rn we can imagine a really good team with guild core
Leo
Sayf
trexx
kolda (if he igls good it's ok)
any sentinel
wdyt?
unknown_trash [#4]OMG i dont know how many times i have said this but guild plus twisten would have been unstoppable at champions 2022 and the whole team might have made it onto a franchising team. like 4 out of 5 of the players would have been insane fraggers. top 2 emea easily if this team stuck together.
The roster in hindsight is one of the best I've ever seen, but they never really did anything with it
V0sotros [#9]The roster in hindsight is one of the best I've ever seen, but they never really did anything with it
iirc.
Guild was going to have twisten for the LCQ, but riot/big prevented the move last minute.
They had been scrimming with twisten for the event aswell.
hence yacine coming in, he didnt perform well because he hadnt played.
the team then lost lcq.
sayf talking about it: https://youtu.be/WzI9k9rBUHM?t=82
CryoZanderDerrekEnjoyer [#7]if guild went into franchise and fnatic got cloud instead of leo we wouldve actually had 2 superteams
guild sentinel: nats
cracked
sheydos would be good too
capital_d_colon [#12]iirc.
Guild was going to have twisten for the LCQ, but riot/big prevented the move last minute.
They had been scrimming with twisten for the event aswell.hence yacine coming in, he didnt perform well because he hadnt played.
the team then lost lcq.sayf talking about it: https://youtu.be/WzI9k9rBUHM?t=82
guild with twisten would have been godly
capital_d_colon [#12]iirc.
Guild was going to have twisten for the LCQ, but riot/big prevented the move last minute.
They had been scrimming with twisten for the event aswell.hence yacine coming in, he didnt perform well because he hadnt played.
the team then lost lcq.sayf talking about it: https://youtu.be/WzI9k9rBUHM?t=82
eliminated by OG wtf, that sucks
Gqviria [#10]guild needed a better igl, Kolda couldnt do nothing havin Leo, Trexx, Sayf, imagine that.
he cant do nothing with koi too and he has sheydos trexx etc
south_america_best_region [#13]cracked
sheydos would be good too
youre right
fuck KOI lets steal trexx and sheydos and make liquid unstoppable
yaboikaladin [#19]the real Guild OGs remember trexx was brought on as a sentinel main and played cypher on their breeze before sayf jumped on the chamber and he played raze on entry, they could have brought on either a sentinel or a flex to replace Russ, trexx could do both.
guild had a HUGE agent pool. sayf has played skye and other initiators, cypher, kj, chamber, jett, raze, neon (idk about this one). trexx has played some sova, cypher, kj, raze, kayo and he can op. leo mastered every initiator and pops off on sage. that many agents played at a really high level made them very flexible as a trio. i wish them three at least stayed together...
unknown_trash [#21]guild had a HUGE agent pool. sayf has played skye and other initiators, cypher, kj, chamber, jett, raze, neon (idk about this one). trexx has played some sova, cypher, kj, raze, kayo and he can op. leo mastered every initiator and pops off on sage. that many agents played at a really high level made them very flexible as a trio. i wish them three at least stayed together...
trexx wasn't very good on the op tho, he failed really hard during their first run at qualifying to Reykjavik when he was put on chamber, and sayf was just okay on the other sentinels besides chamber. trexx was pretty flexible, and sayf was really good on the duelist/chamber role, and obvi we all know that Leo can play any initiator the best rn. kolda was just a shit IGL honestly, whenever you watched a Guild game he would run the clock down to the last 10 seconds without taking a single bit of space, and then just mass up and entry on sites, with no info whatsoever most of the game. it was pretty much the individual skill of leo, trexx and sayf that got that team to events, just like with Koi's run at LCQ with sheydos, trexx and starxo.
yaboikaladin [#22]trexx wasn't very good on the op tho, he failed really hard during their first run at qualifying to Reykjavik when he was put on chamber, and sayf was just okay on the other sentinels besides chamber. trexx was pretty flexible, and sayf was really good on the duelist/chamber role, and obvi we all know that Leo can play any initiator the best rn. kolda was just a shit IGL honestly, whenever you watched a Guild game he would run the clock down to the last 10 seconds without taking a single bit of space, and then just mass up and entry on sites, with no info whatsoever most of the game. it was pretty much the individual skill of leo, trexx and sayf that got that team to events, just like with Koi's run at LCQ with sheydos, trexx and starxo.
i disagree about the trexx op bit. when put on jett a couple of times, he was really good although i definitely agree that sayf op is much better than trexx. but yeah koldamenta has a very predictable way of igling but he is able to bring out the best in his players no matter how badly they are losing.
capital_d_colon [#12]iirc.
