It's ridiculous that a single country has four champions slots, isn't it? The United States, arguably the strongest country in valorant may get two or three slots, yet a relatively weak country can secure four slots? Why is that? Reduce one or two slot from the China region and allocate it to the Masters winner's region instead.
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China don't deserve 4 Champions slots
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Warlordwibz [#4]OCE waste of slot in APAC, turn it like South Africa 0 slot for MENA/EMEA ascension too.
On to absolutely nothing 💀💀💀
YusaEmilia [#5]Riot earns millions of skin sales money from Chinese, probably as high as entire EU.
So? Do you want to see games like this?
Himari [#2]Yeah they do how can they improve
improve ? still edg and fpx farm that farmers league, the chinese league is literally retirement home with quick money grab
FireII [#3]in the name of equity?
That’s equality. Equity would be giving each region the amount of slots where each team can be competitive.
Warlordwibz [#4]OCE waste of slot in APAC, turn it like South Africa 0 slot for MENA/EMEA ascension too.
What is Blud yapping about
gentler [#12]because CN will be future top 2 region, the other KR. Let's just speed up the process.
It's not a moba lol
badvibrations [#7]CN doesn't deserve to be its own region more than South America did. It's a crying shame that Riot is China's bitch
Maybe cause it's Chinese company technically?
gentler [#12]because CN will be future top 2 region, the other KR. Let's just speed up the process.
china is not doing sh1t in a shooter
badvibrations [#7]CN doesn't deserve to be its own region more than South America did. It's a crying shame that Riot is China's bitch
i dont fully disagree but how exactly do you propose China would've been introduced into the pro scene a year late without their own league?
Liotakla [#16]I would like to see edg vs Navi game more. Bruh edg has given us so many fun games as well. They just mentally boomed today. Now don't hate on team so much. They have been improving really well.
I'm not hating on EDG (while It does sound like), for one I think their one of the top 10 in world, but China in my eyes is more of a farm region. But who knows maybe they get better...
Himari [#2]Yeah they do how can they improve
SEA had 1 slot, Jp had 1 slot, Kr had 1 slot for the majority of 2022 if im not wrong. And especially in 2024, where every region is merged, its a bit weird to see china being left alone. Its not good for their scene and slots they getting
bruc [#25]I'm not hating on EDG (while It does sound like), for one I think their one of the top 10 in world, but China in my eyes is more of a farm region. But who knows maybe they get better...
Also 4 is a lotttt just saying...
Er3ngenes1s [#22]it isnt only china. Hong kong and taiwan are there too
HK and TW players only, not team and the region is specified as CN
Blaezey [#14]That’s equality. Equity would be giving each region the amount of slots where each team can be competitive.
no bro equity would be giving china better coaches,
brahianv [#19]china is not doing sh1t in a shooter
I mean PUBG is a shooter game even overwatch can be said to be. And china are quite good at those. Only shooter games they aren't that good are cs and valo. Well tbh Cs and valo are like the biggest shooter eSports too tbh.
I feel like in the short term they at the very least should've let CN have 2 import slots per team for like... a year or 2
would it have made the region substantially better? no lol
Do I think the region would atleast be slightly better? yeah, better competition internally would hopefully make even the top teams slightly better
Atleast a team like JDG would look pretty good, Kr1stal maybe coulda got a T1 CN offer (bros just guessing with this one) plus... uhh yeah not much more
Wezzaa [#15]What is Blud yapping about
put OCE back to North America challengers/LCQ like 2021, ur wasting slots in Asia.
DeluluGavin [#30]HK and TW players only, not team and the region is specified as CN
no players from those play in there too
Warlordwibz [#36]put OCE back to North America challengers/LCQ like 2021, ur wasting slots in Asia.
How does that make any sense ? Who are we taking slots from ? And lcq doesn’t exist anymore ?
Weffery [#38]How does that make any sense ? Who are we taking slots from ? And lcq doesn’t exist anymore ?
allocate it to the
Mastersascension winner's region instead.
0 OCE team in ascension, 2 MY/SG team.
bruc [#28]Also 4 is a lotttt just saying...
Maybe give them chance once more I would say. Cn teams apart from edg have looked better this year so much compared to last year in regional as well. I think especially teams like trace or blg and even wolves will perform better than fpx. And edg will comeback better too next time. Today they got mentally boomed so bad.
Warlordwibz [#39]allocate it to the
Mastersascension winner's region instead.0 OCE team in ascension, 2 MY/SG team.
