A lot of people creating imaginary superteams in this forum but have failed to realise that player talent pool outside of emea is simply just too little to create any team close to that of fnatic 🥱
trembolonaRage [#5]Saadhak took 3 unknown kids and made them a contender (they were much better than fnatic in that bo3 btw)
Everything is possible, you just need discipline
And it’s easier to teach a kid than a player like mixwell for example
Sorry but Saadork made a mistake picking up pooyz and l0ss is not winning anything without sacy fixing his toxic mentality of his
trembolonaRage [#5]Saadhak took 3 unknown kids and made them a contender (they were much better than fnatic in that bo3 btw)
Everything is possible, you just need discipline
And it’s easier to teach a kid than a player like mixwell for example
Wow I agree
yawnster [#7]Sorry but Saadork made a mistake picking up pooyz and l0ss is not winning anything without sacy fixing his toxic mentality of his
Wasnt boaster an absolute dumbo before chronicle?? If they were allowed to have time why can’t tuyz?? Also Tuyz is a way better controller than botser
Schizophrenic_Brazil_Fan [#10]Wasnt boaster an absolute dumbo before chronicle?? If they were allowed to have time why can’t tuyz?? Also Tuyz is a way better controller than botser
atleast we know b0tster aint missing the easiest shots of his life😹
trembolonaRage [#5]Saadhak took 3 unknown kids and made them a contender (they were much better than fnatic in that bo3 btw)
Everything is possible, you just need discipline
And it’s easier to teach a kid than a player like mixwell for example
Tuyz, Cauanzin and Saadhak were 3 of the bottom 6 players at Tokyo by rating
Liem [#14]Optic clears fnatic
In the current meta they wouldn’t even get 13 rounds across 2 maps without chamber yay is just a great duelist that’s it not the best ir even in the conversation alongside derke and aspas and the 3 optic core members got defeated by prx without something and just torn apart by fnatic on the map they are supposed to be the best in the world on
The only person in the current meta that can keep up with fnatic is marved
Crashies once again struggled against Leo just like when he faced him last year when Leo was on guild
Victor struggled against chronicle again just like Berlin and was putting up much lower numbers despite him playing duelist both maps
Fns is on par with boaster in terms of igling but his fragging power is less and even more inconsisten than boaster
Like I said yay without chamber can’t keep up with derke consistently maybe every once in awhile but not all the time
And marved is only equal to alfajer at most and he is the best player in the current meta from that optic team
bonkashi [#12]Tuyz, Cauanzin and Saadhak were 3 of the bottom 6 players at Tokyo by rating
yeah ignore the 2nd place at lockin and 1st place americas
and just judge the players based on their worst tournament
incredible
shizuku_hajime [#15]In the current meta they wouldn’t even get 13 rounds across 2 maps without chamber yay is just a great duelist that’s it not the best ir even in the conversation alongside derke and aspas and the 3 optic core members got defeated by prx without something and just torn apart by fnatic on the map they are supposed to be the best in the world on
The only person in the current meta that can keep up with fnatic is marved
Crashies once again struggled against Leo just like when he faced him last year when Leo was on guild
Victor struggled against chronicle again just like Berlin and was putting up much lower numbers despite him playing duelist both maps
Fns is on par with boaster in terms of igling but his fragging power is less and even more inconsisten than boaster
Like I said yay without chamber can’t keep up with derke consistently maybe every once in awhile but not all the time
And marved is only equal to alfajer at most and he is the best player in the current meta from that optic team
Agree but ain't reading allat
inlucid [#16]yeah ignore the 2nd place at lockin and 1st place americas
and just judge the players based on their worst tournament
incredible
No point in arguing with br*ts they have one good player 😂
inlucid [#16]yeah ignore the 2nd place at lockin and 1st place americas
and just judge the players based on their worst tournament
incredible
Americas farmer region doesn't count half the teams can barely shoot back
And I thought it was you coping brazilians that said lockin was a fraud tournament and meant nothing that FNC won, let alone that Loud came second
Keep twisting the narrative to suit you when it suits you bot
EU_quiet [#19]No point in arguing with br*ts they have one good player 😂
for being the loudest region on this site by far Amerifrauds really don't have much to back it up with huh?
bonkashi [#21]for being the loudest region on this site by far Amerifrauds really don't have much to back it up with huh?
