aren't they like literally an americas superteam? like on paper they have had peaks better than all the individuals on fnatic other than maybe chronicle, if it wasnt for the horrible management and if they had the current roster earlier on and gave them time and helped them build chemistry then it couldve been better for their season and they are actually like americas last hope, if they dont make a run at lcq and go to champs then fnc or another emea team will take champs and cmon its fnatic even if they have a bad strategic side they will more than make up for it with their firepower
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sentinels and nrg are the closest to americas’ superteams that we can get. the issue with sentinels is that they don’t have a distinguished igl (although this worked for prx) and nrg don’t really have a star jett player (ardiis is close but not at the same level as other world class jetts). i think sentinels has a good shot at lcq and nrg is bound to bounce back stronger at champs. tokyo reminded me of copenhagen for them, played horribly and managed to sneak through with a 4th place.
dexter000111 [#3]Don't worry 100T is NA's last hope they will save NA
100T is Sentinels first body on their way to a deep champs run.
Manaphy [#7]100T is Sentinels first body on their way to a deep champs run.
Sentinels is 100T's first body on their way to a deep champs run.
There fixed it
aylez [#6]sentinels and nrg are the closest to americas’ superteams that we can get. the issue with sentinels is that they don’t have a distinguished igl (although this worked for prx) and nrg don’t really have a star jett player (ardiis is close but not at the same level as other world class jetts). i think sentinels has a good shot at lcq and nrg is bound to bounce back stronger at champs. tokyo reminded me of copenhagen for them, played horribly and managed to sneak through with a 4th place.
NRG is a superteam in disrepair. OpTic was the OG superteam
Waking_W [#4]If sen dont win lcq now, idk how their fans will cope, before it was practise time but now they had it.
this team should be THE TEAM that can compete with fnatic and even with proper prac if they cant live up to even 50% of their expectations then disband and go next
dexter000111 [#9]Sentinels is 100T's first body on their way to a deep champs run.
There fixed it
Wait a second you copied me. :(
aylez [#6]sentinels and nrg are the closest to americas’ superteams that we can get. the issue with sentinels is that they don’t have a distinguished igl (although this worked for prx) and nrg don’t really have a star jett player (ardiis is close but not at the same level as other world class jetts). i think sentinels has a good shot at lcq and nrg is bound to bounce back stronger at champs. tokyo reminded me of copenhagen for them, played horribly and managed to sneak through with a 4th place.
NRG doesnt have an X factor imo, ardiis is good but he barely has those games where he goes absolutely insane and carries them a map or two like how yay did even with jett so that could limit them
BrotherMan [#8]no team with d0phh can be called a superteam
they dont have dephh anymore tho lmaooo
noxx [#14]they dont have dephh anymore tho lmaooo
they've only played 2 games without dephh i think, so lets see how they do in lcq
noxx [#11]this team should be THE TEAM that can compete with fnatic and even with proper prac if they cant live up to even 50% of their expectations then disband and go next
Real
BrotherMan [#15]they've only played 2 games without dephh i think, so lets see how they do in lcq
Pretty sure dephh isnt even part of roster anymore lmao
geometrix [#2]Keep firing your coach and see what it does to your team kekw
Better than firing players after 1 game
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noxx [#13]NRG doesnt have an X factor imo, ardiis is good but he barely has those games where he goes absolutely insane and carries them a map or two like how yay did even with jett so that could limit them
Finesse solos X Factor and Simon Cowell wdym
Difference between fnatic and sentinels is this:
Leo best player on guild
Chronicle best player on m3c/gambit
Alfajer top 2 on fnatic
Derke best player on fnatic
Boaster reputable igl and brought fnatic far many times
Now look at sentinels:
Sacy a very good side player to aspas and set him up greatly
Pancada very underrated on controller but the role switch and we haven’t seen him the same
Marved undisputed top 2 on Optic core
Zekken 2nd best on XSET
TenZ best on SEN
Dephh a decently proven igl (5th-6th in champs) doable but very risky to entrust the role to.
Now here’s the problem:
Sykko Head Coach of Sentinels while the best achievement he’s had is 5th/6th and relied on building up rosters, he’d be better on teams with up comer players than champion contending, Kaplan new head coach that didn’t even make NA LCQ…
This is not americas super team, instead of a failure from upper management, sentinels could’ve been truly great if they invested into coaching staff. Not blaming dephh because runi did not make it to challengers even but with the help of mCe who is proven to be able to make lans and foster great talent, created him into something.
