Americas Franchise discuss, come

Hi guys, I've been discussing with some friends about the franchise system and we were trying to identify the 30 best NA players that will possibly be in the franchise in 2023, taking into account that there will be 6 NA, 2 BR, and 2 LATAM teams, I came to this conclusion and would like the opinion of those of you who watch NA tournaments often and understand it better than I do.

I preferred to distribute the roles as follows: Duelist - Flex - Initiator - Controller - Operator. Considering possible nerfs in Chamber, the fixed operator will tend to play with another agent.

North America - 6 teams (Not in order):

Duelists: Victor - Zekken - Leaf - TenZ - Jawgemo - Babybay
Flex: FNS - SicK - Asuna - Ethan - Xeppa - Zellsis
Initiators: Crashies - Trent - Bcj - Derrek - Xeta - eeiu
Controllers: Marved - Bang - Skuba - Valyn - Vanity - Zander
Operators: Yay - Cryocells - Sayaplayer - Bdog - Dicey - Boostio

LATAM - 2 teams:

KRU: Keznit - Mazino - Klaus - Delz1k - NagZet
Leviatán**: Kingg - Adverso - Shyy - Melser - Tacolilla

Brazil - 2 teams:

LOUD: Aspas - Saadhak - Sacy - pANcada - Less
New Superteam***: Mwzera - QCK - nzr - frzGOD - heat
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** - Most likely the organization won't get access to the franchise but the lineup should stick together, maybe Fusion can get that if Riot wants a LATAM North team, I still have no idea.

*** - A possible superteam assembled on my own that I believe is possible for the franchise.

I'd like to hear your thoughts on NA players and IGLs who are essential to this list and who should be in the franchise, what do you all think?

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COMMON NOYN W

Common Noyn W

Noyn, is it confirmed that the league will have 10 teams?

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I’d prefer skuba/bang/aproto over AYRIN/supamen, but otherwise pretty good

hiyo [#5]

Noyn, is it confirmed that the league will have 10 teams?

Also W post

Yes yes, Riot wont change it

Noodle [#6]

I’d prefer skuba/bang/aproto over AYRIN/supamen, but otherwise pretty good

They can be there fr

i think saya would be entry and tenz would be opper, considering that sen picked up a flex that has also been known for being good on entry as well.

Noodle [#6]

I’d prefer skuba/bang/aproto over AYRIN/supamen, but otherwise pretty good

this

Noyn [#7]

Yes yes, Riot wont change it

when did they say it was 10

Mapusaurus [#11]

when did they say it was 10

George Geddes leaked it, apparently 8-10 teams per league

Cresp [#9]

i think saya would be entry and tenz would be opper, considering that sen picked up a flex that has also been known for being good on entry as well.

Hmm, interesting, i can change it

Sprouts [#12]

George Geddes leaked it, apparently 8-10 teams per league

why

Mapusaurus [#11]

when did they say it was 10

Backstage information

I don't know if Leviathan has the money for that, even fusion. Not a big organization, they refused Luminosity which is bigger than them
If we don't include Brazil the only big Latam org that i can remember is KRU

But yeah most of these players should have a spot in the franchise

We will probably have more teams mixed with latam/br players

6 for na? Is too much

DrCamus [#16]

I don't know if Leviathan has the money for that, even fusion. Not a big organization, they refused Luminosity which is bigger than them
If we don't include Brazil the only big Latam org that i can remember is KRU

But yeah most of these players should have a spot in the franchise

We will probably have more teams mixed with latam/br players

Yes, but some BIG ORG can buy Leviatan's lineup

Common Noyn W W W w

matiasqnt [#17]

6 for na? Is too much

4 na 3 br 2 las 1 lan it would be fair

Edit: I don't know how to count xD

Where is BANG bro

DrCamus [#16]

I don't know if Leviathan has the money for that, even fusion. Not a big organization, they refused Luminosity which is bigger than them
If we don't include Brazil the only big Latam org that i can remember is KRU

