Jinggg Propoganda?

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Yistyy

I don't really follow Pacific but someone explain this. Everyone calls him j0ng and says to replace him but he has the #4 rating in the whole region

https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/2379/champions-tour-2025-pacific-stage-1

Are haters just trying to push an agenda? Or is it empty stats and I am missing the deeper reasoning?

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that average rating drops to 1.0 if u take out DFM and GE games lol

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Yistyy

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Oh so he's just stat padding against trash teams. Makes sense.

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everyone has played ge and Dfm in alpha …

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Yeah that's why the rest of the top 5 besides invy also happens to be in alpha it's pretty easy to statspad when you have 2 garbage teams in your group ngl

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gamergirl

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not saying he's bad but that 1.16 is pretty inflated my g.

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LeCat

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Sure lets take out his 2(out of 5 btw) best games to say he's stat padding..You can say the same thing for Hyunmin, even dos9 if you take out the GenG game would fall by alot. Jing did well in all of the games but one.....

And if he didn't do well in those two games. Guess what PRX would have lost atleast the DFM game. Even if you subscribe prx have a inflexible duelist problem..the logical solution is to take out something, not jing

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dos9 averages 1.24 without GE and DFM

Hyunmin? 1.25.

which is my point

I agree about something though, very one dimensional player :)

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LeCat

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Dos9 best game was vs geng . Take that out and he fell to 1.1ish

Same as Hyunmin.

Question is if farming dfm and ge is that easy why didn't they do it

Either A : its soo easy that all their teammates also share the kills. In that case the rest of PRX is trash for not being able to farm those team

Or B : people just have good and bad game. And taking out half of their game where they perform well doesn't make sense

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yes its all cherry picking to suit peoples tastes, the jingg hate was valid, but hes been playing better. we need to focus on the actual culprits but people cant change their opinions, they solidify them for no reason whatsoever.

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SleepingSnorlax

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Hyunmin is literally doing a lot my guy and for dos9 even having a bad game against prx didn’t faulted his stats

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LeCat

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I agree 100% that they are amazing players. Point is if you take out their top 2 rated game ofc their rating fall drastically. You wouldn't discount dos9 by saying "But if you dont count his GenG game he's only above average" but why would that apply to Jing

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why would I take away from dos9 for absolutely dominating one of the best teams in the region, im not just picking and choosing jinggs two best games

im picking and chosing the worst teams in the region for every player!

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LeCat

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Then why didn't dos9 farm ge and dfm?

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gamergirl

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because against better teams his teammates who are worse than him are more likely to also farm, thus driving his stats down

dos9 takes over against the better teams. something jingg did sometimes, but other players did it more :)

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LeCat

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That is true. Which brings the problem: howdf are jing's teammates struggling even against DFM (GE game was a stomp, they all did well).

His rating is that high against bad teams because against bad teams his team still struggle.... Which means he's not the problem (also his rating is 1.05 not 1.00 without dfm and ge game)

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yvesaet

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im going to be real with you, he looks good, i think him playing smokes should suffice him he went +7 against bme in that loss

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Yistyy

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so i guess if prx decide to make roster moves after split 1, jinggg is safe

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Denjisideals

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He should be... The people I am looking with skepticism are probably D4v4i and Something??? But mainly D4v4i

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Effluxi

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They don't really need to make moves anymore. Their comps, while some aren't hard meta, are all fairly sound and well put together, finally after all this time, primarily thanks to Jingg now having doubled his agent pool and the meta opening up more.

The only liabilities agent wise are Something's Yoru in their split and lotus comps and D4v41's Vyse, which SHOULD both be fixable.

The rest just boils down to their larger issue they've had forever with overheating. That might be harder to fix, especially if they remain a single coach team.

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ZekaGoat

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All time, jinggg is prx's best player- specially internationally and it's not even close

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orangejuice

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haters gonna hate

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Agx192

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Basically haters and some are just doing that to ragebait jing Twitter fans but also certain vct analyst just hate jing and the team as whole sideshow for example been pushing this agenda of replacing him for years so there is a lot of copy cats.

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Denjisideals

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I think last year he kind of was a liability even during Kickoffs (though a bit less)
He was hogging the agent options. I am happy for him now. I just hate when people stop trying to find alternatives.

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Agx192

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Pretty sure it's thecoach's call

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i think its disingenuous to take out specifically the DFM and GE games only to judge him. I think a more accurate way to look at it is that the split had up and downs, BUT since patmen joined the team Jinggg had a 1.3 rating and has looked MUCH MUCH better than kickoff and the beginning of the split. It was a rocky split, but Patmen coming in and helping some of the roles seems to have helped Jinggg find a pretty good groove. Sample size matters, and we will see in the future if he can continue to play like this, or if it was a nice streak

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stats vs eye test