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yay is not the issue

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#1
Goatified

this guy went all the way to APAC just for BLEED to stick him on viper when they have sScary?? one of the best vipers i’ve seen play. they made yay play viper 1st map then they put him on jett 2nd map? looked like he had no duelist confidence on icebox after playing slow viper.. #JUSTICEFORYAY

edit: he went to 15/7 on attack as jett btw

#2
Ullyr
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Nah chamber merchant mid on Jett. y0y

#3
brahianv
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its always the team fault not this bum y0y, always finding excuses for him

#4
goatdavid
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Yeah he flops in tier 2 - not his fault
Now he flops in apac tier 1 - not his fault again
Just accept that hes finished overrated chamber abusing fraud

#5
TheAceGamer30
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y0y

#6
n1cf
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no optic core no el shitablo

#7
Goatified
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goatdavid [#4]

Yeah he flops in tier 2 - not his fault
Now he flops in apac tier 1 - not his fault again
Just accept that hes finished overrated chamber abusing fraud

when i see him flop on a role he’s comfortable on with a team that’s not DSG i’ll accept it. i’m not gonna accept a forced viper & skye role switch as being washed 😭

#8
_nakuwul
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L diablo is always right blud he was horrible on jettt if you actually watched the map just one good round that was also an eco for GE. missed the easiest shots of all time

#9
SAMPV6
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yeah putting him on viper is a big "?" but his jett didn't look great either

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goatdavid
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Goatified [#7]

when i see him flop on a role he’s comfortable on with a team that’s not DSG i’ll accept it. i’m not gonna accept a forced viper & skye role switch as being washed 😭

Give me freedom give me fire give me broken chamber or i retire

#11
uwukitten
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goatdavid [#4]

Yeah he flops in tier 2 - not his fault
Now he flops in apac tier 1 - not his fault again
Just accept that hes finished overrated chamber abusing fraud

NA tier 2 and apac tier 1 are the same thing tbf

#12
hungeryman
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Goatified [#7]

when i see him flop on a role he’s comfortable on with a team that’s not DSG i’ll accept it. i’m not gonna accept a forced viper & skye role switch as being washed 😭

Go watch map 2 when he was on jett! Bro bottofragged 90 percent of the game, whiffed op shots, lost 1v1s and only fragged when the team was on eco

#13
Ballacks2
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His Jett is def mid but at least let the man try out his signature agent surely? Like ik bleed didn’t get him for his flexibility ☠️

#14
Goatified
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_nakuwul [#8]

L diablo is always right blud he was horrible on jettt if you actually watched the map just one good round that was also an eco for GE. missed the easiest shots of all time

he’s been forced on viper and skye for weeks. you could tell he wasn’t confident on jett first half then picked it up and went 15/7 on attack 😂

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brahianv
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Ballacks2 [#13]

His Jett is def mid but at least let the man try out his signature agent surely? Like ik bleed didn’t get him for his flexibility ☠️

maybe they did but who know man? they were gettin cooked scrims so this guy is more limited that bleed thought

#16
Astar
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he is part of the issue. it felt like hes out of the place on the team. they couldve played better with juicy

#17
Goatified
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Astar [#16]

he is part of the issue. it felt like hes out of the place on the team. they couldve played better with juicy

i agree but i feel like he’s out of place because of the role switch. why replace the main duelist (juicy) with another duelist player and put him on smokes?

#18
SkywardeX
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You are right he has proved himself more on the international stage with aggressive agents he's a type of players who will get you kills important kills if you are not even going to play him on his comfort roles then he's not going to have good game, those who watched the whole game will know this clip where yay was on b haven stairs defender side and it was smoked and yay knew there were enemies yet still he walked out and tried to get a kill that's aggressive play and if you think about it if he had a Jett a raze or chamber he would've peaked and instantly went back but he couldn't as a chamber this shows an anchor is not the type of play style yay has as he relies on his aim rather than utility.

#19
DelusionalNRGFan
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y0y

#20
flames-leleo
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You sound like the guys who say "it's not t0nz's fault,he's not the issue"

#21
bricky_
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Goatified [#7]

when i see him flop on a role he’s comfortable on with a team that’s not DSG i’ll accept it. i’m not gonna accept a forced viper & skye role switch as being washed 😭

Foreskin was moved from duelist to flex playing almost all agents last year but still its not his fault

#22
Goatified
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flames-leleo [#20]

You sound like the guys who say "it's not t0nz's fault,he's not the issue"

well tenz is still playing good so how does that make sense 😭

#23
flames-leleo
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Goatified [#22]

well tenz is still playing good so how does that make sense 😭

Beside the fact he's not playing good?

#24
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Goatified [#17]

i agree but i feel like he’s out of place because of the role switch. why replace the main duelist (juicy) with another duelist player and put him on smokes?

cuz yay's raze is so shite. juicy plays raze, sadly he isnt allowed to play since hes underage. juicy's agent pool is perfect for bleed.
i just dont understand why didnt they use yay on sentinels and switch deryeon to controller. might be trust issues.

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Goatified
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flames-leleo [#23]

Beside the fact he's not playing good?