Hypno [#16]if fnatic win champs as well its over
joever for everyone, everybody will be playing for 2nd place in 2024 if fnc win champs
Asokra [#23]Difference between fnatic and sentinels is this:
Leo best player on guild
Chronicle best player on m3c/gambit
Alfajer top 2 on fnatic
Derke best player on fnatic
Boaster reputable igl and brought fnatic far many timesNow look at sentinels:
Sacy a very good side player to aspas and set him up greatly
Pancada very underrated on controller but the role switch and we haven’t seen him the same
Marved undisputed top 2 on Optic core
Zekken 2nd best on XSET
TenZ best on SEN
Dephh a decently proven igl (5th-6th in champs) doable but very risky to entrust the role to.Now here’s the problem:
Sykko Head Coach of Sentinels while the best achievement he’s had is 5th/6th and relied on building up rosters, he’d be better on teams with up comer players than champion contending, Kaplan new head coach that didn’t even make NA LCQ…This is not americas super team, instead of a failure from upper management, sentinels could’ve been truly great if they invested into coaching staff. Not blaming dephh because runi did not make it to challengers even but with the help of mCe who is proven to be able to make lans and foster great talent, created him into something.
nice copypasta but internet explorer moment
BrotherMan [#15]they've only played 2 games without dephh i think, so lets see how they do in lcq
Reminder that they won both games
YeaUrMum [#21]Better than firing players after 1 game
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shouldve responded to the guy below you 💀💀💀⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️
CanadianLegend [#29]Sentinels will show the world, I promise you.
i hope they dont show the world that they can shit the bed with some of the best players to ever touch the game
dexter000111 [#3]Don't worry 100T is NA's last hope they will save NA
100T cant even save themselves from getting knifed
noxx [#30]i hope they dont show the world that they can shit the bed with some of the best players to ever touch the game
Nah bro they gonna repeat 2021 Ice🥶
CanadianLegend [#32]Nah bro they gonna repeat 2021 Ice🥶
ice man, 2 iceland winners and 2 champs winners SURELY we get to champions 2023..... right?
Asokra [#23]Difference between fnatic and sentinels is this:
Leo best player on guild
Chronicle best player on m3c/gambit
Alfajer top 2 on fnatic
Derke best player on fnatic
Boaster reputable igl and brought fnatic far many timesNow look at sentinels:
Sacy a very good side player to aspas and set him up greatly
Pancada very underrated on controller but the role switch and we haven’t seen him the same
Marved undisputed top 2 on Optic core
Zekken 2nd best on XSET
TenZ best on SEN
Dephh a decently proven igl (5th-6th in champs) doable but very risky to entrust the role to.Now here’s the problem:
Sykko Head Coach of Sentinels while the best achievement he’s had is 5th/6th and relied on building up rosters, he’d be better on teams with up comer players than champion contending, Kaplan new head coach that didn’t even make NA LCQ…This is not americas super team, instead of a failure from upper management, sentinels could’ve been truly great if they invested into coaching staff. Not blaming dephh because runi did not make it to challengers even but with the help of mCe who is proven to be able to make lans and foster great talent, created him into something.
why don't people understand that dephhh is not an igl. Ayrin was the igl of xset and dephhh was the worst player in xset
I don't know how SEN could sign him, he doesn't have firepower and he's not a good igl
TIME_TRAVELER_69 [#34]why don't people understand that dephhh is not an igl. Ayrin was the igl of xset and dephhh was the worst player in xset
I don't know how SEN could sign him, he doesn't have firepower and he's not a good igl
both complimented each other well, nobody was better than the other. ayrin is struggling and dephh was struggling too
noxx [#27]nobody has broken his iceland record yet and even if people say "thats coz people werent good back then" it doesnt mean shit coz tenz didnt have an unfair advantage or anything, a best player will be a best player only if the team is at a top level, look at aspas or derke in the past or yay (prime example), whenever their team struggles consistently and looks shaky it will cause the star players in the team to struggle too and when sen went downhill so did tenz but hes showing glimmers of hope and if he gets in form for lcq then they are almost guaranteed to make it to champs
So true people try to undermine Tenz's achievement by saying that Reykjavik was not a top level competition but everyone had the same equal ground
noxx [#27]nobody has broken his iceland record yet and even if people say "thats coz people werent good back then" it doesnt mean shit coz tenz didnt have an unfair advantage or anything, a best player will be a best player only if the team is at a top level, look at aspas or derke in the past or yay (prime example), whenever their team struggles consistently and looks shaky it will cause the star players in the team to struggle too and when sen went downhill so did tenz but hes showing glimmers of hope and if he gets in form for lcq then they are almost guaranteed to make it to champs
this, TenZ at his prime was almost unkillable, and back then he played reyna jett AND raze at the highest level.