But yeah most of these players should have a spot in the franchise

We will probably have more teams mixed with latam/br players

That's what I thought too. Leviatan and Fusion are both small organizations that won't be able to afford a move to LA for 4 years. Maybe 9z or Infinity would buy out one of the rosters?

bang for controller and its a W list

it is most expected that one of the organizations to get the Brazil spot is Furia, and they won't pay Mwzera and Heat's contractual fines. They will already have a lot of expenses to enter the franchise

DrCamus [#24]

it is most expected that one of the organizations to get the Brazil spot is Furia, and they won't pay Mwzera and Heat's contractual fines. They will already have a lot of expenses to enter the franchise

Wont be Furia

matiasqnt [#17]

6 for na? Is too much

I agree, It would be better if some of these NA orgs had to have 5 latam/br players

Noyn [#25]

Wont be Furia

Then we have MIBR or NIP

mw e heat vão sair da vk?

e quem jogaria de smoke nesse novo supertime?

Bro, for me, it doesn't make any sense to bring mwzera to a super team, it's obvious that he has possibly the best aim in the scenario, but he plays without brain, eats smoke and rush like a sick person, besides he doesn't accept criticism of his team about him (as we can see in the VK video on YT).

The next super team will need people who communicates well and makes good use of utilities, I thought something like:

Jzz - Duelist
Heat - chamber/operator
Nzr - flex
Frz - smoke (yes)
Shion - 2nd flex

DrCamus [#27]

Then we have MIBR or NIP

Godsent and 00Nation also applied for Bronzil :D

andreziN [#28]

mw e heat vão sair da vk?

e quem jogaria de smoke nesse novo supertime?

Se a VK não conseguir a franquia sim. Ta na ordem, eu coloquei o Frz.

Noyn [#7]

Yes yes, Riot wont change it

Top IGLs from your list:

S: FNS, Saadhak, Vanity
A: Dephh, Adverso, Klaus, Valyn
B: Nzr, Zander, boostio

I think you need to list a couple more NA IGLs, NA has a severe lack of good IGLing and it's reflected in their playstyle (outside of OPTC/C9/maybe XSET)

TothVlr [#29]

Bro, for me, it doesn't make any sense to bring mwzera to a super team, it's obvious that he has possibly the best aim in the scenario, but he plays without brain, eats smoke and rush like a sick person, besides he doesn't accept criticism of his team about him (as we can see in the VK video on YT).

The next super team will need people who communicates well and makes good use of utilities, I thought something like:

Jzz - Duelist
Heat - chamber/operator
Nzr - flex
Frz - smoke (yes)
Shion - 2nd flex

Even with Onur coaching him? :D

Noyn [#25]

Wont be Furia

really, I thought they'd be the favorite outside of LOUD to get the spot

matiasqnt [#17]

6 for na? Is too much

2 for latam is too much, tier 3 regions like latam and brazil should split 1 slot between the 2 of them, let NA have 9

where tf is crunchy

Seriously only 2 places for BR and 2 places for LATAM? And 6 places for NA? what a JOKE

hiyo [#34]

really, I thought they'd be the favorite outside of LOUD to get the spot

Me too

Ovejadepoder [#37]

Seriously only 2 places for BR and 2 places for LATAM? And 6 places for NA? what a JOKE

NA orgs have money, that's all riot cares about.

NA orgs combined could probably buy all the teams from masters easily

DrCamus [#16]

I don't know if Leviathan has the money for that, even fusion. Not a big organization, they refused Luminosity which is bigger than them
If we don't include Brazil the only big Latam org that i can remember is KRU

But yeah most of these players should have a spot in the franchise

We will probably have more teams mixed with latam/br players

Money is not a problem for Leviatan
I dont know how, but FerMagoDiez is stupid rich

Ovejadepoder [#37]

Seriously only 2 places for BR and 2 places for LATAM? And 6 places for NA? what a JOKE

RIOT loves NA money

Noyn [#38]

Me too

q aconteceu noyn?

