TBH there is not enough people talking abou C9 and very little appreciation/recognition let's be honest NOBODY expected them to do THIS GOOD +71 Rounds and 7-1 score built out of teams "reject's" even let yay go and it feels like the best thing they did especially looking at yay now and without chamber and his whole team to setup him imo. Big Kudos to them. What do y'all think are there other teams showing great potential but not being talked about? (also monyet from global esports is cracked af wish an actual good team picks him up)
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There WERENT a lot of people talking about C9
As of right now, cloud 9 is being talked about hyped up a lot by both pro and fans.
Sideshow even claimed that c9 was playing the second best fundamental valorant played
They have surpassed all expectations and could become a title contender for Tokyo
Also global needs time
ok i will accept now that they have done good; really out of expectations .. but now suddenly hyping them to TOKyo winners would BE L .. hope they do best .. cheers to CLOUD 9 fans .. I cheer for this org cause they BOUGHT GAMBIT ROSTER (CSGO) so ya common W support ;; but KEEP those shitbragger fans away ..
ColdWKey [#2]Liquid
PRX
EG
I think PRX hype just died out but they are still good and doing how it was expected imo im sure people will talk about them when playoffs start but i agree EG is showing potential and Liquid if they replace Redgar/Soulcas with someone competent like idk Trexx/Hoody/Molsi or Fnc's sub Kamyk they' might look better i think Soulcas should be replaced
Cael [#8]I think PRX hype just died out but they are still good and doing how it was expected imo im sure people will talk about them when playoffs start but i agree EG is showing potential and Liquid if they replace Redgar/Soulcas with someone competent like idk Trexx/Hoody/Molsi or Fnc's sub Kamyk they' might look better i think Soulcas should be replaced
they're lucky they've got redgar tbh
there's a massive igl shortage and if you have a mid igl you're doing better than most teams here
Cresp [#5]EG everyone should understand they are a serious contender for tokyo if you dont think that you are nitpicking and biased
They -bcj +demon1 and they are looking really good before they looked like kru but worse like they are playing ranked with friends but its visible potter stepped up they now look like they know what they are doing and have the skills to do so big kudos to EG aswell i hope they can play even better
Cresp [#5]EG everyone should understand they are a serious contender for tokyo if you dont think that you are nitpicking and biased
Unfortunately they won't make it far into Tokyo without Demon1. It's such a shitty situation, I can't imagine how frustrrating it is for all of the players involved
Pengu12 [#6]Idt yay was rlly a problem, the big improvements are -Vanity + everyone is on comfort roles
yeah but those teams used to play around their stars like yay so they would have diffrent strats executes that turns out dont work anymore since valorant evolved and its not about just clicking heads better or playing chamber sentinels played around tenz and got shit stomped same happened to c9 they dropped him and look better than literally ever in org's history in valo so i think letting the whole team shine and not having and ego is a big thing in valorant competetive environment (navi/fpx fnc drx etc examples ) also he was overpaid for what he was bringing tenz is a different story since he has 3x the fanboys bringing in additional revenue
Vasudev [#7]ok i will accept now that they have done good; really out of expectations .. but now suddenly hyping them to TOKyo winners would BE L .. hope they do best .. cheers to CLOUD 9 fans .. I cheer for this org cause they BOUGHT GAMBIT ROSTER (CSGO) so ya common W support ;; but KEEP those shitbragger fans away ..
With current form FNC C9 and DRX look the most likely to win Tokyo ofc let's not jump the gun but we can be hopefull Sentinels is the biggest flop imo with their squad depth and it really feels like big part of their bad results is ego;/
Cael [#8]I think PRX hype just died out but they are still good and doing how it was expected imo im sure people will talk about them when playoffs start but i agree EG is showing potential and Liquid if they replace Redgar/Soulcas with someone competent like idk Trexx/Hoody/Molsi or Fnc's sub Kamyk they' might look better i think Soulcas should be replaced
+sheydos -soulcas and lulquid are winning champs
bonkashi [#10]they're lucky they've got redgar tbh
there's a massive igl shortage and if you have a mid igl you're doing better than most teams here
That's why i think redgard would be a reasonable change if they bring another top tier igl otherwise soulcas imo is a valid replace currently he's 36th out of 45 in EMEA which is actually looking worse than ever like usually almost everyone was competetive now its just FNC NAVI TL everyone else is average at most maybe giants look somewhat above avg they could even import someone from pacific like monyet/xffero for example they are showing great potential while playing in a similar lvl of competition gotta give it to America this year their overall level of gameplay(like all teams included) is higher than emea or pacific but that's all in my opinion(and some stats :P)
Cael [#15]With current form FNC C9 and DRX look the most likely to win Tokyo ofc let's not jump the gun but we can be hopefull Sentinels is the biggest flop imo with their squad depth and it really feels like big part of their bad results is ego;/
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Itsover [#17]+sheydos -soulcas and lulquid are winning champs
they'd have half of the gambit roster and 3 russians that already played with each other so normally i'd agree but the problem is that soulcas is playing controllers/initiators and sometimes sentinels while sheydos plays mainly sentinels so preferably they'd need someone that plays controllers/initiators
Cael [#19]That's why i think redgard would be a reasonable change if they bring another top tier igl otherwise soulcas imo is a valid replace currently he's 36th out of 45 in EMEA which is actually looking worse than ever like usually almost everyone was competetive now its just FNC NAVI TL everyone else is average at most maybe giants look somewhat above avg they could even import someone from pacific like monyet/xffero for example they are showing great potential while playing in a similar lvl of competition gotta give it to America this year their overall level of gameplay(like all teams included) is higher than emea or pacific but that's all in my opinion(and some stats :P)
I really don't mean to be rude but I'm having a little bit of difficulty reading this in one breath since there are no full stops. I'm out of breath just reading it lmao. But I agree with replacing soulcas and if trexx reunites with sayf I would be really happy. He deserves better and so do some other players in other teams.
