And why? Only counting pro players ofc
number1_ScreaM_fan [#2]Zeek
Idk why people still treat him like the god he was during champs. Like he still is quite good but not champions mvp form rn
Zeek was a beast during their Champions run, but it's really hard to keep that form
He's a pretty good player still tho
ButterflyEffect23 [#6]Zeek was a beast during their Champions run, but it's really hard to keep that form
He's a pretty good player still tho
only champs tho. the rest he's meeehhh
number1_ScreaM_fan [#2]Zeek
Idk why people still treat him like the god he was during champs. Like he still is quite good but not champions mvp form rn
he literally got benched who tf is treating him like a god
Elcatsu [#5]scream
mans losing his touch, n it feels bad, i wanna see scream play the way he played in the first masters lan event, he was crisp af
Nepchaaa [#9]Victor. Idk why everytime optic play he gets praised like he is gods gift to valorant while yay, marved, and most of the time crashies do more for the team, and even most of the time entry more.
Victor's Neon during map 2(Icebox) against FPX made me laugh so hard
ButterflyEffect23 [#13]Victor's Neon during map 2(Icebox) against FPX made me laugh so hard
As a dedicated victor hater myself, same.
eSBee [#11]mans losing his touch, n it feels bad, i wanna see scream play the way he played in the first masters lan event, he was crisp af
He's not losing his touch. He's forced to play IGL cause Liquid has leadership issues and he's the one that stepped up. IGLing really harms your personal impact
eSBee [#11]mans losing his touch, n it feels bad, i wanna see scream play the way he played in the first masters lan event, he was crisp af
It's hard to change your role and keep the same level of personal skill/aim
MourninggStarr [#12]Sinatraa
He's an undeniable ow goat
but in val he didn't have the chance to prove himself on the highest of levels
FightWasTaken [#10]he literally got benched who tf is treating him like a god
The fans? That's why he's overrated
unknown_trash [#22]The fans? That's why he's overrated
show me 5 people treating him like a 'god' in this stage
FightWasTaken [#24]show me 5 people treating him like a 'god' in this stage
bro any emea team missing a player is being spammed with
-mediocre player
+zeek
Elcatsu [#5]scream
he is igl so no way he is keeping the same performance. scream himself also said so multiple times
number1_ScreaM_fan [#28]bro any emea team missing a player is being spammed with
-mediocre player
+zeek
i mean like u said he is still quite good so it makes sense for people to want him
deathlyclaws [#26]No one rated him good so he can't be overrated
he was rated as one of the top three IGLs in NA when he joined T1
ButterflyEffect23 [#6]Zeek was a beast during their Champions run, but it's really hard to keep that form
He's a pretty good player still tho
Or maybe he just plays better on lan
number1_ScreaM_fan [#28]bro any emea team missing a player is being spammed with
-mediocre player
+zeek
he's so much better than russ or mistic, especially on lan
GANJAUSER [#34]crashies, he has like one good match and says he is the best intiator itw
hes not best but hes up there, i think hes a better player than victor
Nepchaaa [#9]Victor. Idk why everytime optic play he gets praised like he is gods gift to valorant while yay, marved, and most of the time crashies do more for the team, and even most of the time entry more.