Guild was going to have twisten for the LCQ, but riot/big prevented the move last minute.
They had been scrimming with twisten for the event aswell.hence yacine coming in, he didnt perform well because he hadnt played.
the team then lost lcq.sayf talking about it: https://youtu.be/WzI9k9rBUHM?t=82
i think riot denied it. guild already had an agreement with BIG
unknown_trash [#23]i disagree about the trexx op bit. when put on jett a couple of times, he was really good although i definitely agree that sayf op is much better than trexx. but yeah koldamenta has a very predictable way of igling but he is able to bring out the best in his players no matter how badly they are losing.
trexx op was ok on jett, but he's nowhere near as good as sayf on either jett or chamber tho so it doesn't make much sense, and sayf has always been kinda mid on the sentinel roles besides chamber. i mean, it's tough to say that when kolda has never had pretty much any success as an IGL to a large degree. G2 got 13-0'ed by Gambit after beating a dying Sentinels, Guild got one win over Optic in groups and then got shit on by PRX and FPX, and then Koi has done literally nothing of note. Like, he's not an awful IGL, but for the quality of players he has had under his lead he clearly is just not good enough.
Pengu12 [#26]Kolda is actually overrated af, if guild had boaster they prolly win a major last year
yeah idk what the kolda dick sucking is sometimes, the guy has never done any impressive IGLing in his valo career.
destroylonely [#2]would get grouped
they did very good for their situation in 2022:
missed reykjavik 2022 (lost to M3C and TL) (wasnt the best but was top 6 emea (when emea was crazy dominant region)
attended copenhagen and got 7th (were probably the 3rd or 4th best of the tournament. 2-0'd Optic, 2-1'd KRU, 0-2 PRX, 1-2 FPX) (they only lost to the finalists FPX and PRX😱😱😱)
They had a sub in lcq (yacine) so unlucky situation for them to get to champions. they were going to have twisten in lcq and scrimmed with him for 2ish weeks until Riot told Guild that they didnt allow Twisten to play with guild since Twisten was in BIG a day or 2 before lcq. Then they had to find emergency sub of Yacine.........
south_america_best_region [#15]eliminated by OG wtf, that sucks
19-17 breeze game
Sayf 1v4 in there too lol
also that was OGLU's first good event (they beat G2)
sentinelmain377 [#28]Edit: I just realized. this is a TL fix thread :skull:
peak game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u57x1bFCerM
they did very good for their situation in 2022:
missed reykjavik 2022 (lost to M3C and TL) (wasnt the best but was top 6 emea (when emea was crazy dominant region)
attended copenhagen and got 7th (were probably the 3rd or 4th best of the tournament. 2-0'd Optic, 2-1'd KRU, 0-2 PRX, 1-2 FPX) (they only lost to the finalists FPX and PRX😱😱😱)
They had a sub in lcq (yacine) so unlucky situation for them to get to champions. they were going to have twisten in lcq and scrimmed with him for 2ish weeks until Riot told Guild that they didnt allow Twisten to play with guild since Twisten was in BIG a day or 2 before lcq. Then they had to find emergency sub of Yacine.........
allat
destroylonely [#30]allat
yeah
maybe i shouldnt be talking to some new 2023 user that has only seen like 5 good teams this year KEKW
sentinelmain377 [#29]19-17 breeze game
Sayf 1v4 in there too lol
also that was OGLU's first good event (they beat G2)
yeah i remember, good days
yaboikaladin [#25]trexx op was ok on jett, but he's nowhere near as good as sayf on either jett or chamber tho so it doesn't make much sense, and sayf has always been kinda mid on the sentinel roles besides chamber. i mean, it's tough to say that when kolda has never had pretty much any success as an IGL to a large degree. G2 got 13-0'ed by Gambit after beating a dying Sentinels, Guild got one win over Optic in groups and then got shit on by PRX and FPX, and then Koi has done literally nothing of note. Like, he's not an awful IGL, but for the quality of players he has had under his lead he clearly is just not good enough.
