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I just don't even understand why some people are so pressed by this that they end up hating on random people who want to play games. Like I'm not 100% knowledgeable of what the controversy is even about, but holy fuck are some people sad and stuff like this just makes people want to support the game more. That's like attacking people who listen to Kanye West.
patuj [#3]I just don't even understand why some people are so pressed by this that they end up hating on random people who want to play games. Like I'm not 100% knowledgeable of what the controversy is even about, but holy fuck are some people sad and stuff like this just makes people want to support the game more. That's like attacking people who listen to Kanye West.
wait what happen what's wrong with playing that game?
hanafuuji [#5]wait what happen what's wrong with playing that game?
apparently JK Rowling made some transphobic comments, so some ppl are boycotting the game and shit. And apparently some of them are also harassing streamers who are playing the game
Tentativas [#6]apparently JK Rowling made some transphobic comments, so some ppl are boycotting the game and shit. And apparently some of them are also harassing streamers who are playing the game
what JK Rowling has to do with the game tho?
Netero [#7]Tbf JK Rowling is a nazi sympathizer and Harry Potter is ridden with anti-semetic and racist caricatures. It's probably the most hateful work of fiction in the last 50 years. Outside of that the plot and world building is trash anyway.
w8 i've prolly read harry potter series like 8 9 times and i didn't find a single thing related to all these stuff you are talking abt ?
hanafuuji [#8]what JK Rowling has to do with the game tho?
that the point she litreally have nothing to do with game , devs been working on this game for over for 5 years and besides the world buliding its plot is even realted to harry potter
Netero [#7]Tbf JK Rowling is a nazi sympathizer and Harry Potter is ridden with anti-semetic and racist caricatures. It's probably the most hateful work of fiction in the last 50 years. Outside of that the plot and world building is trash anyway.
This has to be a troll. I read the series atleast 10 times and never found that shit. Why is it a trend to hate on hp for random bs reasons(apart from rowling's comments) nowadays?? It is still one of the greatest fictional book series out there
patuj [#3]I just don't even understand why some people are so pressed by this that they end up hating on random people who want to play games. Like I'm not 100% knowledgeable of what the controversy is even about, but holy fuck are some people sad and stuff like this just makes people want to support the game more. That's like attacking people who listen to Kanye West.
she's publicly stated that she sees people buying things from the harry potter world as supporting her beliefs, and her beliefs are incredibly transphobic. I don't automatically judge people who buy this game because not that many people have seen the posts where she said that, but if people buy the game while knowing JKR sees it as support for transphobia, they're a transphobe too
aceofrainbows [#15]she's publicly stated that she sees people buying things from the harry potter world as supporting her beliefs, and her beliefs are incredibly transphobic. I don't automatically judge people who buy this game because not that many people have seen the posts where she said that, but if people buy the game while knowing JKR sees it as support for transphobia, they're a transphobe too
bro what abt those dev who worked day in and out for 5 years to make this game this pure bullshit man how tf buying the makes you transphobe
aceofrainbows [#15]she's publicly stated that she sees people buying things from the harry potter world as supporting her beliefs, and her beliefs are incredibly transphobic. I don't automatically judge people who buy this game because not that many people have seen the posts where she said that, but if people buy the game while knowing JKR sees it as support for transphobia, they're a transphobe too
what if I disagree with her belief saying that people who buy her content support her beliefs
checkmate I win, harry potter for me, no supporting her
Netero [#7]Tbf JK Rowling is a nazi sympathizer and Harry Potter is ridden with anti-semetic and racist caricatures. It's probably the most hateful work of fiction in the last 50 years. Outside of that the plot and world building is trash anyway.
The main actors for Harry potter have pretty much denounced her.
