China don't deserve 4 Champions slots

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monitar

It's ridiculous that a single country has four champions slots, isn't it? The United States, arguably the strongest country in valorant may get two or three slots, yet a relatively weak country can secure four slots? Why is that? Reduce one or two slot from the China region and allocate it to the Masters winner's region instead.

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Yeah they do how can they improve

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Num1_Rushindra_Fan

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improve ? still edg and fpx farm that farmers league, the chinese league is literally retirement home with quick money grab

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SEA had 1 slot, Jp had 1 slot, Kr had 1 slot for the majority of 2022 if im not wrong. And especially in 2024, where every region is merged, its a bit weird to see china being left alone. Its not good for their scene and slots they getting

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China needs to get better coaches not more slots agree

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Improve?
Join the Pacific league xd

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Unitimes

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No thank u, Pacific has just surpassed Europe, We don't want to be last anymore.

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we? taiwan only has players on prc china teams. i dont think theres a single taiwanese in pacific. china literally reps u. u aint part of pacific as much as sadly aus isnt either lmfao

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I don't care about nationality, I'm just a Pacific fan. My sole interest lies in the strength of the Pacific. That's all.
Technically speaking, Taiwan's Challenger League is in the Pacific region. u can check it. it call TW/HK, and they sucks. XD I don't think any Taiwanese team will win the ascension in the short term.

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in the name of equity?

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Blaezey

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That’s equality. Equity would be giving each region the amount of slots where each team can be competitive.

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cboomer

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no bro equity would be giving china better coaches,

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Warlordwibz

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OCE waste of slot in APAC, turn it like South Africa 0 slot for MENA/EMEA ascension too.

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On to absolutely nothing 💀💀💀

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Wezzaa

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What is Blud yapping about

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Warlordwibz

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put OCE back to North America challengers/LCQ like 2021, ur wasting slots in Asia.

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How does that make any sense ? Who are we taking slots from ? And lcq doesn’t exist anymore ?

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Warlordwibz

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allocate it to the ~~Masters~~ ascension winner's region instead.

0 OCE team in ascension, 2 MY/SG team.

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Weffery

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By that logic take out half the teams in VCT CN since OCE owns your fucking region 💀

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take out autumn from FPX. Go play in NA. Ur not contributing to asia timezone viewerbase. Get that FPX flair off too. U even think pl1xx is true blue aussie? yer right m8.

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Weffery

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Ppl who purposely make bait threads on this site have more functional brain cells then you

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Warlordwibz

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CN and APAC is Asia, we share same timezone and Region as OCE. Ur wasting our slot, If u not supporting Asia region, move your region and play in NA. Simple as that. Fk off m8.

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Nooo China deserves these slots!!! They need time to develop!!! Huh? OCE slots? Well they suck… I mean if we give them slots I don’t think they’ll improve… let’s just not give them any support…

continue thread →

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Yea no you clearly have something missing in your brain if you genuinely think like this,
Peace

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trikecycle

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0/8

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Riot earns millions of skin sales money from Chinese, probably as high as entire EU.

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bruc

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So? Do you want to see games like this?

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ohnyfans

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you think riot (or for that matter, any company) would care if they're making bank in the process?

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Liotakla

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I would like to see edg vs Navi game more. Bruh edg has given us so many fun games as well. They just mentally boomed today. Now don't hate on team so much. They have been improving really well.

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I'm not hating on EDG (while It does sound like), for one I think their one of the top 10 in world, but China in my eyes is more of a farm region. But who knows maybe they get better...

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bruc

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Also 4 is a lotttt just saying...

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Liotakla

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Maybe give them chance once more I would say. Cn teams apart from edg have looked better this year so much compared to last year in regional as well. I think especially teams like trace or blg and even wolves will perform better than fpx. And edg will comeback better too next time. Today they got mentally boomed so bad.

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zhongZHI

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i mean ig we still need to give them a chance they are far apart cuz the time they lacked. look at league kr and cn joined like a couple years late and its now just their show. rn i think riot is just testing for better regions thats why everyone is equal

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Compact665

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They had almost 2 years for development, but the chances is being wasted. Better forget them.

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Compact665

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4 slots ×
0 slots ✓
Combine with VCT Pacific ✓

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NA frogs saying this after their 2nd best team got bodied TWICE by BLG 🤣🤣🤣 who weren’t even top 4 CN btw, guess NA is also a farm region 💀💀

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that was last yr m8...

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CN doesn't deserve to be its own region more than South America did. It's a crying shame that Riot is China's bitch

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Liotakla

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Maybe cause it's Chinese company technically?

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rtg9000

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i dont fully disagree but how exactly do you propose China would've been introduced into the pro scene a year late without their own league?

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Skywarp

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SA is literally a one team region every team except Loud is worse than CN tier 2 🤣 ‘SA team’ Lev replaced all their SA players and they are still shit 😭😭💀💀

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SA 1 CHAMPIONS

CHINA/ PACIFIC 0

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SA 1 Champions
CHINA 1 CHAMPIONS

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Nosk

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SA//CHINA 1 CHAMPIOSN

PACIFIC 00000000000000000000000000000000000000 CHAMPIONS

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yoccuu

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Stay mad 😂

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cry me a river, bye

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yoccuu

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lmao says the one thats been crying
Also why would i be crying when we got a league

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maybe bring as much money as china brigs and you can have 4 slots also

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HelVini

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I agree south america deserves it more imagine if instead of china we had LEV

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Skywarp

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Lev ‘South American’ team 🤣🤣🤣 Imagine if riot let EDG import chronicle, f0rsaken, mako… that’s basically what Lev done

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gentler

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because CN will be future top 2 region, the other KR. Let's just speed up the process.

