Ohhh my bad i think i mispoke, i know that adverso was a HUGE part of the decision making in Leviatan 2022 and before, but i THINK Kinggg was IGL in 2022, but either way Kinggg only played raze so if we count him, then we have to count shahz

kinggg was not igling pre franchising

Nzr was kicked by hiw own teammates (Mazino and Kinggg) on Christmas eve, literally backstabbed.

Crazy that 99% of the names in this thread are International winners.

Each year people make the same thread about someome who won a tittle, lets wait to see who's consistent.

Mako has seen the rise and fall of pAncada, Marved, Jawg/Demon1 and he is still there being a top controller.

Americas*

Keep coping my guy

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So far EMEA has gotten Top 4 playing against China and themselves, top 6 playing against CN, Lev and themselves and top 8 by playing against themselves.

They are a good team, but as of now they have not beaten a non chinese team

Its always the ones that cry cause of odin

No better argument than insulting my flair? EMEA cant even win on VLR

I agree they deserve to celebrate every win they get, after all they dont get as many.

I was dizzing on EMEA for only beating china but Leviatan is fucking awful, how can you lose against FUT

We are trying to have good teams bro

And yet you cannot argue against my post cause it's true

Out of the 14 matches EMEA has played internationally this year, they've won 6 of them, out of those 6 wins, 5 were against chinese teams.

China is literally giving away wins to EMEA.

Lev is not NA

When did Mako IGLed?

K1ng is, according to some People, difficult to work with.

Also People have stated he cannot communicate in english nor wants to.

I mean, you can read, so in the top you can see the tittle and i am hoping you can figure it out with that, if not i'll draw it for you

That's why i also included the second stats my dude.

And not counting fnatic still show that 9 out of 10 emea teams havent been able to replicate Fnatic's success

And i ain't talking about trohpies.

What? I dont even get what you are saying bro.

I am colombian, i support KRU with all my heart, but the stats shows the NA vs EMEA "rivalry" as its always been like that

I know, and they are the team proving that new players can be great.

I am still not a fan of Neilzinho, guy has done nothing in valorant and is even known that Weber (AC) is the one managing all their strat side, so he brings pretty much nothing to the team

I mean they can do whatever they want, i am a NA fan all the way, but it's just the truth, just like when in champs 2021 we were an embarrasment.

If we dont count Fnatic, EMEA last victory against NA was Champs 2022 (FPX v XSET) 603 days ago

If we count fnatic, EMEA last victory against NA was Tokyo (Fnatic vs EG) 334 days ago.

Being objectively and not hating on any region, this is an insane stats and it shows how much EMEA really need to get their shit together, stop recycling players and start getting some good coaches.

And Patitek was on point with utility usage.

And the fact that Wo0t wasnt on point in the first 2 wouldnt mean he was gonna throw on Split.

It would definitely make a difference, maybe not to win, but they way G2 won was embarrasing for TH, and i know pati is a very good player but Wo0t is literally CRAZY on duelist.

1V4 BUT YEAH

THE FREAKING PROFESSOR

Neilzinho must be crazy to even think about putting Pati in Raze instead of Wo0t

Benjy is getting fucked in his playground tho

Keep crying

Why is boostio the one to eat their words? FUT also said china wasnt gonna pass swift stage and look at them

Tex literally won Ascension.

Bro called tex a rookie

Does he know?

Last team to get 0-13'd by a Brazilian team ended up winning champs.

Initiator*

Doesnt mean i am wrong.

So you have to lie in order to be polite and be respectful? Kinggg has never been a good IGL and has been said multiple times by different people in the scene, guy is great player but was forced into an IGL role which he doesnt seem to be doing good, just look at the last year, he got completely outplayed cause he didnt have any midrounding whatsoever

Onur JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAHAJAHAHAJAJAJAJAJAJA

Bro thinks Kinggg is a good IGL

I mean, to be fair, GenG literally changed everything except for meteor. And even Elmapuddy said the problem was the language barrier (He was coaching with a translator)

And in this case i can't defend him but we have to keep in mind that Mini is still in the team and Boaster has so much decision making in the team.

does he know?

hence why i mentioned "Duelist/aggro initiator".

PS: If you run it down with KJ, you are not a sentinel either.

I follow Jawgemos way before he joined EG in 2022, he has always been a duelist player, but if you count the mix he has played in and small torunaments, everyone would seem like a flex.

Zellsis on V1 was the second duelist/flex. Zekken was a second entry (even with sova) and Victor as i said it's the only exception but still, he has always been a entry/aggro player.

Did you see how he played Sova? he was always the second entry, he wasnt a full support sova like Sacy

technically Zellsis is a flex player, Zekken has always been a duelist/aggro initiator, Jawg always a duelist and picked up smokes on EG.

Victor might be the only one that i agree BUT he has always had the same aggro type of playstyle.

I do not agree with OP saying Seven is bad, cause he is not, but the role switching everytime he enters a team might not tbe the best decision, even if it's not his fault.