GreyDaze [#13]This has to be a troll. I read the series atleast 10 times and never found that shit. Why is it a trend to hate on hp for random bs reasons(apart from rowling's comments) nowadays?? It is still one of the greatest fictional book series out there
Outside of the obvious ones like the Asian character named Cho Chang and a black character named Kingsley ShackleBolt (seriously?) The goblins are clearly caricatures of Jewish people. The designs are nearly identical to depictions in nazi propaganda posters and there's a star of David in Gringott's bank. It's the only fantasy book where Goblins are somehow the rich bank owners and the common anti-semetic trope that they're greedy and manipulative.
aceofrainbows [#15]she's publicly stated that she sees people buying things from the harry potter world as supporting her beliefs, and her beliefs are incredibly transphobic. I don't automatically judge people who buy this game because not that many people have seen the posts where she said that, but if people buy the game while knowing JKR sees it as support for transphobia, they're a transphobe too
maybe ppl just wanna play the game bc they liked reading the novels?
just bc u read an author's book doesn't mean u agree with all of their beliefs
plus the game isn't even hers. it was developed by ppl who prolly poured hundreds of hrs into it
Netero [#7]Tbf JK Rowling is a nazi sympathizer and Harry Potter is ridden with anti-semetic and racist caricatures. It's probably the most hateful work of fiction in the last 50 years. Outside of that the plot and world building is trash anyway.
Harry Potter is genuine dogshit and yet this is still one of the dumbest fucking comments I've seen in years lol. How unbelievably fucking stupid do you have to be to genuinely believe this. We are so fucked if lard-brained creatures like you make up the bulk of this generation
Netero [#19]Outside of the obvious ones like the Asian character named Cho Chang and a black character named Kingsley ShackleBolt (seriously?) The goblins are clearly caricatures of Jewish people. The designs are nearly identical to depictions in nazi propaganda posters and there's a star of David in Gringott's bank. It's the only fantasy book where Goblins are somehow the rich bank owners and the common anti-semetic trope that they're greedy and manipulative.
goblins are folkloric creatures , There is Whole supercell game franchise which include (Clash of clans , Clash Royale) and numerous other games and movies , Connecting some folk creatures to anti semetism you are actuall brainded
aceofrainbows [#15]she's publicly stated that she sees people buying things from the harry potter world as supporting her beliefs, and her beliefs are incredibly transphobic. I don't automatically judge people who buy this game because not that many people have seen the posts where she said that, but if people buy the game while knowing JKR sees it as support for transphobia, they're a transphobe too
just another brainwashed US citizen, nothing new to see here
Ryuji [#23]goblins are folkloric creatures , There is Whole supercell game franchise which include (Clash of clans , Clash Royale) and numerous other games and movies , Connecting some folk creatures to anti semetism you are actuall brainded
Woah goblins are in other works of fiction and games? It's folklore? I had no idea 🐸 ☕️ were they rich bank owners in those too or just low level monsters in dungeons?
Netero [#19]Outside of the obvious ones like the Asian character named Cho Chang and a black character named Kingsley ShackleBolt (seriously?) The goblins are clearly caricatures of Jewish people. The designs are nearly identical to depictions in nazi propaganda posters and there's a star of David in Gringott's bank. It's the only fantasy book where Goblins are somehow the rich bank owners and the common anti-semetic trope that they're greedy and manipulative.
This is just depressing and hilarious. Just go outside and enjoy life a little instead of depressing yourselves with the imaginary of "everyone hates everyone else". The only thing to see is that those complaining about everything, probably do so because they hate everything.
Netero [#25]Woah goblins are in other works of fiction and games? It's folklore? I had no idea 🐸 ☕️ were they rich bank owners in those too or just low level monsters in dungeons?
Typically, in fantasy fiction, goblins are depicted as cruel, grabby, and untrustworthy, the type of creatures to join orcs in battle against the forces of good, to stab an adventurer with a rusty dagger, and steal their valuables
Netero [#25]Woah goblins are in other works of fiction and games? It's folklore? I had no idea 🐸 ☕️ were they rich bank owners in those too or just low level monsters in dungeons?
no but dogwhistles arent real because i dont pick up on them! XD
Ryuji [#27]Typically, in fantasy fiction, goblins are depicted as cruel, grabby, and untrustworthy, the type of creatures to join orcs in battle against the forces of good, to stab an adventurer with a rusty dagger, and steal their valuables
and in litreally every other game/fiction you will see that goblin are attracted towards gold and in Harry potter world there currency is gold . Goblins protect there gold above anything thats why they are showns as keepers of the gold
and as of dungeons gold is a valuble item so its kept in undergroud vaults for protection
Netero [#25]Woah goblins are in other works of fiction and games? It's folklore? I had no idea 🐸 ☕️ were they rich bank owners in those too or just low level monsters in dungeons?