Name one player in franchising that’s British and doesn’t have ascendant mechanics
bonkashi [#20]Americas farmer region doesn't count half the teams can barely shoot back
And I thought it was you coping brazilians that said lockin was a fraud tournament and meant nothing that FNC won, let alone that Loud came second
Keep twisting the narrative to suit you when it suits you bot
fraud tournament or not, tuyz and cauanzin still made a grand-finals on their first tournament with almost 0 international experience, barely beating FNC
that's the point, you don't need to pick the best proven and experienced players to be able to contend for titles, just like aspas and Less weren't the best duelist/sentinel in brazil before joining LOUD
moshimoshiman24 [#23]u can build one in NA if u wanted to but players got huge ass egos regarding who they play with. Most ppl just wanna play with their friends.
Cough cough fns cough S0m cough
EU_quiet [#22]Name one player in franchising that’s British and doesn’t have ascendant mechanics
name one NA trophy that wasn't obtained in a fraudulent tournament
inlucid [#24]fraud tournament or not, tuyz and cauanzin still made a grand-finals on their first tournament with almost 0 international experience, barely beating FNC
that's the point, you don't need to pick the best proven and experienced players to be able to contend for titles, just like aspas and Less weren't the best duelist/sentinel in brazil before joining LOUD
being the "best duelist/sentinel in brazil" really aint something to brag about imma book my gran a plane ticket over there to become the best its so free
yawnster [#25]Cough cough fns cough S0m cough
lmao that aint even that bad, dephh going to sen bc he was with sykko on xset. bruh dephh was one of the worst igl last year. crashies and victor basically being a package deal even tho victor is inconsistent asf and there r better flex players in na. eg still having cum bc he was there last year even tho trent is clearly better then that mf. istg there is so much more ex but my golf size brain cant think of anymore.
yawnster [#7]Sorry but Saadork made a mistake picking up pooyz and l0ss is not winning anything without sacy fixing his toxic mentality of his
Saadork ☠️
bonkashi [#27]name one NA trophy that wasn't obtained in a fraudulent tournament
You didn't answer his question tho.
bonkashi [#27]name one NA trophy that wasn't obtained in a fraudulent tournament
you still didn't answer the question...
Also, you are saying that optic's win was a fraudulent tournament? The team that placed consistent top 2? L take
bonkashi [#20]Americas farmer region doesn't count half the teams can barely shoot back
And I thought it was you coping brazilians that said lockin was a fraud tournament and meant nothing that FNC won, let alone that Loud came second
Keep twisting the narrative to suit you when it suits you bot
Calls Americas bots... which pro is British? None... only I know is dephh which is absolutely dog at the game. Dog country, dog take.
bonkashi [#20]Americas farmer region doesn't count half the teams can barely shoot back
And I thought it was you coping brazilians that said lockin was a fraud tournament and meant nothing that FNC won, let alone that Loud came second
Keep twisting the narrative to suit you when it suits you bot
"farmer's region"
meanwhile EU:
Americas:
Klick1108 [#37]"farmer's region"
meanwhile EU:
- 4th place team= bottom of Tokyo
- 3rd place team= bottom of Tokyo
- 1st place team= middle of Tokyo
- 2nd place team= first in Tokyo
Americas:
- 1st place team= bottom of Tokyo (clearly not trying... they literally chose neon)
- 2nd place team= top 4 of Tokyo
- 3rd place team= top 2 of Tokyo
responses like this are what makes baiting worth it
yawnster [#25]Cough cough fns cough S0m cough
s0m carrying NRG... on smokes...