Flamephoenix [#35]

2 for latam is too much, tier 3 regions like latam and brazil should split 1 slot between the 2 of them, let NA have 9

It's going to be awesome to watch Brazilians stomping NA players in their own region just like in CS.

DrCamus [#43]

It's going to be awesome to watch Brazilians stomping NA players in their own region just like in CS.

Factos

TothVlr [#29]

Bro, for me, it doesn't make any sense to bring mwzera to a super team, it's obvious that he has possibly the best aim in the scenario, but he plays without brain, eats smoke and rush like a sick person, besides he doesn't accept criticism of his team about him (as we can see in the VK video on YT).

The next super team will need people who communicates well and makes good use of utilities, I thought something like:

Jzz - Duelist
Heat - chamber/operator
Nzr - flex
Frz - smoke (yes)
Shion - 2nd flex

holy W

DrCamus [#43]

It's going to be awesome to watch Brazilians stomping NA players in their own region just like in CS.

kekw when do loud play? bronzil superteam goes DEAD last in the recent masters. embarrassing even for a tier 4 region

hiyo [#32]

Top IGLs from your list:

S: FNS, Saadhak, Vanity
A: Dephh, Adverso, Klaus, Valyn
B: Nzr, Zander, boostio

I think you need to list a couple more NA IGLs, NA has a severe lack of good IGLing and it's reflected in their playstyle (outside of OPTC/C9/maybe XSET)

Give me some NA IGLs names please

Noyn [#41]

RIOT loves NA money

Fuck...

hiyo [#42]

q aconteceu noyn?

Twitter DMs, check

HackNaija [#36]

where tf is crunchy

who?

FZR e QCK... nope... noooooope

Noyn [#47]

Give me some NA IGLs names please

not statistically the best but some standouts:

FAZE POISED/flyuh (midround) (top3) A/B
NRG hazed (top4) A
100T Stellar/Derrek (midround) (top6) A/B
SR Dazzle (top8) B
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Poach (ex BBG/FAZE) B

Noyn [#25]

Wont be Furia

Impossível a fúria ter sido recusada é a melhor org BR

Noyn [#30]

Godsent and 00Nation also applied for Bronzil :D

NIP and Immortals are bigger than both.
00nation is a new org, bought by Nordavind, they're new in this Market
Same for Godsent that used to be Final tribe

Sad to know about it I still think that Furia is one of the better options here.

Noyn [#47]

Give me some NA IGLs names please

Shahzam (ehh), Poised, Stellar, Frosty, Zander, Hazed, Steel, Valyn, FNS, Dephh, Ayrin, Zellsis (only midrounding), Derrek (midrounder), dapr (midrounder) Dazzle, Aproto, Boostio, C0M.

Fuck reply glitch.

Ovejadepoder [#40]

Money is not a problem for Leviatan
I dont know how, but FerMagoDiez is stupid rich

Idk how, Sonó re ilegal jajsja

Noyn [#47]

Give me some NA IGLs names please

dazzle igl for SR
poised igl for faze
poach former igl for faze and bbg
stellar igl for 100t

Noyn [#33]

Even with Onur coaching him? :D

Well, I think that Onur will continue in LATAM, but if he was going to train Mwzera, he would have to make sure the player would listen to him

DrCamus [#54]

NIP and Immortals are bigger than both.
00nation is a new org, bought by Nordavind, they're new in this Market
Same for Godsent that used to be Final tribe

Sad to know about it I still think that Furia is one of the better options here.

Not really, 00Nation is applying with insane budget for Valorant

Tosspoa [#51]

FZR e QCK... nope... noooooope

Why not?

Noyn [#61]

Why not?

Both are good players, but not close to top talent in the region.

frz de smoke?

A distribuição de vagas é confirmada? Se sim, isso pode acabar com cenário do latam e Br, se não tiver nenhum camp internacional para o vct

Hirai7 [#53]

Impossível a fúria ter sido recusada é a melhor org BR

Você não sabe o que rola nos bastidores.