People tend to forget that every one of their 'goat' duelist has been playing since 2021, they weren't good enough back then to play on the big stage so we forget, TenZ hasn't become worse, people have just learned to play better than him, hope he gets his redemption arc this LCQ run
on paper sen is the superteam but they keep making roster moves after 1 lost. Like no team is gonna have any chem when that happens. If u want the NA superteam then u do this smokes-marved, flex-zekken, igl-fenis, jett-yay, intiator- crashies. Now that obviously aint happening bc in NA org care about money and wont let ppl go if they already signed. Also players in na got huge ass egos about who they play with so crashies aint playing without food.
moshimoshiman24 [#40]on paper sen is the superteam but they keep making roster moves after 1 lost. Like no team is gonna have any chem when that happens. If u want the NA superteam then u do this smokes-marved, flex-zekken, igl-fenis, jett-yay, intiator- crashies. Now that obviously aint happening bc in NA org care about money and wont let ppl go if they already signed. Also players in na got huge ass egos about who they play with so crashies aint playing without food.
not an ego i think, they've just been together since forever
would you leave your best bro out to dry
moshimoshiman24 [#40]on paper sen is the superteam but they keep making roster moves after 1 lost. Like no team is gonna have any chem when that happens. If u want the NA superteam then u do this smokes-marved, flex-zekken, igl-fenis, jett-yay, intiator- crashies. Now that obviously aint happening bc in NA org care about money and wont let ppl go if they already signed. Also players in na got huge ass egos about who they play with so crashies aint playing without food.
bro said jett - yay 💀
Nachtel [#10]NRG is a superteam in disrepair. OpTic was the OG superteam
Optic wasnt even a super team tho, all 3 of FNS, Victor, and Crashies cant be called super team material cause none of them are best in role other than maybe FNS in IGLing.
Marved and Yay were definitely up there tho which is why the team was so successful. A real superteam tho was Loud, all their players were so clearly best in role and it was unbelievable
Rugsssssss [#39]this, TenZ at his prime was almost unkillable, and back then he played reyna jett AND raze at the highest level.
People tend to forget that every one of their 'goat' duelist has been playing since 2021, they weren't good enough back then to play on the big stage so we forget, TenZ hasn't become worse, people have just learned to play better than him, hope he gets his redemption arc this LCQ run
his raze wasnt nearly ever as good as his jett or reyna tho.
Hes an amazing player but i feel like hes a yay or saya player type. He requires a ton of support from his team to maximize his potential and often when he doesnt get that his impact will significantly be impacted negatively.
For a good year and a half sen havent been able to provide him with that cause the team was so on the fly and they never really knew what they wanted to do until right before they did it. He never had any consistency and i feel like that was his downfall
moshimoshiman24 [#40]on paper sen is the superteam but they keep making roster moves after 1 lost. Like no team is gonna have any chem when that happens. If u want the NA superteam then u do this smokes-marved, flex-zekken, igl-fenis, jett-yay, intiator- crashies. Now that obviously aint happening bc in NA org care about money and wont let ppl go if they already signed. Also players in na got huge ass egos about who they play with so crashies aint playing without food.
i like how you switched out Victor cause he genuinely isnt that great of a flex compared to many others but crashies as well id say easily loses to Sacy, Cauanzin, nzr, zellsis, xeppa, and the list goes on. Many other better options
noxx [#35]both complimented each other well, nobody was better than the other. ayrin is struggling and dephh was struggling too
ayrin is destined to struggled ....what do u expect when u have 1 mid jett player and other duelist mains forced to play support
dexter000111 [#3]Don't worry 100T is NA's last hope they will save NA
by losing to mibr again letting a miracle run team through
JustHunter [#44]Optic wasnt even a super team tho, all 3 of FNS, Victor, and Crashies cant be called super team material cause none of them are best in role other than maybe FNS in IGLing.