Victor used to be fantastic but it seems like he just keeps getting worse and worse now only waking up occasionaly
Metal [#4]TenZ in 2021
People acted like no one can beat him in aim duels
he was at Reykjavík atleast, the competition wasn't as good as it is today but at the time he was significantly better then everyone else
number1_ScreaM_fan [#28]bro any emea team missing a player is being spammed with
-mediocre player
+zeek
tbh the - are mistic and russ and he's better than them even in his meh form
Faraday [#44]he was at Reykjavík atleast, the competition wasn't as good as it is today but at the time he was significantly better then everyone else
cNed wasn't there brother he would've gotten his ass kicked at the time
kapteN [#15]He's not losing his touch. He's forced to play IGL cause Liquid has leadership issues and he's the one that stepped up. IGLing really harms your personal impact
this is such a dumb excuses people are saying he's igl like he igled a whole fucking tournament
go ask the team he igled for an extremely short anount of time
Valgod [#37]cNed
yo we're gonna have a problem here buddy
jk he dropped the ball for 2022 but what i saw against fpx the ladt match they played made me hope for a comeback
the man went +19 on kd and 15-9 fk, all that while they lost
now u can't tell me cNed isn't back baby
https://www.vlr.gg/107527/funplus-phoenix-vs-acend-champions-tour-emea-stage-2-challengers-playoffs-lr1
the match if anyone cares against FPX the current masters winners but i have to say fpx at the time was no where near fpx this masters soo truth must be said
ButterflyEffect23 [#8]Why you gotta do headshot machine like that
he is insane, but in valorant the teams doesen't need a player who need four players to make them shine, ScreaM is a tier S aimer, but they dont know how to play at professional level any valorant character, and in my bronze mind he is 100% aim no brain
NG1nS [#51]yo we're gonna have a problem here buddy
jk he dropped the ball for 2022 but what i saw against fpx the ladt match they played made me hope for a comebackthe man went +19 on kd and 15-9 fk, all that while they lost
now u can't tell me cNed isn't back baby
https://www.vlr.gg/107527/funplus-phoenix-vs-acend-champions-tour-emea-stage-2-challengers-playoffs-lr1
the match if anyone cares against FPX the current masters winners but i have to say fpx at the time was no where near fpx this masters soo truth must be said
oh yea cneds been slow to adapt to chamber, but started feeling himself again against fpx and actually abusing the champ like he used to on jett
we'll see if that game was an outlier or an indicator for the games to come
Targu1n [#55]oh yea cneds been slow to adapt to chamber, but started feeling himself again against fpx and actually abusing the champ like he used to on jett
we'll see if that game was an outlier or an indicator for the games to come
yeah i'm also excited i just hope his team do their job too, monsterr have been fucking insane but vakk and starxo are questionable and there's the new fifth
we'll see in lcq
NG1nS [#48]this is such a dumb excuses people are saying he's igl like he igled a whole fucking tournament
go ask the team he igled for an extremely short anount of time
You don’t know the facts. He’s been igling since before l1nk left. Did it the entire time dreamas was on the team
NG1nS [#47]cNed wasn't there brother he would've gotten his ass kicked at the time
There is a reason why they didn't qualify
MainMe [#61]There is a reason why they didn't qualify
and that reason is? i like to hear it from ur mouth
kapteN [#59]You don’t know the facts. He’s been igling since before l1nk left. Did it the entire time dreamas was on the team
yes soooo 4 games ? lmao
that fits my EXTREMELY SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME line, does it not?
to put it into perspective that's the same amount of games SEIDER played for FPX this masters
ALSO i want yo say i don't think scream lost his touch or anything this response is only for people that think he did and make igling the Reason
now let's see the downvotes with no replies, truth hurts sometimes
trembolonaRage [#70]https://clips.twitch.tv/CrackyCovertCheddarDogFace-ArHXkjXB-ywZo2Rx
https://clips.twitch.tv/SassyDoubtfulSwanPoooound-qZjtmA5afZxFkn9c
https://www.twitch.tv/mwzera/clip/TriumphantUninterestedOrangeBleedPurple-tGeykAGnQYxjCrz7just from yesterday's stream :)
Unfortunately keznit owns mwhozera
Valgod [#37]cNed
cNed probably underrated, he is a consistent player and won the fucking champions kurwa.
Nepchaaa [#9]Victor. Idk why everytime optic play he gets praised like he is gods gift to valorant while yay, marved, and most of the time crashies do more for the team, and even most of the time entry more.
he has one game every now and then where he destroys and does really good, and games like that make people forget hes mediocre all other games
trembolonaRage [#70]https://clips.twitch.tv/CrackyCovertCheddarDogFace-ArHXkjXB-ywZo2Rx
https://clips.twitch.tv/SassyDoubtfulSwanPoooound-qZjtmA5afZxFkn9c
https://www.twitch.tv/mwzera/clip/TriumphantUninterestedOrangeBleedPurple-tGeykAGnQYxjCrz7just from yesterday's stream :)
bro the misses are more insane than the shots, how can he miss so much
ButterflyEffect23 [#72]Good IGL imo
I agree on that part, but on average he just can't frag. He may clucth up some critical rounds, but he usually gets outaimed
R4BOCOP [#52]he is insane, but in valorant the teams doesen't need a player who need four players to make them shine, ScreaM is a tier S aimer, but they dont know how to play at professional level any valorant character, and in my bronze mind he is 100% aim no brain
he is the IGL for liquid. he cant be all aim no brain.