DNRIIS [#64]

A distribuição de vagas é confirmada? Se sim, isso pode acabar com cenário do latam e Br, se não tiver nenhum camp internacional para o vct

Sim, vão ter outros torneios internacionais fora do VCT (esse vai ser só pras franquias), e terão circuitos academy também

number1_MIBR_hater [#63]

frz de smoke?

Eu acho que ele tem potencial e conhecimento de jogo pra fazer a função em alto nível, ele também ajudaria o NZR com as calls durante os rounds

DrCamus [#43]

It's going to be awesome to watch Brazilians stomping NA players in their own region just like in CS.

Your only good team is loud the rest are shit.

i just don't understand why they don't do SA and NA franchises, Americas franchise doesnt even make sense geographically.

This is so upsetting for LATAM and BR fans

Enzolp [#69]

i just don't understand why they don't do SA and NA franchises, Americas franchise doesnt even make sense geographically.

This is so upsetting for LATAM and BR fans

+1

This is a great tread to distribute each well-known players into their roles. I just wish to see rising stars, mainly in the NA and Brazil scene, make an impact in franchising teams later next year or in the future.

Enzolp [#69]

i just don't understand why they don't do SA and NA franchises, Americas franchise doesnt even make sense geographically.

This is so upsetting for LATAM and BR fans

South America franchise would be dope, Libertadores vibe 🔥

Kuuga [#71]

This is a great tread to distribute each well-known players into their roles. I just wish to see rising stars, mainly in the NA and Brazil scene, make an impact in franchising teams later next year or in the future.

There will be academy circuit with franchise teams

Noyn [#73]

There will be academy circuit with franchise teams

I'm probably going to guess, but it would probably be similar to League's Proving Grounds events, right?

00 super team
nova potencia mundial

matiasqnt [#57]

Idk how, Sonó re ilegal jajsja

Boludo vos viste las cosas que saca Leviatan cada dos por tres? Luken Y Meyern, 21 jugadores de csgo, academia de csgo, equipos de Mobile, Valorant de alto nivel, Equipazo de LoL, Influencers, el cm mas cotizado de twitter junto a uno de los mejores equipos de imagen... Ya llega un punto que creo que ahi lavan guita, Fer mismo dijo que estan laburando a perdida porque considera que la industria explota en dos años

serene [#75]

00 super team
nova potencia mundial

A 00 ta vindo quente, espero que eles montem uma panela forte

Common Noyn W, vamo zero zeroo

Bro didn’t put Wardell in Operators

EU_quiet [#79]

Bro didn’t put Wardell in Operators

who?

i excpect a new shape of KRU + LEV which hopefully will be a superteam

avepalto [#80]

who?

He makes Derke look like a toddler

"New Superteam***: Mwzera - QCK - nzr - frzGOD - heat"
HOLLYY JSSUSSSSS

honestly anything that involves mwzera + nrz would be super strong

EU_quiet [#82]

He makes Derke look like a toddler

yeah because he has proved that on the recent masters, oh wait, he hasn't been on masters

avepalto [#84]

yeah because he has proved that on the recent masters, oh wait, he hasn't been on masters

Why u comparing teams in individual player discussion?

Rabbiit [#78]

Common Noyn W, vamo zero zeroo

ZERO ZEROOOO

Noyn [#60]

Not really, 00Nation is applying with insane budget for Valorant

Particularly I will be very frustrated not to see Brazilian organizations like Furia and Mibr not representing us.....00 Nation, Godsent and even NiP (except because they have been involved with our esports scene for a long time) does not represent our evolution in the scenario in relation to organizations

EU_quiet [#85]

Why u comparing teams in individual player discussion?