classic yawnster, not doing research before commenting
EU_quiet [#22]Name one player in franchising that’s British and doesn’t have ascendant mechanics
ardiis boaster soulcas
Klick1108 [#37]"farmer's region"
meanwhile EU:
- 4th place team= bottom of Tokyo
- 3rd place team= bottom of Tokyo
- 1st place team= middle of Tokyo
- 2nd place team= first in Tokyo
Americas:
- 1st place team= bottom of Tokyo (clearly not trying... they literally chose neon)
- 2nd place team= top 4 of Tokyo
- 3rd place team= top 2 of Tokyo
"Clearly not even trying at a major" is crazy cope
Otherwise agree but the levels of play are closer in the middle of the pack teams, not very far apart and it's completely up to map picks and who shows up. LOUD is very respectable for their past achievements but they played incredibly poorly this time.
bruhahaha [#43]"Clearly not even trying at a major" is crazy cope
Otherwise agree but the levels of play are closer in the middle of the pack teams, not very far apart and it's completely up to map picks and who shows up. LOUD is very respectable for their past achievements but they played incredibly poorly this time.
I'm not a Loud fan by any means, and I dont really like them. From this tourney you could tell that they didn't seem to care. They laughed in interviews, looked bored, and yawned during games. Only Less seemed to care from the gameplay.
Not 100% certain, but I think that by being eliminated early, they could focus more for champs, conceal their strats, come up with new strats, etc.
Ig we'll see if they are just bad at champs soon.
Klick1108 [#36]Calls Americas bots... which pro is British? None... only I know is dephh which is absolutely dog at the game. Dog country, dog take.
there are 4 in T1 bud who are good. I just don' think you watch any valorant esports if you can only name 1.
Klick1108 [#47]I'm not a Loud fan by any means, and I dont really like them. From this tourney you could tell that they didn't seem to care. They laughed in interviews, looked bored, and yawned during games. Only Less seemed to care from the gameplay.
Not 100% certain, but I think that by being eliminated early, they could focus more for champs, conceal their strats, come up with new strats, etc.
Ig we'll see if they are just bad at champs soon.
nice cope
trembolonaRage [#5]Saadhak took 3 unknown kids and made them a contender (they were much better than fnatic in that bo3 btw)
Everything is possible, you just need discipline
And it’s easier to teach a kid than a player like mixwell for example
took me more than a year, but finally i agree with you in something: discipline.
Zerphyr1 [#48]there are 4 in T1 bud who are good. I just don' think you watch any valorant esports if you can only name 1.
nah, I just don't remember where players are from cuz it's irrelevant af. Maybe they don't watch Americas regional games if they say that we are a farmers region that doesn't shoot back? Idk what ur waffling about when it goes both ways to not only me, but also to bonkashi
babushka_boii95 [#11]atleast we know b0tster aint missing the easiest shots of his life😹
he has tho
trembolonaRage [#5]Saadhak took 3 unknown kids and made them a contender (they were much better than fnatic in that bo3 btw)
Everything is possible, you just need discipline
And it’s easier to teach a kid than a player like mixwell for example
that's called ' building from scratch' super team is picking the best available players
Zerphyr1 [#49]nice cope
yawn, not even cope. I said we'll see lil bro. Just sit there and watch.
Maybe you don't watch enough Loud games to know when they are throwing or when they are trying.
Klick1108 [#47]I'm not a Loud fan by any means, and I dont really like them. From this tourney you could tell that they didn't seem to care. They laughed in interviews, looked bored, and yawned during games. Only Less seemed to care from the gameplay.
Not 100% certain, but I think that by being eliminated early, they could focus more for champs, conceal their strats, come up with new strats, etc.
Ig we'll see if they are just bad at champs soon.
You don't just throw a major like that with two guys hungry for the trophy to save strats. I agree they played off though and should've been closer if they hit the shots they were meant to hit and I do think they'll bounce back with such a bad result but imo it shows the quality of the other teams at Masters are closer to LOUD's level or above. It's hard to say by champs but I think they aren't really indisputably top 2 anymore, we saw EG and PRX have excellent levels of play and EDG/TL/NRG could be hot on their heels.