By that logic take out half the teams in VCT CN since OCE owns your fucking region 💀
FNC_Ajay [#29]By population india should also get franchise structure
Riot is china funded iirc , so fairs rito
India already got given a franchise slot in pacific purely due to population and that’s still too much for them
Weffery [#41]By that logic take out half the teams in VCT CN since OCE owns your fucking region 💀
take out autumn from FPX. Go play in NA. Ur not contributing to asia timezone viewerbase. Get that FPX flair off too. U even think pl1xx is true blue aussie? yer right m8.
badvibrations [#7]CN doesn't deserve to be its own region more than South America did. It's a crying shame that Riot is China's bitch
SA is literally a one team region every team except Loud is worse than CN tier 2 🤣 ‘SA team’ Lev replaced all their SA players and they are still shit 😭😭💀💀
Warlordwibz [#43]take out autumn from FPX. Go play in NA. Ur not contributing to asia timezone viewerbase. Get that FPX flair off too. U even think pl1xx is true blue aussie? yer right m8.
Ppl who purposely make bait threads on this site have more functional brain cells then you
HelVini [#11]I agree south america deserves it more imagine if instead of china we had LEV
Lev ‘South American’ team 🤣🤣🤣 Imagine if riot let EDG import chronicle, f0rsaken, mako… that’s basically what Lev done
bruc [#25]I'm not hating on EDG (while It does sound like), for one I think their one of the top 10 in world, but China in my eyes is more of a farm region. But who knows maybe they get better...
NA frogs saying this after their 2nd best team got bodied TWICE by BLG 🤣🤣🤣 who weren’t even top 4 CN btw, guess NA is also a farm region 💀💀
DeluluGavin [#26]SEA had 1 slot, Jp had 1 slot, Kr had 1 slot for the majority of 2022 if im not wrong. And especially in 2024, where every region is merged, its a bit weird to see china being left alone. Its not good for their scene and slots they getting
China needs to get better coaches not more slots agree
Weffery [#45]Ppl who purposely make bait threads on this site have more functional brain cells then you
CN and APAC is Asia, we share same timezone and Region as OCE. Ur wasting our slot, If u not supporting Asia region, move your region and play in NA. Simple as that. Fk off m8.
Warlordwibz [#49]CN and APAC is Asia, we share same timezone and Region as OCE. Ur wasting our slot, If u not supporting Asia region, move your region and play in NA. Simple as that. Fk off m8.
Nooo China deserves these slots!!! They need time to develop!!! Huh? OCE slots? Well they suck… I mean if we give them slots I don’t think they’ll improve… let’s just not give them any support…
Skywarp [#44]SA is literally a one team region every team except Loud is worse than CN tier 2 🤣 ‘SA team’ Lev replaced all their SA players and they are still shit 😭😭💀💀
SA 1 CHAMPIONS
CHINA/ PACIFIC 0
Warlordwibz [#49]CN and APAC is Asia, we share same timezone and Region as OCE. Ur wasting our slot, If u not supporting Asia region, move your region and play in NA. Simple as that. Fk off m8.
Yea no you clearly have something missing in your brain if you genuinely think like this,
Peace
taejuny [#50]Nooo China deserves these slots!!! They need time to develop!!! Huh? OCE slots? Well they suck… I mean if we give them slots I don’t think they’ll improve… let’s just not give them any support…
I'm talking T2 ascension, OCE just too far away from Tokyo/HK/SG. SEA and EA teams (including CN) benefit each other from HK sever. There's literally no development what so ever with South Africa, and if EMEA can just exclude South Africa from MENA -> EMEA ascension, exclude OCE can be possibility.
"#41 OCE owns your fucking region", obviously a disgraceful traitor to the region of CN and Asia.
then gtfo of asia, move to NA like 2021. We get to see more DESERVING asia teams competing in Ascension.
badvibrations [#7]CN doesn't deserve to be its own region more than South America did. It's a crying shame that Riot is China's bitch
Stay mad 😂
badvibrations [#55]cry me a river, bye
lmao says the one thats been crying
Also why would i be crying when we got a league
theres something called money and having the biggest gaming industry in the world. Give them after Masters Shanghai. I think Masters Shanghai is when the chinese teams start to get better because they got international teams starting to scrim the other chinese teams besides EDG and FPX. By Champs or 2025 I think thats when they are up to par besides EDG.
bruc [#28]Also 4 is a lotttt just saying...
i mean ig we still need to give them a chance they are far apart cuz the time they lacked. look at league kr and cn joined like a couple years late and its now just their show. rn i think riot is just testing for better regions thats why everyone is equal
Warlordwibz [#4]OCE waste of slot in APAC, turn it like South Africa 0 slot for MENA/EMEA ascension too.