DarKnight007 [#18]Nobody expected this, right?
https://www.vlr.gg/189492/come-here-when-c9-win-masters-tokyo
Yeah, nobody...
Cael [#19]That's why i think redgard would be a reasonable change if they bring another top tier igl otherwise soulcas imo is a valid replace currently he's 36th out of 45 in EMEA which is actually looking worse than ever like usually almost everyone was competetive now its just FNC NAVI TL everyone else is average at most maybe giants look somewhat above avg they could even import someone from pacific like monyet/xffero for example they are showing great potential while playing in a similar lvl of competition gotta give it to America this year their overall level of gameplay(like all teams included) is higher than emea or pacific but that's all in my opinion(and some stats :P)
yeah its a shame, i love soulcas but he really hasn't been performing. his peaks are so good but few and far between. he is 3rd in EMEA for assists per round at 0.43 so atleast he's playing to his role very well and sorta making up for it.
Cael [#22]they'd have half of the gambit roster and 3 russians that already played with each other so normally i'd agree but the problem is that soulcas is playing controllers/initiators and sometimes sentinels while sheydos plays mainly sentinels so preferably they'd need someone that plays controllers/initiators
honestly old gambit roster clears most of the current EMEA teams if put back together.
Cael [#22]they'd have half of the gambit roster and 3 russians that already played with each other so normally i'd agree but the problem is that soulcas is playing controllers/initiators and sometimes sentinels while sheydos plays mainly sentinels so preferably they'd need someone that plays controllers/initiators
sheydos is a flash initiator main, just like soulcas
Yistyy [#20]No it's cuz this site is full of eu elitists who have a hate boner for NA. Any rational person acknowledges how good c9 are.
Id's say its both+a lil bit of flavour its EU vs NA, NA vs EU , Asia enjoyers , Sentinels Apologists and Underdogs haters lmao didn't hear that player's name before? so he must be dogshit basically type beat
Itsover [#28]sheydos is a flash initiator main, just like soulcas
I mean most games he played sentinels and in terms of initiators he only played breach then what about fade omen gekko kayo that are valued more on pretty much all maps other than fracture and sometimes lotus they need more depth in their squad nats is basically cypher/viper one trick
lightmode [#13]Unfortunately they won't make it far into Tokyo without Demon1. It's such a shitty situation, I can't imagine how frustrrating it is for all of the players involved
what happened
Cael [#31]I mean most games he played sentinels and in terms of initiators he only played breach then what about fade omen gekko kayo that are valued more on pretty much all maps other than fracture and sometimes lotus they need more depth in their squad nats is basically cypher/viper one trick
You probably started watching valorant in 2023, sheydos played skye/breach/kayo in gambit.
Itsover [#17]+sheydos -soulcas and lulquid are winning champs
Ain’t no way riot letting three Russian players on one team right now
Dokka [#3]There WERENT a lot of people talking about C9
As of right now, cloud 9 is being talked about hyped up a lot by both pro and fans.
Sideshow even claimed that c9 was playing the second best fundamental valorant playedThey have surpassed all expectations and could become a title contender for Tokyo
Also global needs time
who is the first?
unknown_trash [#23]I really don't mean to be rude but I'm having a little bit of difficulty reading this in one breath since there are no full stops. I'm out of breath just reading it lmao. But I agree with replacing soulcas and if trexx reunites with sayf I would be really happy. He deserves better and so do some other players in other teams.
chat gpt sure convenient
"That's why I think Redgard would be a reasonable change if they bring another top-tier IGL. Otherwise, Soulcas, in my opinion, is a valid replacement. Currently, he's 36th out of 45 in EMEA, which is actually looking worse than ever. Like usually, almost everyone was competitive.
Now it's just FNC, NAVI, TL. Everyone else is average at most. Maybe Giants look somewhat above average. They could even import someone from the Pacific, like Monyet or Xffero, for example. They are showing great potential while playing at a similar level of competition.
