How does it feel to get two of your best duelists stolen from Geng, T1? Like honestly I'm at a loss of words. Why on hell would they sign these two korean duelists with Rossi and wronski?? What are they even thinking.
Enamul_Huq1990 [#4]I was really hoping Geng Texture but Geng an L org
??? geng got meteor who is as good as t3xt
blame t1 for not pickup him lmao geng did its job
juugobr_ [#5]??? geng got meteor who is as good as t3xt
blame t1 for not pickup him lmao geng did its job
So what?
Enamul_Huq1990 [#4]I was really hoping Geng Texture but Geng an L org
geng has meteor and there arent any spots left for t3xture. All duelists roles are taken
gordonramsay [#9]geng has meteor and there arent any spots left for t3xture. All duelists roles are taken
Have you seen how many duelist in GE?
archetype [#7]Meteor > t3xture and Bazzi anyway
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Enamul_Huq1990 [#13]Have you seen how many duelist in GE?
And? that doesnt mean other teams are going to do that too. Looks like Geng just wanted a comfortable roster with roles already figured out. T1 already has like 3 duelists
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https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1083/champions-tour-east-asia-last-chance-qualifier
archetype [#19]https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1083/champions-tour-east-asia-last-chance-qualifier
DONT tell me GE picked up best 2 players of KOREA literally L for other orgs 💀
NOX_- [#21]DONT tell me GE picked up best 2 players of KOREA literally L for other orgs 💀
there are plenty of good korean players outside of bazzi and t3xture bro
archetype [#22]there are plenty of good korean players outside of bazzi and t3xture bro
obviously thats why Korea has 19 representations in VPL
archetype [#22]there are plenty of good korean players outside of bazzi and t3xture bro
sea doodoo region downfraggin you is crazy. I cant wait for 2023
horse69 [#27]saya, buzz, foxy9, meteor, rb, ban >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> texture and bazzi
nah t3xture is easily as good as any of the guys you mentioned. I bet his work ethic or personality was the reason he wasnt picked up as fast. Either that or bazzi and him made a money move.
gordonramsay [#29]nah t3xture is easily as good as any of the guys you mentioned. I bet his work ethic or personality was the reason he wasnt picked up as fast. Either that or bazzi and him made a money move.
even bazzi is as good as those mentioned
bazzi just needs to develop a brain he plays way too risky just peeking everything
himne [#15]idk if they can be considered "stolen" , glad to see them in a franchised team.
Dont you want to have teams competing in ascension? 1 team with bazzi and another one with t3xture?? Come on, you guys are on some high copium.
Flyjin [#31]even bazzi is as good as those mentioned
bazzi just needs to develop a brain he plays way too risky just peeking everything
maybe remove ban and foxy9 from there but rest no because they proved themselves to be good internationally
Flyjin [#25]THEY GET PAID = KOREANS HAPPY
Korea would have a much better chance in ascension with players like these two. It's a huge loss.
archetype [#7]Meteor > t3xture and Bazzi anyway
Yes for franchise maybe, but do you not care for your tier 2 scene or the team competing in ascension?
BoF7ooM [#35]Korea would have a much better chance in ascension with players like these two. It's a huge loss.
Im gonna be honest with you, I dont think theres a single korean who cares about ascension
horse69 [#34]maybe remove ban and foxy9 from there but rest no because they proved themselves to be good internationally
yeah if you remove those 2 ur right
but saya honestly maybe na is just farmer region and he will struggle here (maybe)
so the only person truly above them is buzz rb meteor
Flyjin [#37]Im gonna be honest with you, I dont think theres a single korean who cares about ascension
Oh well then goodluck in the later years of valorant when the whole league will be overrun by Sea and maybe china teams who are serious about the game and winning ascension every year. Ascension is where you foster your tier 2 players into tier 1 ready players. You seem very ignorant about it.
BoF7ooM [#36]Yes for franchise maybe, but do you not care for your tier 2 scene or the team competing in ascension?
t3xture and Bazzi are good enough to play in Franchise, if they were in Ascension it would be quite unfair - for them and any other teams. There will be more talent coming out from Korea.
BoF7ooM [#39]Oh well then goodluck in the later years of valorant when the whole league will be overrun by Sea and maybe china teams who are serious about the game and winning ascension every year. Ascension is where you foster your tier 2 players into tier 1 ready players. You seem very ignorant about it.
stop trying to speak for koreans no one gives a fuck
juugobr_ [#5]??? geng got meteor who is as good as t3xt
blame t1 for not pickup him lmao geng did its job
Meteor good as text?? Bruh I haven't seen texture play(he got fked everytime I watched him play) but I think he's a bit overrated ok extremely overrated. Meteor is just a different breed and texture is like his Walmart version both in game and stats speaks for itself.
tronunz [#28].
Can texture do this??
https://www.vlr.gg/71632/on-sla2ers-vs-drx-champions-tour-korea-stage-1-challengers-w2
Bang overrated
https://www.vlr.gg/108013/on-sla2ers-vs-damwon-gaming-champions-tour-korea-stage-2-challengers-ubsf
Recently,
Bazzi
Texture with super team kekw
Really, I don't understand why people praise texture so much please enlighten me . He even got diffed by Rossi in the past. Like Rossi hard diffed him
Adi69LassiSeller [#43]Can texture do this??
https://www.vlr.gg/71632/on-sla2ers-vs-drx-champions-tour-korea-stage-1-challengers-w2
Bang overrated
https://www.vlr.gg/108013/on-sla2ers-vs-damwon-gaming-champions-tour-korea-stage-2-challengers-ubsf
Recently,
Bazzi
Texture with super team kekwReally, I don't understand why people praise texture so much please enlighten me . He even got diffed by Rossi in the past. Like Rossi hard diffed him
consistency matters
unknown_trash [#45]bruh meteor >>>>> texture and bazzi, and is on par with buzz. unfortunately, all korean duelists suck compared to foxy9
Fr Meteor built different
jimjam789 [#17]t1 having either was the only feasible option but not too sad. i did really want bazzi on geng for flex tho
bazzi is actually not good on flex, his skye and kayo stats must be terrible since he always looked like a tier 2 player when playing them.
BoF7ooM [#39]Oh well then goodluck in the later years of valorant when the whole league will be overrun by Sea and maybe china teams who are serious about the game and winning ascension every year. Ascension is where you foster your tier 2 players into tier 1 ready players. You seem very ignorant about it.
i mean you could rely on ascension, or you could just sign an unproven but talented duelist player to your team as a 6th despite being the best in the pacific league already.
Enamul_Huq1990 [#11]T3xture owns them both
in your dreams kid. meteor was always better, there was a reason that TNL was second or third best team in korea before they disbanded