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eLxR

Is Leo still the best player to ever play Valo?
(lock In) ( VCT MASTERS TOKYO)

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Anoymouse

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no ur mom is

#MVGA #MAKEVLRGREATAGAIN

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w1atrak

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Cringe af

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Anoymouse

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just like ur flag and team lil bro

#MVGA #MAKEVLRGREATAGIAN

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fns

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malims

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fenis is the GOAT

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ARix145

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Fenis on my penis till I c0m.on my jawgemo

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lemondou

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fenis but with pe-

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eLxR

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lol

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starxito_sike

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yes, I miss him man

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Big_Potato

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Dont ever disrespect Newzera like that

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malims

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Newzera or XMS

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MindGoblin1

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yeah he needs to come back and put these dogs from NA on a leash again

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eLxR

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hahahahaha he can do it

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gamergirl

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will always maintain that aspas plays a harder role to get rating on, with worse teams, different teams, and has been better for longer, as well as higher peaks

mfs acting like leo was in his 2023 form last year, he wasnt

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eLxR

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true leo goated

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Juuberi

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mfs acting like leo hasnt placed top 4 rating in every single tourney hes been in since joining fnatic except for shanghai 2024 where he was sick. Meanwhile aspas must have the most inflated reputation of all time, sure hes one of the best duelists but people acting as if hes done something game changing over the most mid clips just because its aspas is so cringe. Best player of all time is Leo with absolutely 0 contest

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gamergirl

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im not denying that leo is a statistical darling but rating favors players who play further back way more than it favors duelists

just a fact, if you cant understand the nuance of statistics why debate? im not denying leo is good but using the rating argument when comparing a initiator who plays far back in the pack and only takes isolated winnable 1v1s vs a duelist is not how that works

again, aspas has also done it without superteams

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Juuberi

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Yk the initiator and like the rest of the team is literally there to set up the duelist for the opener, its not like hes diving in 1v3 every round winning it lmao. Saying duelist is "harder" than initiator because initiators play far back is just a below-diamond self report

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gamergirl

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setting up the duelist affects rating tho

entrying doesn't effect rating

you need to just step back and understand that leo's rating is disproportionately inflated vs aspas' rating. you can say he sets up the duelist it's true, but at the end of the day Leo only takes insanely winnable duels, thats why his KDR is always amazing. He's a no risk player, and thats fine, but somebody has to take the risk, you cant just favor someone because they play a position that doesn't need risk

there is no stat for space created or gravity, aspas literally has a gravity that other teams will avoid. you can't put LEO solo on an angle and win a round but you can do that with aspas

leo is a great system player, aspas is literally a system

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Juuberi

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"entrying doesnt affect rating" bro what ... also its very easy to say that someone is the best player if u literally dont look at the stats because theyre "skewed". Leo has the ratings and the stats because he plays his role PERFECTLY with literally no other player in his role (or across the game) that comes close to him, whereas theres multiple duelists who entries just as well as aspas albeit not as consistently (zmjkk, derke, jaw).

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gamergirl

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statistical darling

https://www.vlr.gg/248270/fnatic-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-ubqf

put leo on a team with 3 rookies and he couldnt touch what aspas is doing rn

period, hes great but the stats are inflated at the end of the day, high KDR, low damage players just farm rating

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Juuberi

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"put leo on a team with 3 rookies and he couldnt touch what aspas is doing rn" how tf can u say that while his stats not even just on fnatic but on guild prove otherwise, also what exactly is aspas doing rn? doing well in the most 1 team region vct has ever seen? This is what i mean aspas has the most inflated reputation, he hasnt done anything noteable in a while yet people still find a way to glaze him lmfao

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gamergirl

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he had trexx sayf a veteran igl on guild those are not rookies lmfao

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nobody___100

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he had koldamenta and russ too, who are worse than players, basically made his team net 0

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alienista1

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"he hasnt done anything noteable in a while" Ok, that’s definitely bait.

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Juuberi

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what has he done?