Gotta give it to America this year; their overall level of gameplay (like all teams included) is higher than EMEA or Pacific. But that's all in my opinion (and some stats :P)."
Cresp [#5]EG everyone should understand they are a serious contender for tokyo if you dont think that you are nitpicking and biased
I just disagree with coom over BcJ.
Danny [#9]Fnatic on fraudwatch, C9 clears these noobs
this thread was so nice and peaceful until you ruined it
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hekzy [#41]I just disagree with coom over BcJ.
Im p sure its bc cum is pre round caller for the team and boostio mid rounds. Also sure cum also midrounds a lot, he was originally picked up to igl last year and for some reason their old duelist picked up igling, but now its split between both cum and boostio. Both goats. I imagine the jawgemo over bcj is also having to do with roster logistics around the playing the raze and having to switch since it looks like they trust jawgemo moreso than bcj when it comes to harbor, and potter thinks his omen is good enough to not warrant a lot of roster switching.
Itsover [#34]You probably started watching valorant in 2023, sheydos played skye/breach/kayo in gambit.
But we are talking about current him just because he played other agents a year ago doesn't mean that he's still "flash initiator main" when he literally isn't
Cael [#45]But we are talking about current him just because he played other agents a year ago doesn't mean that he's still "flash initiator main" when he literally isn't
he's only playing kj because of role overlap with starxo who is also flash initiator main. he performs best on flash initiators.
Itsover [#46]he's only playing kj because of role overlap with starxo who is also flash initiator main. he performs best on flash initiators.
im sure if he was performing better he would be plaing the initiator+ i checked all his stats and he played 2500 rounds with sage alone even in gambit he was playing sage more than half of the time he played 1700 rounds on flash initiators and played 2800 rounds on sentinels he played breach this split more than ever and that's the only initiator he played and no he doesn't performs best on flash maybe right now cause sentinels have a different job to do which i think he's really good at breach is turbo easy its like playing brim
Yistyy [#20]No it's cuz this site is full of eu elitists who have a hate boner for NA. Any rational person acknowledges how good c9 are.
U ate acting like NAtards aren't any worse than EUtards lol. Both fanbases suck.
Cael [#49]im sure if he was performing better he would be plaing the initiator+ i checked all his stats and he played 2500 rounds with sage alone even in gambit he was playing sage more than half of the time he played 1700 rounds on flash initiators and played 2800 rounds on sentinels he played breach this split more than ever and that's the only initiator he played and no he doesn't performs best on flash maybe right now cause sentinels have a different job to do which i think he's really good at breach is turbo easy its like playing brim
you are legit clueless, watch some gambit games then talk. sheydos is goated on skye and kayo, he's not playing them rn because starxo is on the team, even though starxo is worse on flash init than sheydos he would be utter trash on sentinels so they chose the lesser evil. koi need to drop starxo, put wolfen on sentinel role and sign some turk vrl jett
Itsover [#51]you are legit clueless, watch some gambit games then talk. sheydos is goated on skye and kayo, he's not playing them rn because starxo is on the team, even though starxo is worse on flash init than sheydos he would be utter trash on sentinels so they chose the lesser evil. koi need to drop starxo, put wolfen on sentinel role and sign some turk vrl jett
I literally did i was a gambit fan and i agree he is good on skye and well decent on kayo but he clearly feels the best on sentinels his profile says that. he said that. his stats say that. (he even had sage as his profile pic for half of his career) so if anyone is delusional its you im sorry. i agree starxo is not performing at all wolfen is also trash we're not talking about koi even cause koi is just bad maybe he would like to try again at flashes and they do -soulcas +sheydos but i doubt it and pretty sure he and trexx were pro russia while nats redgar and chronicle werent so it might by another reason why we might not see sheydos in TL
Cael [#52]I literally did i was a gambit fan and i agree he is good on skye and well decent on kayo but he clearly feels the best on sentinels his profile says that. he said that. his stats say that. (he even had sage as his profile pic for half of his career) so if anyone is delusional its you im sorry. i agree starxo is not performing at all wolfen is also trash we're not talking about koi even cause koi is just bad maybe he would like to try again at flashes and they do -soulcas +sheydos but i doubt it and pretty sure he and trexx were pro russia while nats redgar and chronicle werent so it might by another reason why we might not see sheydos in TL
look at trexx's surname(ends with -enko) and at sheydos name, pls don't assume shit abt their political views.
Itsover [#53]look at trexx's surname(ends with -enko) and at sheydos name, pls don't assume shit abt their political views.
I didn't assume shit there was literally drama about it and -enko doesn't mean he's suddenly not russian lmao they both are+ i just added it that it could be additonal reason to justify why they could not take him + why does it matter i literally squashed your take with stats and reality and that's the only thing u can get mad at at this point and u still choose to do so
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