Idk what koldamenta does to igl honestly, but it seemed to work since he took 3 completely different rosters very far. Did he get lucky three times in a row with really good players that carried him? A lot of EU pros have praised koldamentas igling but everyone on vlr hates him. I'm not sure what to believe about him...
sentinelmain377 [#28]Edit: I just realized. this is a TL fix thread :skull:
peak game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u57x1bFCerM
they did very good for their situation in 2022:
missed reykjavik 2022 (lost to M3C and TL) (wasnt the best but was top 6 emea (when emea was crazy dominant region)
attended copenhagen and got 7th (were probably the 3rd or 4th best of the tournament. 2-0'd Optic, 2-1'd KRU, 0-2 PRX, 1-2 FPX) (they only lost to the finalists FPX and PRX😱😱😱)
They had a sub in lcq (yacine) so unlucky situation for them to get to champions. they were going to have twisten in lcq and scrimmed with him for 2ish weeks until Riot told Guild that they didnt allow Twisten to play with guild since Twisten was in BIG a day or 2 before lcq. Then they had to find emergency sub of Yacine.........
BIG? i dont see tabsen and syrson here nt
TheAqif [#37]cool and all but there is 0 chance fnatic is letting go of leo
he is their best player, this is just a "what if" scenario
_Esdeath_ [#38]he is their best player, this is just a "what if" scenario
oh yeah then defo this team would at least get to the finals of any event
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feaN [#16]he cant do nothing with koi too and he has sheydos trexx etc
Kolda is on KOI as their token Spanish player (like Mixwell on Heretics, at least Fit1nho is a good player)
moshimoshiman24 [#11]all i remember from guild is yaccine and russ griefing the team
Yacine was pretty much an emergency substitute (because Riot put a lock on Twisten with whom they practiced) so I don't blame him. Russ was always the clear weakest link though.
sentinelmain377 [#28]Edit: I just realized. this is a TL fix thread :skull:
peak game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u57x1bFCerM
they did very good for their situation in 2022:
missed reykjavik 2022 (lost to M3C and TL) (wasnt the best but was top 6 emea (when emea was crazy dominant region)
attended copenhagen and got 7th (were probably the 3rd or 4th best of the tournament. 2-0'd Optic, 2-1'd KRU, 0-2 PRX, 1-2 FPX) (they only lost to the finalists FPX and PRX😱😱😱)
They had a sub in lcq (yacine) so unlucky situation for them to get to champions. they were going to have twisten in lcq and scrimmed with him for 2ish weeks until Riot told Guild that they didnt allow Twisten to play with guild since Twisten was in BIG a day or 2 before lcq. Then they had to find emergency sub of Yacine.........
sayf on permanent chamber and twisten on flex/duelist would´ve been the strongest duo fr
unknown_trash [#33]Idk what koldamenta does to igl honestly, but it seemed to work since he took 3 completely different rosters very far. Did he get lucky three times in a row with really good players that carried him? A lot of EU pros have praised koldamentas igling but everyone on vlr hates him. I'm not sure what to believe about him...
again with the quality of his players, he probably should have a trophy by now! like he had leo, trexx and sayf, how do you not have three of the best EMEA players this year and not at least get a pedestal finish. now he's got sheydos, trexx, and starxo - two trophy holders and his best player last year. if he was a good IGL they wouldn't have gone 1-8 during the regular season. they even lost to KCorp bro. I'm sorry, it's just silly.
sentinelmain377 [#31]yeah
maybe i shouldnt be talking to some new 2023 user that has only seen like 5 good teams this year KEKW
been watching since 2021