Marved and Yay were definitely up there tho which is why the team was so successful. A real superteam tho was Loud, all their players were so clearly best in role and it was unbelievable
? crashies has been consistently a top initiator while victor has stepped up massively in recent times
JustHunter [#45]his raze wasnt nearly ever as good as his jett or reyna tho.
Hes an amazing player but i feel like hes a yay or saya player type. He requires a ton of support from his team to maximize his potential and often when he doesnt get that his impact will significantly be impacted negatively.
For a good year and a half sen havent been able to provide him with that cause the team was so on the fly and they never really knew what they wanted to do until right before they did it. He never had any consistency and i feel like that was his downfall
he fried teams (dropping 40s and 30s to win his team a map in 2022) WHILE his entire team was going through absolute chaos which we now know is because of sicks mental health so idt hes the same as yay and saya, hes more confidence reliant and if he feels down then he wont show up at all and his raze has always been good, its coz of a few maps that people think its bad
edit : every good raze player has shit the bed multiple times (derke did it even when his team was winning and so did aspas), I think its impossible to consistently perform with that agent because there are many counters and variables that could hinder your performance
GooberBoy [#48]There's no such thing as a super team without an IGL, and you can't call it a superteam when their IGL was good before franchsiing but never really great, and their current team literally doesn't have an IGL so how could they be a "super team"
im basing it off of pure firepower and nothing else also marved's IGLing is an unknown quantity for all we know he could be gods gift to valorant IGLing but that has to wait until lcq starts
noxx [#52]im basing it off of pure firepower and nothing else also marved's IGLing is an unknown quantity for all we know he could be gods gift to valorant IGLing but that has to wait until lcq starts
ya but it's not a superteam if it's not a team. No team will win without an IGL, it's like making a "superteam" in basketball that has no player over 6'6. Even if Marved exceeds expectation you can't have a superteam without a top 5 IGL itw.
GooberBoy [#53]ya but it's not a superteam if it's not a team. No team will win without an IGL, it's like making a "superteam" in basketball that has no player over 6'6. Even if Marved exceeds expectation you can't have a superteam without a top 5 IGL itw.
yeah ik but im saying the coaching staff can turn him into a top 5 igl, it womt happen fast but just like how boostio and johnqt was on nobodys radar until now the same could happen with marved thats all
GooberBoy [#48]There's no such thing as a super team without an IGL, and you can't call it a superteam when their IGL was good before franchsiing but never really great, and their current team literally doesn't have an IGL so how could they be a "super team"
marved was IGLing on Faze bruh. Faze got to second place in a matter of 1 tournament when Marved was calling. The moment he left, faze completely fell off
GooberBoy [#53]ya but it's not a superteam if it's not a team. No team will win without an IGL, it's like making a "superteam" in basketball that has no player over 6'6. Even if Marved exceeds expectation you can't have a superteam without a top 5 IGL itw.
height in basketball is more akin to firepower than it is igling bruh what are you on about. Also they dont really need an insane IGL when Sacy Zekken and Marved are all calling. Marved just has highest priority and we already saw their chemistry was amazing in the Furia match.
Marved has IGLing experience he just didnt IGL on Optic cause FNS is just better at it. On top of that he picked up a ton of stuff while playing with FNS so we can be sure that SEN is at the very least in safe hands
noxx [#50]? crashies has been consistently a top initiator while victor has stepped up massively in recent times
not against prx
JustHunter [#57]height in basketball is more akin to firepower than it is igling bruh what are you on about. Also they dont really need an insane IGL when Sacy Zekken and Marved are all calling. Marved just has highest priority and we already saw their chemistry was amazing in the Furia match.
Marved has IGLing experience he just didnt IGL on Optic cause FNS is just better at it. On top of that he picked up a ton of stuff while playing with FNS so we can be sure that SEN is at the very least in safe hands
Prx dropped their igl and still placed 3rd in Tokyo while forsaken was igl. Surely 2 champion winners 2 iceland winners and one god teir flex can do without a proper igl
SigmaMale [#55]They don't a proven IGL. They ain't a superteam. Also tenz hasn't proven himself in 2 years
if boostio can be coached into a good igl then so can marved and tenz legit hasnt played with the same team members for more than the half of a tourney and even then if u take a look at how many maps sen won in 2022 against decent teams then you will see that most maps were won because of tenz, he can get back in form
JustHunter [#56]marved was IGLing on Faze bruh. Faze got to second place in a matter of 1 tournament when Marved was calling. The moment he left, faze completely fell off
i completely forgot that he was the IGL for faze back in the day
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