Wardell has only played on his region
Derke on the other hand has proved himself so may times internationally

Cayub [#86]

ZERO ZEROOOO

kkkk esse audio é pika demais

inlucid [#83]

"New Superteam***: Mwzera - QCK - nzr - frzGOD - heat"
HOLLYY JSSUSSSSS

honestly anything that involves mwzera + nrz would be super strong

Will be new NIP?? or what's your thoughts about what might be the franchised team?

jyggalag01 [#68]

Your only good team is loud the rest are shit.

flair check

Tosspoa [#51]

FZR e QCK... nope... noooooope

u mean frz or nzr?

inlucid [#83]

"New Superteam***: Mwzera - QCK - nzr - frzGOD - heat"
HOLLYY JSSUSSSSS

honestly anything that involves mwzera + nrz would be super strong

are you talking about nzr or frz??

AverageSovaMain [#90]

Will be new NIP?? or what's your thoughts about what might be the franchised team?

i have no idea, noyn said that furia probably wont make it, and 00nation/godsent have also applied to the system, so its really open

ZeZeGusT [#87]

Particularly I will be very frustrated not to see Brazilian organizations like Furia and Mibr not representing us.....00 Nation, Godsent and even NiP (except because they have been involved with our esports scene for a long time) does not represent our evolution in the scenario in relation to organizations

LOUD will be there

Rabbiit [#78]

Common Noyn W, vamo zero zeroo

ZERO ZERÔÔÔÔÔ

avepalto [#81]

i excpect a new shape of KRU + LEV which hopefully will be a superteam

Who would u change on KRU?

Noyn [#18]

Yes, but some BIG ORG can buy Leviatan's lineup

Infinity is the org in LAN with more money if I’m not wrong

Flamephoenix [#35]

2 for latam is too much, tier 3 regions like latam and brazil should split 1 slot between the 2 of them, let NA have 9

bro you're canadian most irrelevant country ever

wardell 1000% is more talented than boostio, bdog, and saya. so if he wants to play in franchising, he will.

AladdinINSANE [#99]

bro you're canadian most irrelevant country ever

It was a good country before Trudeau..

Noyn [#95]

LOUD will be there

Fluxo.. kkk

99% sure will be 00Nation.. Their money seems limitless..

AladdinINSANE [#99]

bro you're canadian most irrelevant country ever

brazil only known for high crimerates and psychopaths

Noyn [#97]

Who would u change on KRU?

NagZet and Delz1k if they don't improve enough. Taco and Melser are on way better shape imo

10 seems to small for an Americas league. Not sure why it could be split in 2 and have 8 per league or something. Idk.

6 NA, 3 BR & 1LATAM or 2BR & 2LATAM

That’s more then likely the split.

Phamous [#106]

10 seems to small for an Americas league. Not sure why it could be split in 2 and have 8 per league or something. Idk.

6 NA, 3 BR & 1LATAM or 2BR & 2LATAM

That’s more then likely the split.

That or just doing 12 teams would infinitely be better for all 3 regional leagues

Mannnn 10 slots is wayyyyy to less for THREE regions that have so much talent. It’s going to kill talent from regions especially when there are so many good players from NA, BR, and LATAM.

add mada

dejikke [#91]

flair check

I don't think you can say that if your super team came last in the most recent tournament and their team came 6th

Common Noyn W

unknown_trash [#110]

I don't think you can say that if your super team came last in the most recent tournament and their team came 6th

that's what i said

Noyn [#65]

Você não sabe o que rola nos bastidores.

spoiler, safado

im not following brazilian scene but from what i see, loud should get the spot or their lineup will easily be picked up, even if its from different org, and maybe another brazilian org will create a new super team, mwzera and heat should be the first name to join the team, what about the guys from NIP, xand seems like a good pick up, he's quite versatile from what i observe.

equinoxyy [#114]

im not following brazilian scene but from what i see, loud should get the spot or their lineup will easily be picked up, even if its from different org, and maybe another brazilian org will create a new super team, mwzera and heat should be the first name to join the team, what about the guys from NIP, xand seems like a good pick up, he's quite versatile from what i observe.

He is good but just that, in addition to dubious decision-making he has a terrible communication in the game, Qck besides being a better player and being more flexible is a smarter and calmer player.

If it is to talk about a super team, I think no one from Nip would fit, of course Cauanzin is insane and Bezn too, but compared to Nrz, Frz and Qck they are not competitors