More importantly, the star is NOT the star of David. It's the star of Australia. The bank was literally filmed at "Australia House". The stars 6 points represent the 6 states of the Commonwealth of Australia as it was, built in 1918. It's getting to the point where Everything is an agenda.
Netero [#19]Outside of the obvious ones like the Asian character named Cho Chang and a black character named Kingsley ShackleBolt (seriously?) The goblins are clearly caricatures of Jewish people. The designs are nearly identical to depictions in nazi propaganda posters and there's a star of David in Gringott's bank. It's the only fantasy book where Goblins are somehow the rich bank owners and the common anti-semetic trope that they're greedy and manipulative.
They literally have characters named Potter,longbottom,Weasley and u pick on that💀💀💀. Goblins are depicted in that way in every piece of fiction. Wtf are u saying. In Japanese stuff they are depicted as creatures who capture women as sex slaves. They are always portrayed like that. Normally I hate the use of word snowflake but I gotta say u are acting like a cringe snowflake. Hp series is one of the best fictional book series written for young adults. Ppl are braindead if they think the books have anything depicting racism
Tentativas [#6]apparently JK Rowling made some transphobic comments, so some ppl are boycotting the game and shit. And apparently some of them are also harassing streamers who are playing the game
feminists and trans arguing over what a woman is while the rest of the world goes on with their day
Netero [#7]Tbf JK Rowling is a nazi sympathizer and Harry Potter is ridden with anti-semetic and racist caricatures. It's probably the most hateful work of fiction in the last 50 years. Outside of that the plot and world building is trash anyway.
Harry Potter being the most popular book series ever by a massive margin pretty much shits on your opinion
Netero [#7]Tbf JK Rowling is a nazi sympathizer and Harry Potter is ridden with anti-semetic and racist caricatures. It's probably the most hateful work of fiction in the last 50 years. Outside of that the plot and world building is trash anyway.
So you agree with bullying others who play the game?
Mjtchell [#14]You're just a follower of the opposite direction if you let dumb shit of either side effect you
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People down voting this have no self awareness, you are just as much of a sheep as the people you claim to criticise
Ryuji [#11]that the point she litreally have nothing to do with game , devs been working on this game for over for 5 years and besides the world buliding its plot is even realted to harry potter
she still earns royalties from being the original author
Ryuji [#16]bro what abt those dev who worked day in and out for 5 years to make this game this pure bullshit man how tf buying the makes you transphobe
J.K. Rowling has publicly said, multiple times, that every dollar she gets in royalties goes to anti-trans programs.
No you're not a transphobe for buying the game, however you're directly giving money to programs that support her TERF believes
And yes its gonna suck for devs, but that's just such a small minority compared to the trans people who you're directly harming if you were to pretend that Rowling wasn't attached to the title. Its just a lose lose either way and you'll have to pick what of the 2 you think is the lesser evil.
brobeans [#33]feminists and trans arguing over what a woman is while the rest of the world goes on with their day
U mean transphobes?
Netero [#19]Outside of the obvious ones like the Asian character named Cho Chang and a black character named Kingsley ShackleBolt (seriously?) The goblins are clearly caricatures of Jewish people. The designs are nearly identical to depictions in nazi propaganda posters and there's a star of David in Gringott's bank. It's the only fantasy book where Goblins are somehow the rich bank owners and the common anti-semetic trope that they're greedy and manipulative.
Someone's watched Shawn ig
Faraday [#40]They complain about how buying hogwarts legacy supports jk rowling's transphobia yet they'll post about it on twitter owned by Elon Musk whos also transphobic.
The cognitive dissonance is wild
Yeah sure, I'll nail my opinions in the irl town square next time mate, that should showem
Targu1n [#45]J.K. Rowling has publicly said, multiple times, that every dollar she gets in royalties goes to anti-trans programs.