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Netero

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It's not a moba lol

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GambleNats

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yet EDG still dominate

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brahianv

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china is not doing sh1t in a shooter

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Liotakla

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I mean PUBG is a shooter game even overwatch can be said to be. And china are quite good at those. Only shooter games they aren't that good are cs and valo. Well tbh Cs and valo are like the biggest shooter eSports too tbh.

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chinese are just not good at tac fps. Period. There is no excuse this time around unlike cs. In cs, they be like because there no good teams to scrim with in east asia except for the mongolians team. Same could be said about NA cs. Theres no good team to scrim with. So the tactics is not as good as those big EU teams.

However in valorant, there are so many decent teams in east asia for the chinese to scrim with. Prx, drx, geng, zeta etc. i will give china 3 more years. If they are still not good in their tactics and discipline, we can officially say the Chinese is not good at tac fps. We need see more than 1 super team from china other than edg. There will be no excuse by then.

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GambleNats

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seems like they are :)

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they should give china 1 more year to get better. LOL still dominates so they probably r trying to convince chinese viewers to like valorant

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Having it be balanced for now is fine but I would love to see this change to reward regions for success across many years. Keeping it at 4 slots minimum per region but having a expanded champs with more slots for the more successful regions

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it isnt only china. Hong kong and taiwan are there too

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DeluluGavin

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HK and TW players only, not team and the region is specified as CN

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Er3ngenes1s

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no players from those play in there too

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Lol I remember these posts before franchise era

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cta

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RIOT just make a global event before champions with 16 teams(4 per region) for 8 slots to champions, and only guarantee 2 slots per region(8 teams), with this champions will be more competitive

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By population india should also get franchise structure

Riot is china funded iirc , so fairs rito

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Skywarp

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India already got given a franchise slot in pacific purely due to population and that’s still too much for them

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I feel like in the short term they at the very least should've let CN have 2 import slots per team for like... a year or 2

would it have made the region substantially better? no lol
Do I think the region would atleast be slightly better? yeah, better competition internally would hopefully make even the top teams slightly better

Atleast a team like JDG would look pretty good, Kr1stal maybe coulda got a T1 CN offer (bros just guessing with this one) plus... uhh yeah not much more

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The power of money..

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china<americans

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blx

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theres something called money and having the biggest gaming industry in the world. Give them after Masters Shanghai. I think Masters Shanghai is when the chinese teams start to get better because they got international teams starting to scrim the other chinese teams besides EDG and FPX. By Champs or 2025 I think thats when they are up to par besides EDG.

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Cezka000

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Kids, learn about business aspect in e-Sport. Then talk to us, the adult

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lmao china started so far behind everyone else because of game release time and they have a massive player base and potential. If the other teams had similar amount of play experience as them they would be getting destroyed. All the mechanics are there it just needs time to develop as a region

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good for them they can pay for their slots but please give SEA one of those spots. just put china, korea and japan together.

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I love the slot repartition, and I really love how almost every 4 major league have the same amount of people in it :

Americas : 1M0
China : 1M4
APAC : 0M9 (Without South Asia that has no PC culture Yet, and no player in the T1 except 1)
EMEA : 0M9 (Without Middle East and Africa that has no PC culture Yet, and no player in the T1)

Every region should have roughly the same size and every region should have the same number of slot regardless of their performance (If not that will create a snowball effect, best region will have more international experience and become stronger, and we all love the fact that every region can win Valo)

Maybe one day Africa, Middle-East, South Asia will have a sufficient PC culture to become a T1 region on their own (And this day I hope they will have the same amount of spot of the other T1 region despite being trash for the moment), but while that's not the case, the distribution is perfect. Maybe in 50 years when population of Asean will boom and China-Korea-Japan will demographically collapse, we will have to redraw Asian border and have and move China, Korea and Japan team in the same region (East Asia, as in GC), and letting more spot to Asean, but for the moment this is perfect as it is.

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Unitimes

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The fundamental concept of your theory revolves around the notion that Valorant has the potential to sustain a 20-year longevity.which is unlikely.

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Jezy

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So what I’m seeing from this thread is half of you think not developing a region is the way to go? So the teams won’t get better after 9/10 weeks of practice in their IL and after a 2nd int event ? Please make it make sense I understand hindsight but this seems suicidal for viewership and monetary reasons

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When will you stop complaining about this. Its healthy for the future remeber when you all said pacific doesnt deserve a spot exept v1 look at them now just relax and enjoy the games

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VI0LENCE

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dude wants a americas league in champions lul

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Womp womp

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Because they have a population of 1 billion and their playerbase is estimated to be huge and can bring in massive viewership. It don't matter if they're ass as long as they have EDG going 5-6th every Internationals. They also have potential to improve, cause as we've seen they have the teamwork and the ideas, just lack experience and mental for it.

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Beacuse, riot likes money

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Water is wet.


Rito do their decision to gain more revenue and viewerships. It's all about money and the competitive integrities are little to none. I wouldn't doubt that them rigging draws and especially the scheduling, etcs.

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s0APKing

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because Tencent is RIOT father

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MAHVEL

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they want to bury this, but it's true. CN doesn't deserve 4 slots at champions.

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I mean I would say 4 is too many for any region, much less the weakest one, but i’m all for seeing new teams and players there. I find it exciting. Somehow SEN and LOUD will still end up in the same group

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You know - I appreciate this take, and the fact that you actually gave a reason for why, whereas most people just shit on you for having a diff opinion without providing a reason. This is a healthy and good take though.

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Tell me you dont know how business works without telling me you dont know how business works
Do you even know the market size of China? how much riot can capitalize over that? and riot is basically owned by china

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keke

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keke
Ausie mad their only player left to ch0na keke

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oce is garbage

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where is your team now?

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stupid

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womp womp

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lol