No it quite literally is only on dephh and sykko.
There are much smaller issues that lead to small mistakes in the team like poor trading and spacing, miscomms, and inconsistency but those are small things that wouldn't matter if they got the big things right like calls execs comps and comfortability.
This team was 1 kill from 2-0ing loud during louds peak in the league

You aren't the brightest huh?

dephh had 0 kills in 7 rounds on haven against loud.

he was the deciding factor in the loss and they would’ve qualified for tokyo at least if he held his own. dephh was not it this season.

Literally all you have to hear. Sen were 1 kill away from 2-0ing loud and qualifying to the playoffs. If dephh went 5-17 instead of going 4-19 the entire tragectory of the team would've been completely different. It's literally only on dephh and sykko for the failures of the previous iteration.

No one did, I'm not answering anyone's questions, it's called a forum for a reason idiot

Look at my dephh post, there are reasons to it, if they just stick to this roster theyll at the very least do good next year

"the whole team is putting in effort except tenz because I don't like that he has a bunch of 12 year old dick riders"

Why was it doomed from the start? Literally everything started falling apart cause of dephh. It's not all his fault but that's why I also blame sykko. When they picked him up I didn't think nepotism and bias would be an issue the team would face and clearly I was wrong

Well simply because shahz isn't franchising worthy it's that simple. Doesn't mean he isn't great as an individual or as an anti strat asset to the team but his IGLing style is out of meta and just doesn't work nowadays unless you have a roster like FNC

Can we just review how fucked Sen was by dephh and sykko over the course of 2023.
This guy single handedly played with a team of 3 champions (before marved) and managed to botch probably the easiest success story we would've seen in Val.
ORIGINAL ROLES:
Dephh: sentinel
Sacy: support ini
Pancada: controller
Zekken: flex
Tenz: duelist
Dephh didn't want to play sentinel while IGLing and so Sykko treated him like a little prince who would get his way everytime by allowing him to move to initiator and you can see how that completely fucked the entire team comp.
And people still manage to say sentinels had an entire year to make the team work, yea that's bullshit. This is exactly why they dropped sykko and I love the guy but he needs to completely remove personal bias (clearly still hasn't considering dephh is on M80 now).
Thanks for the year dephh and sykko, y'all are the only ones who could pick up sacy pancada and zekken yet still make it flop.

wheres sen?

x_x

its not about pulling out, ppl just dont realize that yea currently it isnt safe and its point as of current isnt to create such a friendly environment and road to tier 1 but instead to be a grueling long fight towards proving that you can hang with the best.
Riot are always fixing everything in their game and tier 2 is an obvious priority after setting up and settling on how they wanted tier 1 to be.

boaster a controller main is still a better initiator than bcj is

because bcjs 50 fans dont like facts

NRG are the opposite of contenders, everyone knows theyre good enough to make high placing finishes but never actually win anything. For as long as victor and ardiis are their entries and fraggers, nrg are getting nowhere

holy shit finally i found someone who fucking gets that even tho Optic was genuinely good, their copenhagen run was the flukiest 3rd place in val history (mostly cause at that point we only started getting lower brackets but you get me)

i hope PRX win just to see a pacific team win and so that we dont fall into a Fnatic dynasty

crazy how boaster is fragging harder than both mindfreak and davai yet you manage to say he isnt 50% of the reason fnc have won 2 trophies

Aaah gotchu, makes sense but marved ain't too bad at IGLing. Definitely better than dephh was.
Zekken and sacy make a lot of the on the fly calls, it feels more like the team is very adaptable like prx

Why do you want more changes? Just stick to the guns and you'll be alright. In terms of players you ain't getting much better than this.
We just need tenz to flex onto 1 or 2 more agents and we chillin

I think you mean buffoon

You can't go above 100%

Tf are you on bruh, it's Navi against one of the worst franchising teams itw. It ain't that crazy

'//,

Sources on the clones claim 🧐

Babysasuke with the realest takes, +1

If prx can do it, this team can definitely make top 3 without the greatest igl

They don't even play the same roles bruh. Tho Ethan is bar none the worst out of the 4

I mean while you're not wrong, I don't want to be supporting 2 players among 3 others I don't even like

He's one of the best franchising NA ops, better than zekken, Ardiis, taco, nagz, leaf
He's not amazing but he's still good with the op

No with the calibre of players Sen have I could see someone like valyn bringing them to a championship. Johnqt not so much tho, not enough experience

It Sen won lcq through upper brackets it would've been a question but now it's fnc all the way

Real

It's definitely not an individual's fault but I feel like marveds IGLing was too inconsistent and unstable. He was calling like a god against 100T but it didn't look the same on map 1 and 3 against C9 or any of the Lev match. Idk man it's sad to see cause I really wanna see all these players and staff succeed, they deserve it. The org is the one that doesn't deserve these players

They're not dropping anyone but sacy and pancada are leaving

They had a fucking ridiculous core bruh. Everything was set in stone by the time Leo and chronicle came in

Sadly we won't see that

The issue is the name Sen, not anything under the org. The players and staff could easily be the best in Americas but exactly like you said it feels like there's no foundation. The players are constantly fighting for their jobs and there's never any job safety with really anyone past zombs

No it's literally just that Sen don't have a real igl. Even with marved who hasn't igled in this era of valorant and hasn't igled in ages managed to play at a level where they looked like they could easily make a champions run

Dephh wasn't a full time igl, he was co igl, ayrin was main igl

Dephh couldn't even get a map off eh while eg were still mid

As a player he played the same as always, he just isn't a top tier igl and ngl he never was. If his IGLing was anywhere near the high tier 1 igls tho Sen would've easily wiped the floor with leviathan and probably c9 too

There's a reason dephh quit pro play, he can't keep up. Even his ideas weren't great at all, there was no way this team was going anywhere. If anything this failure is on dephh for not realising his weakness and leaving the team way earlier than he did

Blud is trying to lose in record time banning ascent and picking into fracture

-7 frags tells u everything

the fact that you think that automatically makes Loud better than Navi is crazy

true

g2 mimi

...are you braindead?
So by what youre inferring here, Sens Pearl is better than their Fracture because Sen picked pearl and havent picked fracture once?
Do you see what sort of shittery is coming out your mouth?

blud is trying to be the next babysasuke.
Calm down little bro, you aint getting anyone with this 1/8 bait