No you're not a transphobe for buying the game, however you're directly giving money to programs that support her TERF believesAnd yes its gonna suck for devs, but that's just such a small minority compared to the trans people who you're directly harming if you were to pretend that Rowling wasn't attached to the title. Its just a lose lose either way and you'll have to pick what of the 2 you think is the lesser evil.
ya so you people will harass people who are just tryna enjoy the game nice work that will definately motivate me to suppourt transrights
Ryuji [#49]ya so you people will harass people who are just tryna enjoy the game nice work that will definately motivate me to suppourt transrights
as with every issue theres idiots who take it too far, you cant discredit an entire group of people because of it
Kk0bra1101 [#48]Yeah sure, I'll nail my opinions in the irl town square next time mate, that should showem
I mean if you attack others for enjoying Hogwarts legacy because the creator is transphobic then why doesn't the same apply when you use twitter since Elon is also transphobic?
If you want to hold that position at least be consistent otherwise why would I listen to a hypocrite
Netero [#25]Woah goblins are in other works of fiction and games? It's folklore? I had no idea 🐸 ☕️ were they rich bank owners in those too or just low level monsters in dungeons?
I mean your obviously right about goblins being jewish caricatures, just wouldn't come with so much energy that it's the most racist in the last 50 years or nazi sympathiser since that is trivialising what nazi means
but hey keep fighting the good fight netero
Kk0bra1101 [#46]U mean transphobes?
what if i say a trans woman isnt a woman and i dont fear trans people,what am i?
Targu1n [#52]as with every issue theres idiots who take it too far, you cant discredit an entire group of people because of it
Heres the thing, most people would at least went through highschool which basically teaches you to learn something generally and apply theories into it. These mindset would seep into IRL as well subconsciously
Netero [#7]Tbf JK Rowling is a nazi sympathizer and Harry Potter is ridden with anti-semetic and racist caricatures. It's probably the most hateful work of fiction in the last 50 years. Outside of that the plot and world building is trash anyway.
Says Harry Potter's World building is trash but watches anime lmao
Faraday [#40]They complain about how buying hogwarts legacy supports jk rowling's transphobia yet they'll post about it on twitter owned by Elon Musk whos also transphobic.
The cognitive dissonance is wild
yeah, some trans ppl are in the same bucket as flat earthers and anti-vaxxers. We just laugh at them, no one whose opinion is worth it takes them seriously lol
Nisham [#43]Lmao, how does someone cry.
Just go sub mode or sum shit
Agreed. Overly sensitive trans ppl and overly sensitive streamer lmao
patuj [#3]I just don't even understand why some people are so pressed by this that they end up hating on random people who want to play games. Like I'm not 100% knowledgeable of what the controversy is even about, but holy fuck are some people sad and stuff like this just makes people want to support the game more. That's like attacking people who listen to Kanye West.
Bro these ppl literally have nothing to do on their lives . They're so useless in society.
asdfgh [#56]what if i say a trans woman isnt a woman and i dont fear trans people,what am i?
you're still transphobic, because the suffix phobia in that context doesn't freaking mean literal fear.
also old joke
Faraday [#55]I mean your obviously right about goblins being jewish caricatures, just wouldn't come with so much energy that it's the most racist in the last 50 years or nazi sympathiser since that is trivialising what nazi means
but hey keep fighting the good fight netero
you cant be real lol
kzeriar [#63]you're still transphobic, because the suffix phobia in that context doesn't freaking mean literal fear.
also old joke
could you tell me the definition of a phobia
kzeriar [#63]you're still transphobic, because the suffix phobia in that context doesn't freaking mean literal fear.
also old joke
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Typical_NA_Fan [#69]She openly said she was going to use game for funding transphobic uses
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andrewdamf [#64]you cant be real lol
I doubt jk rowling mean't for it to be a jewish caricature but your really gonna tell me the hook nosed people that own the central banks, are greedy, and use others for their own benefit doesn't sound a bit a like how conspiracy theorists talk about Jews?
Faraday [#53]I mean if you attack others for enjoying Hogwarts legacy because the creator is transphobic then why doesn't the same apply when you use twitter since Elon is also transphobic?
If you want to hold that position at least be consistent otherwise why would I listen to a hypocrite
Alright then where am I supposed to post my non valo related opinions???...... Fking vlr mate??????