Skaydi [#81]I agree on that part, but on average he just can't frag. He may clucth up some critical rounds, but he usually gets outaimed
Bruh no one rate fns on the basis of his aim and your here saying he is overrated lol
SKara [#86]Bruh no one rate fns on the basis of his aim and your here saying he is overrated lol
bro during M1 and whenever OPTC wins against a prominent team I have seen so many posts overrating him
NG1nS [#65]yes soooo 4 games ? lmao
that fits my EXTREMELY SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME line, does it not?
to put it into perspective that's the same amount of games SEIDER played for FPX this mastersALSO i want yo say i don't think scream lost his touch or anything this response is only for people that think he did and make igling the Reason
now let's see the downvotes with no replies, truth hurts sometimes
hasnt he been igling since iceland? from what i remember, after not qualifying for iceland, the team planned for l1nk to igl but when they got invited, the plan was scrapped and scream had to step up to igl.
Pogtestic [#91]Yay
yay had the best rating this vct there's no way in hell he's overrated as of right now
MourninggStarr [#12]Sinatraa
by far the most overrated player ever until he actually plays and we can decide it then
NG1nS [#64]and that reason is? i like to hear it from ur mouth
koldamenta and bonecold dropped a -20 in a single elim bracket vs Vitality
Sprouts [#32]he was rated as one of the top three IGLs in NA when he joined T1
100t in Berlin???? , and what happened after steel left????
trembolonaRage [#70]https://clips.twitch.tv/CrackyCovertCheddarDogFace-ArHXkjXB-ywZo2Rx
https://clips.twitch.tv/SassyDoubtfulSwanPoooound-qZjtmA5afZxFkn9c
https://www.twitch.tv/mwzera/clip/TriumphantUninterestedOrangeBleedPurple-tGeykAGnQYxjCrz7just from yesterday's stream :)
Theres no way youre sending twitch highlights from his stream to defend him lmao
Zerosense [#100]imma say based on lately performance
guild-russ
fpx - ange1
optic-fns
and tsm
All of these players are critical for their teams they just don’t frag out
m8te [#101]All of these players are critical for their teams they just don’t frag out
i may agree with fns and ange1 but not russ tho
hiimnsk [#99]Sacy and aspas by a mile
How?
You can argue about sacy, but how the fuck is aspas overrated?
hiimnsk [#99]Sacy and aspas by a mile
Nah, Aspas is cracked
And I wouldn't say that Sacy is overrated
Marty [#104]Overrated by the masses: victor
Overrating themselves: bcj, man couldn't prove anything on Lan and came in saying he was top 2 initiator itw
BCJ is ass tbh, no way he's even top-3 initiator
Aqr8 [#69]ardiis. good player but still overrated. most overrated must be tenz.
Ardiis definitely underrated, never seen any respect on him pulling yay level chamber usage
GANJAUSER [#34]crashies, he has like one good match and says he is the best intiator itw
He never said he was the best initiator itw you braindead clown.
Nepchaaa [#9]Victor. Idk why everytime optic play he gets praised like he is gods gift to valorant while yay, marved, and most of the time crashies do more for the team, and even most of the time entry more.
When has anyone hyped up Victor as gods gift to valorant? Are you braindead?
hiimnsk [#97]Theres no way youre sending twitch highlights from his stream to defend him lmao
that's all he has 💀
CRAZY_CHAINSAW_MAN_FAN [#94]by far the most overrated player ever until he actually plays and we can decide it then
Wild how the guy you replied to got huge upvotes and you get downvoted.
You're just stating fax bro.
Nobody can be considered "amazing" until he can prove he can keep up - so yes, overrated. The lack of opportunities and why he doesn't have any is a different factor altogether.
Revlo [#113]Yay owns derke. Yay farmed PRX, Derke got destroyed.
Yay got farmed by Guild. derke destroyed Guild
BIGGEST_VS_FAN [#3]boaster as igl
boaster is valued so highly because of his work ethic. I dont doubt that he is the hardest working person in the valorant world and he provides so much value due to this in the form of strategic creativity and difficulty in antistrating fnc
Metal [#4]TenZ in 2021
People acted like no one can beat him in aim duels
the fact that you specifically say 2021 just invalidates your claim cause he was absolutely fucking nutty that year other than on split
Nepchaaa [#9]Victor. Idk why everytime optic play he gets praised like he is gods gift to valorant while yay, marved, and most of the time crashies do more for the team, and even most of the time entry more.