🤫🤐 https://www.vlr.gg/286644/sentinels-vs-drx-afreecatv-valorant-league-winners-a

#26
flames-leleo
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Goatified [#25]

🤫🤐 https://www.vlr.gg/286644/sentinels-vs-drx-afreecatv-valorant-league-winners-a

If the off-season mattered anything even 100T would be a strong team in 2023
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Frags don't always mean that much, you can kill 3 and make horrible decisions right after that allow the enemy team to turn the situation in their favor

#27
brahianv
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Goatified [#17]

i agree but i feel like he’s out of place because of the role switch. why replace the main duelist (juicy) with another duelist player and put him on smokes?

why do you think y0y raze good at all? how many many raze games he played?

#28
Ballsamolee
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flames-leleo [#23]

Beside the fact he's not playing good?

He is playing good though? He just had a bad game on the 2nd map, but the first map was a masterclass.

#29
simo98
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In last map
It's always unfortunate for yay
I see he got shot true the smoke everytime

#30
Ballacks2
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brahianv [#15]

maybe they did but who know man? they were gettin cooked scrims so this guy is more limited that bleed thought

Yeah that is def the case but I just wanna see him play chamber one last time 😔

#31
Lura
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Goatified [#7]

when i see him flop on a role he’s comfortable on with a team that’s not DSG i’ll accept it. i’m not gonna accept a forced viper & skye role switch as being washed 😭

washed

#32
bruhahaha
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Goatified [#7]

when i see him flop on a role he’s comfortable on with a team that’s not DSG i’ll accept it. i’m not gonna accept a forced viper & skye role switch as being washed 😭

You play a VCT event at elimination on a role you're not comfortable with? Isn't that yay got worse, it's more of yay stayed the same and the rest of the field improved/adapted in terms of mechanics. His team overall played sloppy, including yay; sometimes his decisionmaking is very questionable, regardless of which role he was playing. You can't just get lurked on constantly and run directly into set plays and expect yay to get 3 everytime.

#33
Ballsamolee
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bruhahaha [#32]

You play a VCT event at elimination on a role you're not comfortable with? Isn't that yay got worse, it's more of yay stayed the same and the rest of the field improved/adapted in terms of mechanics. His team overall played sloppy, including yay; sometimes his decisionmaking is very questionable, regardless of which role he was playing. You can't just get lurked on constantly and run directly into set plays and expect yay to get 3 everytime.

no yay got worse. idk how to explain it, but his aim looks a bit off...

#34
capital_d_colon
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Seems like he has very low confidence.
On a new roster in a new region.
and has been unable to adapt to the new metas and role requirements that have been created post chamber meta.

The fault doesn't just lie with yay it lies with the whole team.
However you can't just absolve yay from being at fault.

#35
SaltyMcNulty
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flames-leleo [#26]

If the off-season mattered anything even 100T would be a strong team in 2023
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Frags don't always mean that much, you can kill 3 and make horrible decisions right after that allow the enemy team to turn the situation in their favor

He has the most impactful rounds against Loud on split. Stop talking out of ur ass LMAO. You are the ones whos looking at stats if u can't recognize that.

#36
SaltyMcNulty
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Ballsamolee [#28]

He is playing good though? He just had a bad game on the 2nd map, but the first map was a masterclass.

Not even a bad map. He was perma on B unable to do anything when zellsis died early. Killed the phoenix ult 3 times to stop hits, that doesn't show up on stats! On attack they just got smoked.

#37
melodymur
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FNS made y0y, his calling was the reason y0y could find easy frags, now is all over.

#38
Propenko
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and whenever Skrossi used to perform bad, people used to blame him instead of the management
I guess ya'll are y0y 🥩 riders

#39
Bonkbonk201
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anyone who says yay is washed off the information available just won't listen to logic and will just have personal bias' there's no point trying to change their mind

#40
bruhahaha
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Ballsamolee [#33]

no yay got worse. idk how to explain it, but his aim looks a bit off...

I don't find that it's all that different, but I think his confidence has been affected since other players have improved and they've gotten a bit more aware. yay was at his best when he was solo anchor holding the angle or flanking on chamber and a similar scenario with jett, where victor/yay shared some role on the T side playmaking. Now solo holding the angle is a lot tougher since they might throw util/jump peek you for info and then double swing you, esp if they've done their homework, which GE did.

#41
Joe_Bidet
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he went to 15/7 on attack as jett btw

but 2/10 on defence

#42
TM06Nick
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hungeryman [#12]

Go watch map 2 when he was on jett! Bro bottofragged 90 percent of the game, whiffed op shots, lost 1v1s and only fragged when the team was on eco

He was 15-7 on attack

#43
X6MCOMP
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flames-leleo [#26]

If the off-season mattered anything even 100T would be a strong team in 2023
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Frags don't always mean that much, you can kill 3 and make horrible decisions right after that allow the enemy team to turn the situation in their favor

tenz rarely misplays tbf, you rarely see tenz make a questionable plays that loses his team the round (not counting aggro tps lmao, but even those I think are good to limit test and see what he can and cant get away with)

#44
jamONE
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Called this out on the other thread when he was in DSG and now BLEED. Yay the type of guy who needs a whole support system around him to succeed. Teams and players evolved and got better. He's just not the same as he was before without Chamber. If you can't see that you're in denial. Obviously him playing on agents that wasn't his main role hurts him which he doesn't specialize in yet bleed put him on those. Can't expect miracles. Confidence also at an all time low i'm sure.

#45
Cyrett
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At this point, he's enjoying the fame he gained after riot's mistake in the chamber meta in 2022.

He dont has a special "game style" like pacific teams, he's not "that" aim king like Demon1, he also don't have perfect harmony with team members like succesful emea teams. He's the issue.

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