilla, kill or be killed, I'm a killer bee, the vanilla gorilla
You're bringin' the killer within me, out of me
You don't want to be the enemy of the demon
Who went in me, and be on the receiving of me, what stupidity it'd be
Every bit of me is the epitome of a spitter
When I'm in the vicinity, motherfucker, you better duck
Or you finna be dead the minute you run into me
A hundred percent of you is a fifth of a percent of me
I'm 'bout to fuckin' finish you bitch, I'm unfadable
You wanna battle, I'm available, I'm blowin' up like an inflatable
I'm undebatable, I'm unavoidable, I'm unevadable
I'm on the toilet bowl
I got a trailer full of money, and I'm paid in full
I'm not afraid to pull a-, man, stop
Look what I'm plannin' (haha)
wh1ff [#74]TS found the solution to the choking problem, the strat is to choke first on the first half then after that, they will win the 2nd half until overtime, like the GenG vs TS 3rd map:Split.
WHAT DID YOU SAY NOW?
Lyze [#15]Ok TS it's actually bye bye now
0nvy choked on Lotus and jr0my choked on Abyss
they cannot beat the burned out and washed allegations
they just aren't as dynamic as they were during 2023. ACCEPT IT.
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