I'm not going to attack PPL who want to play HP legacy, nither am i attacking the devs, the farthest i will go is to advise against playing the game but that's it, if u like to play it go ahead
I would definitely leave Twitter if there was an alternative, but there isn't.....
LouBag [#80]I was sorted into Hufflepuff…
And I dont know how I feel about that
💀lmfaoo i am going to buy the game in few days i am hoping i get slytherine or something
asdfgh [#78]so im not transphobic
I see, you're taking things very literally, but I suppose you know that discussing terminology is just avoiding the discussion. If you wanna be strict about it, it depends on the reason you're denying a trans woman's identity. If it's for mere lack of understanding about transsexuality or gender, sure, you might only be uninformed, but if that denial comes from simply not wanting to allow them their own identity, then you're probably doing it because of aversion, and that would be transphobic. anyways, I shouldn't be having this discussion in vlr lmao
Netero [#7]Tbf JK Rowling is a nazi sympathizer and Harry Potter is ridden with anti-semetic and racist caricatures. It's probably the most hateful work of fiction in the last 50 years. Outside of that the plot and world building is trash anyway.
L opinion, someone needs to get hold of your head and put it in a toilet bowl
Netero [#19]Outside of the obvious ones like the Asian character named Cho Chang and a black character named Kingsley ShackleBolt (seriously?) The goblins are clearly caricatures of Jewish people. The designs are nearly identical to depictions in nazi propaganda posters and there's a star of David in Gringott's bank. It's the only fantasy book where Goblins are somehow the rich bank owners and the common anti-semetic trope that they're greedy and manipulative.
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Faraday [#77]I doubt jk rowling mean't for it to be a jewish caricature but your really gonna tell me the hook nosed people that own the central banks, are greedy, and use others for their own benefit doesn't sound a bit a like how conspiracy theorists talk about Jews?
bruh no way yall overthinking shit this much
ur the one promoting stereotypes abt jews rn
its a fkin fantasy novel by some author
not fkin agenda
Zephyros [#87]bruh no way yall overthinking shit this much
ur the one promoting stereotypes abt jews rn
its a fkin fantasy novel by some author
not fkin agenda
Just because something is unintentional doesn't make it not bad.
If I made a game where you play as a russian invading ukraine and it shows russia as the good guys for invading ukraine, even if it wasn't intended to be a pro-putin agenda, it obviously still has the parallels so we would say it's bad.
Not to say that I really care all that much about it since the harm isn't really there and I don't care about cancelling harry potter, just pointing out that there is the parallel
kzeriar [#82]I see, you're taking things very literally, but I suppose you know that discussing terminology is just avoiding the discussion. If you wanna be strict about it, it depends on the reason you're denying a trans woman's identity. If it's for mere lack of understanding about transsexuality or gender, sure, you might only be uninformed, but if that denial comes from simply not wanting to allow them their own identity, then you're probably doing it because of aversion, and that would be transphobic. anyways, I shouldn't be having this discussion in vlr lmao
so i have something against trans people if i dont agree with the narrative that gender and sex have no correlation and that the identity and feeling that comes with being a female or a male is just made up by "society"??? Because thats the reasoning ive heard for the argument that anyone can be any gender because it has nothing to do with sex
asdfgh [#90]so i have something against trans people if i dont agree with the narrative that gender and sex have no correlation and that the identity and feeling that comes with being a female or a male is just made up by "society"??? Because thats the reasoning ive heard for the argument that anyone can be any gender because it has nothing to do with sex
the narrative is not that gender and sex have absolutely no correlation, most trans supporters agree that sex has a major influence in gender because of hormones and shit, but it's not a definitive correlation so they can in some cases be different. And that applies the other way around too, gender is greatly influenced by society because we have role models for men and women, but not entirely defined by society. I'm sure you've heard people say all different things I can't speak for everyone but at least the view I'm sharing is what I believed to be the general opinion. This disagreements are natural because gender is a very subjective word and there's no clear way to define it.
