TSM vs FaZe who wins

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dexter000111

Who would win in this matchup.

I think FaZe Clan, coz their in-game chemistry looked better than TSM.

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TSM obviously has the better players lol

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dexter000111

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Extremely debatable statement

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CalypsoGHC

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Nah
Wardell > Babybay
Subroza > Shotup
Rossy > larrybanks
Corey > Dicey
Aleko > flyuh

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Bro im a tsm fan but
Wardaddy=babybay
Roza=shotup
Corey=dicey the other 2 are right and about ingame chemistry we cant say anything yet at all cuz the teams they have faced are nobodies

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Wardell is literally the best awper itw. Roza is looking like an aim god while shotup is a duelist main who was forced to play smokes by immortals. Corey = dicey is possible but we don’t know how good dicey is yet

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Bro Wardell being the best oper in the world is such a stupid thing to say 😂
It's just pure COPIUM
Wake up dude there are no stats to back up your claim
Also, TSM won't be making it out of this qualifier. TSM fans may downvote me for this but you'll see.

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Jokes on you tsm is winning masters it’s in the script

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Fluffyy

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COPIUM TSM IS WINNING CHAMPS

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plot armour

#30

dexter000111

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Sure buddy cope harder :D
Everyone knows 100T is winning everything this year

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yes 100T is winning everything in NA on LAN NA will get shit on

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dexter000111

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I beg to differ
100T are known to be beasts on LAN

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100t is a dogshit team that doesnt win aynthing

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i mean, you could just say wardell is the best OP-er NA. because he is, and NA is all that matters for the qualifier. it’s hard to argue worlds yet, even though i’m inclined to believe that wardell would give cned a run for his money.

shot_up was a duelist main, you’re right, but his aim is cracked. i’d say he’s equal to subroza until we see them play.

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not the script 😢

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ciro

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Wardell had one of the best operator stats in stage 3?

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i think he’s referring to international stats. which wardell doesn’t have. as far as NA, wardell is superior to every other OP-er including yay, who’s he’s outperformed in terms of 1v1s and op-ing both times.

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i like how you say there’s no stats to back it up yet, which is valid. and only 4 teams qualify out of 32 remaining at this point, so the odds aren’t in our favor. but i gotta cheer for the squad and believe they got what it takes to be top 4 this event. we’ll see tho, no downvote from me.

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bdzez

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cry more about stats bozo, wardell the best opper in the world.

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How can u say he is the best oper? From his streams? Wardell didn't even play in most of the 2nd half of last year and has nothing to show that he is the best oper.

Ps.- Not a wardell or TSM hater.

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bdzez

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I saw him play yesterday? Looked better than anyone else last year, and looks even better now

Wardell > everyone

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dexter000111

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"I saw him play yesterday"

Yeah against tier 3 teams. Wait till they face an actual team who actually know how to counter an op

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Corey should be on secondary duelist imo though. His Reyna and Raze are cold but his jett is looking moderately chilly in comparison

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I agree yeah but Jett creates more space than reyna, I’m pretty positive Corey is gonna play raze on maps like bind or maybe split

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babybay obviously better btw lmfao dont even need to read the rest

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deluded

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agree with everything but ShoT_UP > Subroza

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I AGREE, FAZE: two academy players, 1 one trick jett, 1 ex one trick jett, 1 duelist who plays astra

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TSM

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Tsm 2-1

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TSM 2-0

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I think TSM wins it but Faze gonna qualify from lowers.

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I think both tsm and faze qualify from lowers

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Plus 1 XSET and Rise are locked from upper

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Agreed

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Idk, Gen.G can take Rise that'll be close

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Maybe. Rhyme is really good but rise might have the best chemistry in na

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is that possible due to the bracket… i haven’t seen that in any pickems

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SnxZ

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https://www.vlr.gg/pickem/e111504c It is actually possible

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dexter000111

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Really ?
I think V1 and Rise qualify from upper and XSET and Gen.G from lower.

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TSM

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i’m hoping tsm takes the series. i’m basing that on my belief that larrybanks and flyuh will be exposed as mere ranked demons vs Tier 1 teams. wardell is a better player than dicey, despite losing to 100T (which was a better team) back in the day. i will say that shot_up could be a huge problem, man is fucking insane. like he could end up being the most cracked smoke player in NA.

i am NOT basing my prediction on the TSM 3-1 FaZe grand final from a few months ago, that shit was just a troll seeding match. This one should be closer.

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My bigger concern in the Jett diff
Corey is a good player but his Jett is not tier 1 in my opinion ( by this I mean of the level of TenZ, Asuna, leaf etc)
Babybay is clearly the better Jett imo

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yeah babybay obviously a better jett bc he played it over corey on faze. maybe tsm tries maps other than ascent/haven so corey can play reyna/raze and find more impact that way. something like icebox or split. i am happy with how corey entries though, it’s a breath of fresh air compared to wardell’s jett.

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Yeah TSM gotta pick Bind or Split

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i also forgot that rossy was shot_up’s IGL on IMT. so there’s the corey connection and shotup connection if tsm vs faze happens

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TSM

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farewellVAL

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Ya'll forgetting Faze play LG before TSM? I feel like they lose to LG....

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Honestly true gigachad bdog is gonna humble faze

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Both irrelevant tier2 garbage

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HAHAHHAAHHAHA

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L

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TSM

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Mjtchell

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On my pickems. I chose TSM because they're a more. established base while FaZe reworked their entire roster

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LouBag

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I picked TSM, but it’s pretty much a toss up.

Flyuh hasn’t impressed.

Subroza and Cory haven’t looked incredible either.

I think it really depends on who pops off. Wardell or Babybay.

Tsm 2-1

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Zaynio

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Bro its been two games for both teams, how tf are you gonna judge em

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bdzez

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I think he judged them based on the way they played in those 2 games each ,lmk if you have any other questions

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prims

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subrozas util usage on astra looked quite good. You can’t really call anything until the ro16 matchup (ro32 for faze because its against guard) so i think you shouldn’t treat these two matches as actual indicators

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Luminosity :)

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dexter000111

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GIGACHAD

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Close game, i would favor TSM because they have more experienced players

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no idea but it would be a shitshow thats for sure