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lorenzopajaroFC

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True dat, in the past 90 days the fraud aspas has averaged only a 1.25 rating, while the goat leo has averaged “No agent data available for this period”

There’s levels to this shit 🔥🔥

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NecroXD

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Taking stats from 1 series to prove your point is really unscientific tbh

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gamergirl

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leo when his team is getting ragdolled and they need more than someone to trade kills
https://www.vlr.gg/348466/fnatic-vs-gen-g-champions-tour-2024-masters-shanghai-ubqf
https://www.vlr.gg/348468/fut-esports-vs-fnatic-champions-tour-2024-masters-shanghai-lr1
https://www.vlr.gg/303094/fnatic-vs-karmine-corp-champions-tour-2024-emea-kickoff-playoffs-sf
https://www.vlr.gg/248282/fnatic-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-lr3

aspas when his team is getting bullied and they need him, notice how hes not useless
https://www.vlr.gg/337414/g2-esports-vs-leviat-n-champions-tour-2024-americas-stage-1-lbf
https://www.vlr.gg/248283/evil-geniuses-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-lbf

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NecroXD

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Again, you take from games that fit your narrative. The overall stats speak for themselves.

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KennyJones

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Baitpas only performs well in the shitty americas league.. https://imgur.com/BtJnWrr

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eLxR

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because he is smart and can win every duels

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uwukitten

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leo can be said to have literally single-handedly dragged fnatic to shanghai last year, did you see how he was playing?

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gamergirl

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the top 3 seeds go to shanghai retard wytb LMFAO

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uwukitten

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you might actually be retarded
https://www.vlr.gg/341816/fnatic-vs-team-liquid-champions-tour-2024-emea-stage-1-knockout/?game=all&tab=overview
https://www.vlr.gg/341818/karmine-corp-vs-fnatic-champions-tour-2024-emea-stage-1-ubsf/?game=all&tab=overview

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Galactc

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Obviously nobody else will ever compare for a long time

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Final_Unemployed_Boss

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Best player statwise is either TenZ (plumber era) or Yay's chamber stats. Yay's chamber stat is still used as benchmark for performance evaluation by analysts.

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Juuberi

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how could u possibly justify that if u actually look at the stats tf 😂

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eLxR

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i am talking about best player overall

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destroylonely

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no

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Final_Unemployed_Boss

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bruh

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0atmeaLLL

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Dont know about Leo but FNS, s0m and Ethan are definitely pegging each other instead of practicing.

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glittering_yard

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nope, aspas better

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KennyJones

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Baitpas only performs well in the shitty americas league.. https://imgur.com/BtJnWrr

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lemondou

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Easily the best player in the world

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Raftlot

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Not an EMEA fan calling another league "shitty"
You gotta look at yourself first dude ☠️

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Tomczi

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0/8

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glittering_yard

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Aspas lowest placement at Champions: 3rd

Leo highest placement at Champions: 4th (eliminated and beaten twice by Aspas)

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Tomczi

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cherry picking

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glittering_yard

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Champions is the biggest international stage there is in Valorant, how is that cherry picking 😂

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0/8

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bE

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leo is the goat, don't let the bronzilians brainwash you

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PLRoox

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of course

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bombarillo

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leo is the goat, wish he comes back :(

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eLxR

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me to, need him back

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windwine

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leo pre franchise was already good and in 2023 champs was like top 3 player, masters top 3, lock in best player and througthout regular season also top 3 so like

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alienista1

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He wasn’t among the top 3 players at Champs. Not even the best initiator, as Cauanzin had a better performance in that tournament. Don’t be fooled by inflated stats due to an easy group stage. FNC’s performance against top-tier teams was quite disappointing.

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Pikachu_Gay

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He was sick during champs.. go watch Commend video

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lorenzopajaroFC

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Holy shit so he had two good tornaments and in the rest where he was average you’re just gonna keep the running the “sick” narrative, your goat is dead and is never touching this game again

Get over it

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Karbonat_Erol

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Lmao „avg“ he was top 5 in every international he went hahahah even on Guild and that on Ini aswell, I wanna see u touching a keyboard while vomiting from food poisoning ;)

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lorenzopajaroFC

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I wanna see leo touching a keyboard this year

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Karbonat_Erol

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;)

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eLxR

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lock in FNC VS LOUD

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Burger_brain

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least delulu brazillian:

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gold2peak

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https://www.vlr.gg/167393/loud-vs-fnatic-champions-tour-2023-lock-in-s-o-paulo-gf
Inflated stats due to easy opponents 😴

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alienista1

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That was Lock In bro. I'm talking about Champions only

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Karbonat_Erol

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Best player to touch the game, may God heal him so he can continue his legacy soon🙏🙏

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skrossi

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lemondou

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puchan fns mehta clears

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300poundbbg

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Leo is the undisputed GOAT

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eLxR

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMMh22ikCI8

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the havoc disrespect is crazy...

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eLxR

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but