true
avepalto [#21]mwzera
@trembolonaRage
actually yea that one never occurred to me... maybe because it turned out he was trash and never accomplished anything on stage
deathlyclaws [#27]Ethan
no i dont think he was ever overrated. Hes just a good initiator and thats about it
Zerosense [#100]imma say based on lately performance
guild-russ
fpx - ange1
optic-fns
and tsm
ange1 shows up on GF and nobody rates russ rly high
Akukko [#107]Ardiis definitely underrated, never seen any respect on him pulling yay level chamber usage
because he didn't pull yay level chamber usage
NG1nS [#51]yo we're gonna have a problem here buddy
jk he dropped the ball for 2022 but what i saw against fpx the ladt match they played made me hope for a comebackthe man went +19 on kd and 15-9 fk, all that while they lost
now u can't tell me cNed isn't back baby
https://www.vlr.gg/107527/funplus-phoenix-vs-acend-champions-tour-emea-stage-2-challengers-playoffs-lr1
the match if anyone cares against FPX the current masters winners but i have to say fpx at the time was no where near fpx this masters soo truth must be said
there you go buddy! he stoped playing random games at steam aswell now his full praccing and playing DM ranked he is ready to go. IM HYPED SO MUCH!
JustHunter [#126]the fact that you specifically say 2021 just invalidates your claim cause he was absolutely fucking nutty that year other than on split
so he was nutty only on jett/reyna
ButterflyEffect23 [#106]BCJ is ass tbh, no way he's even top-3 initiator
not even top 3 initiator in na kekw
Revlo [#109]When has anyone hyped up Victor as gods gift to valorant? Are you braindead?
A lot of people, especially after stage one masters
Revlo [#109]When has anyone hyped up Victor as gods gift to valorant? Are you braindead?
PlatChat kept hyping him up a lot
Aqr8 [#68]who does overrate him? correct, no one.
Everyone from EMEA coming to this masters was talking about how insane his form was
kapteN [#117]All the stream gods
Wardell
TenZ
Subroza
PROD
Sinatraa
mwzeraIt's also a bit early to tell but shroud is being praised to heavens by 50% and the other 50% said he's complete ass. Feel like a weird mix of over- and underrated.
Prod gets clowned all the time
SigmaMale [#143]Prod gets clowned all the time
should look at comments on youtube lol for the average prod enjoyer opinions
lorenzopajaroFC [#142]Everyone from EMEA coming to this masters was talking about how insane his form was
who bcz i'm from EMEA and I didn't see anyone saying that?
we were talking about Enzo a lot maybe u got them mixed up
Aqr8 [#69]ardiis. good player but still overrated. most overrated must be tenz.
i honestly agree a bit but at the same time idk he looked good this masters, but i don't think he's derke or yay level
imo fpx power ranking is like this
shao
suygetsu
zyppan
ardis
ange1
number1_MIBR_hater [#141]he's an onliner
ur the guy who said aspas did better and then someone pulled up the stats for this masters and apperantly alfajer had a higher acs than aspas this masters kkkkkkkkkkkkk with more rounds played even lol
ig u couldn't get over it huh
NG1nS [#150]ur the guy who said aspas did better and then someone pulled up the stats for this masters and apperantly alfajer had a higher acs than aspas this masters kkkkkkkkkkkkk with more rounds played even lol
ig u couldn't get over it huh
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i'm glad you're keeping track of my posts, i'm not always keeping track of everything, so i'm glad you're doing it!
lmao dude u can't even respond to that
number1_ScreaM_fan [#2]Zeek
Idk why people still treat him like the god he was during champs. Like he still is quite good but not champions mvp form rn
The entire roster of Lulquid is the most overrated squad ever, other than ScreaM. This team has collectively achieved nothing in valulrant, and only gets embarrassed on the biggest tourney
Masters 2 2021, fucking lose to V1, embarrassment to EMEA
Champions: Got exposed by acend, the way better team, it wasnt even close.
Masters 1: Gets a chance to get into stage even though not deserved and loses embarrassingly to Japan and Loud
The only good thing they did was knock out two NA teams in champs but they are the worst region anyways
Hecking_Love_Sentinalese [#155]The entire roster of Lulquid is the most overrated squad ever, other than ScreaM. This team has collectively achieved nothing in valulrant, and only gets embarrassed on the biggest tourney
Masters 2 2021, fucking lose to V1, embarrassment to EMEA
Champions: Got exposed by acend, the way better team, it wasnt even close.
Masters 1: Gets a chance to get into stage even though not deserved and loses embarrassingly to Japan and Loud
The only good thing they did was knock out two NA teams in champs but they are the worst region anyways
losing to v1 was embarrasing
champions they lost to the winners so not embarrasing
masters 1 they lost to 3rd and 2nd place also not embarrasing cuz they got really close
kristof [#122]Yay got farmed by Guild. derke destroyed Guild
Yay playoff stats > Derke playoff stats mald about it shitter.