Because of this, I don't mind if you think some genders people use in the internet are bullshit. But one thing is for certain: transexuality is for real. Studies show that the transgender brain has structural differences to their cisgender counterparts of the same sex that are more similar to the brains of their gender. Also we've seen transexual behavior way before the modern days in different cultures across the whole world. Therefore, in light of the facts, denying the existence of transsexuals is aversion, at least imo.
sorry for the long post btw, this is a complicated topic with a lot of nuance and I just don't wanna be misunderstood, but I think you agree that debating this in here is pointless anyways
kzeriar [#91]the narrative is not that gender and sex have absolutely no correlation, most trans supporters agree that sex has a major influence in gender because of hormones and shit, but it's not a definitive correlation so they can in some cases be different. And that applies the other way around too, gender is greatly influenced by society because we have role models for men and women, but not entirely defined by society. I'm sure you've heard people say all different things I can't speak for everyone but at least the view I'm sharing is what I believed to be the general opinion. This disagreements are natural because gender is a very subjective word and there's no clear way to define it.
Because of this, I don't mind if you think some genders people use in the internet are bullshit. But one thing is for certain: transexuality is for real. Studies show that the transgender brain has structural differences to their cisgender counterparts of the same sex that are more similar to the brains of their gender. Also we've seen transexual behavior way before the modern days in different cultures across the whole world. Therefore, in light of the facts, denying the existence of transsexuals is aversion, at least imo.
sorry for the long post btw, this is a complicated topic with a lot of nuance and I just don't wanna be misunderstood, but I think you agree that debating this in here is pointless anyways
ok but all i said is that trans people are biologically not the sex they claim,they can feel like the opposite gender but that doesnt change anything,as you pointed out its quite literally a disorder in ur brain structure that makes you feel like you are not who you are witch is obviously not natural or to be encouraged like people are doing now, to me it sounds like people are trying to diminish the difference between sex and gender to make trans people feel better about themselves,being a different "gender" doesnt mean u are the sex affiliated with the gender,you can say you feel like a woman but saying u are a "real woman" and ur just as woman as the women who are biologically female is jus delusion,cant help if someone finds this "offensive"
Faraday [#88]Just because something is unintentional doesn't make it not bad.
If I made a game where you play as a russian invading ukraine and it shows russia as the good guys for invading ukraine, even if it wasn't intended to be a pro-putin agenda, it obviously still has the parallels so we would say it's bad.
Not to say that I really care all that much about it since the harm isn't really there and I don't care about cancelling harry potter, just pointing out that there is the parallel
there were another category of creatures in Harry Potter called house elves what do you think ? which people they represent?
what your conspiracy theories on them? was author targeting other community ?
Goblin were at least shown are intellegent cretures and master craftmens, House elfs were in much more bad position that goblins and btw Elfs were having hook nose too
you can point millions of unessecary points from a fictional novel and make your own shitty theories rather than enjoying the plot
asdfgh [#92]ok but all i said is that trans people are biologically not the sex they claim,they can feel like the opposite gender but that doesnt change anything,as you pointed out its quite literally a disorder in ur brain structure that makes you feel like you are not who you are witch is obviously not natural or to be encouraged like people are doing now, to me it sounds like people are trying to diminish the difference between sex and gender to make trans people feel better about themselves,being a different "gender" doesnt mean u are the sex affiliated with the gender,you can say you feel like a woman but saying u are a "real woman" and ur just as woman as the women who are biologically female is jus delusion,cant help if someone finds this "offensive"
sure, being trans is "out of the norm" in terms of being a minority, but why would must it be considered a disorder? You might suffer with body dysphoria but besides that you're a normal person, the fault is much more on the society for not accepting their way of being. imo, this sounds like prejudice of your part because a man looking like a woman or vice versa "is weird". And it is natural, as I proved by it being literally a biological phenomenom. Also because of that, it doesn't make sense to say it's being "encouraged", you can't convince someone to become trans, people are already born that way, society is just trying to make people more comfortable to be who they are.
About whether the words "woman" and "man" and refer to a person's gender or sex, it's up to us to decide. Language is a tool to communicate, so definitions should reflect our intentions, and not the other way around. And I think it's much more inclusive and kinder to use "man" and "woman" according to a person's gender, so we can treat trans people as how they feel, than arbitrarily excluding them from these terms.
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