0/8
I love the slot repartition, and I really love how almost every 4 major league have the same amount of people in it :
- Americas : 1M0
- China : 1M4
- APAC : 0M9 (Without South Asia that has no PC culture Yet, and no player in the T1 except 1)
- EMEA : 0M9 (Without Middle East and Africa that has no PC culture Yet, and no player in the T1)
Every region should have roughly the same size and every region should have the same number of slot regardless of their performance (If not that will create a snowball effect, best region will have more international experience and become stronger, and we all love the fact that every region can win Valo)
Maybe one day Africa, Middle-East, South Asia will have a sufficient PC culture to become a T1 region on their own (And this day I hope they will have the same amount of spot of the other T1 region despite being trash for the moment), but while that's not the case, the distribution is perfect. Maybe in 50 years when population of Asean will boom and China-Korea-Japan will demographically collapse, we will have to redraw Asian border and have and move China, Korea and Japan team in the same region (East Asia, as in GC), and letting more spot to Asean, but for the moment this is perfect as it is.
So what I’m seeing from this thread is half of you think not developing a region is the way to go? So the teams won’t get better after 9/10 weeks of practice in their IL and after a 2nd int event ? Please make it make sense I understand hindsight but this seems suicidal for viewership and monetary reasons
Liotakla [#32]I mean PUBG is a shooter game even overwatch can be said to be. And china are quite good at those. Only shooter games they aren't that good are cs and valo. Well tbh Cs and valo are like the biggest shooter eSports too tbh.
chinese are just not good at tac fps. Period. There is no excuse this time around unlike cs. In cs, they be like because there no good teams to scrim with in east asia except for the mongolians team. Same could be said about NA cs. Theres no good team to scrim with. So the tactics is not as good as those big EU teams.
However in valorant, there are so many decent teams in east asia for the chinese to scrim with. Prx, drx, geng, zeta etc. i will give china 3 more years. If they are still not good in their tactics and discipline, we can officially say the Chinese is not good at tac fps. We need see more than 1 super team from china other than edg. There will be no excuse by then.
zhongZHI [#58]i mean ig we still need to give them a chance they are far apart cuz the time they lacked. look at league kr and cn joined like a couple years late and its now just their show. rn i think riot is just testing for better regions thats why everyone is equal
They had almost 2 years for development, but the chances is being wasted. Better forget them.
NioMS [#63]Improve?
Join the Pacific league xd
No thank u, Pacific has just surpassed Europe, We don't want to be last anymore.
Skywarp [#47]NA frogs saying this after their 2nd best team got bodied TWICE by BLG 🤣🤣🤣 who weren’t even top 4 CN btw, guess NA is also a farm region 💀💀
that was last yr m8...
Anguibok [#64]I love the slot repartition, and I really love how almost every 4 major league have the same amount of people in it :
- Americas : 1M0
- China : 1M4
- APAC : 0M9 (Without South Asia that has no PC culture Yet, and no player in the T1 except 1)
- EMEA : 0M9 (Without Middle East and Africa that has no PC culture Yet, and no player in the T1)
Every region should have roughly the same size and every region should have the same number of slot regardless of their performance (If not that will create a snowball effect, best region will have more international experience and become stronger, and we all love the fact that every region can win Valo)
Maybe one day Africa, Middle-East, South Asia will have a sufficient PC culture to become a T1 region on their own (And this day I hope they will have the same amount of spot of the other T1 region despite being trash for the moment), but while that's not the case, the distribution is perfect. Maybe in 50 years when population of Asean will boom and China-Korea-Japan will demographically collapse, we will have to redraw Asian border and have and move China, Korea and Japan team in the same region (East Asia, as in GC), and letting more spot to Asean, but for the moment this is perfect as it is.
The fundamental concept of your theory revolves around the notion that Valorant has the potential to sustain a 20-year longevity.which is unlikely.
Unitimes [#69]No thank u, Pacific has just surpassed Europe, We don't want to be last anymore.
we? taiwan only has players on prc china teams. i dont think theres a single taiwanese in pacific. china literally reps u. u aint part of pacific as much as sadly aus isnt either lmfao
Because they have a population of 1 billion and their playerbase is estimated to be huge and can bring in massive viewership. It don't matter if they're ass as long as they have EDG going 5-6th every Internationals. They also have potential to improve, cause as we've seen they have the teamwork and the ideas, just lack experience and mental for it.
zhongZHI [#73]we? taiwan only has players on prc china teams. i dont think theres a single taiwanese in pacific. china literally reps u. u aint part of pacific as much as sadly aus isnt either lmfao
I don't care about nationality, I'm just a Pacific fan. My sole interest lies in the strength of the Pacific. That's all.
Technically speaking, Taiwan's Challenger League is in the Pacific region. u can check it. it call TW/HK, and they sucks. XD I don't think any Taiwanese team will win the ascension in the short term.
vreesey [#82]I mean I would say 4 is too many for any region, much less the weakest one, but i’m all for seeing new teams and players there. I find it exciting. Somehow SEN and LOUD will still end up in the same group
You know - I appreciate this take, and the fact that you actually gave a reason for why, whereas most people just shit on you for having a diff opinion without providing a reason. This is a healthy and good take though.
sentinelmain377 [#89]SA 1 Champions
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