Is Leo still the best player to ever play Valo?
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will always maintain that aspas plays a harder role to get rating on, with worse teams, different teams, and has been better for longer, as well as higher peaks
mfs acting like leo was in his 2023 form last year, he wasnt
gamergirl [#7]will always maintain that aspas plays a harder role to get rating on, with worse teams, different teams, and has been better for longer, as well as higher peaks
mfs acting like leo was in his 2023 form last year, he wasnt
true leo goated
MindGoblin1 [#6]yeah he needs to come back and put these dogs from NA on a leash again
hahahahaha he can do it
gamergirl [#7]will always maintain that aspas plays a harder role to get rating on, with worse teams, different teams, and has been better for longer, as well as higher peaks
mfs acting like leo was in his 2023 form last year, he wasnt
mfs acting like leo hasnt placed top 4 rating in every single tourney hes been in since joining fnatic except for shanghai 2024 where he was sick. Meanwhile aspas must have the most inflated reputation of all time, sure hes one of the best duelists but people acting as if hes done something game changing over the most mid clips just because its aspas is so cringe. Best player of all time is Leo with absolutely 0 contest
Best player statwise is either TenZ (plumber era) or Yay's chamber stats. Yay's chamber stat is still used as benchmark for performance evaluation by analysts.
Final_Unemployed_Boss [#12]Best player statwise is either TenZ (plumber era) or Yay's chamber stats. Yay's chamber stat is still used as benchmark for performance evaluation by analysts.
how could u possibly justify that if u actually look at the stats tf 😂
Juuberi [#10]mfs acting like leo hasnt placed top 4 rating in every single tourney hes been in since joining fnatic except for shanghai 2024 where he was sick. Meanwhile aspas must have the most inflated reputation of all time, sure hes one of the best duelists but people acting as if hes done something game changing over the most mid clips just because its aspas is so cringe. Best player of all time is Leo with absolutely 0 contest
im not denying that leo is a statistical darling but rating favors players who play further back way more than it favors duelists
just a fact, if you cant understand the nuance of statistics why debate? im not denying leo is good but using the rating argument when comparing a initiator who plays far back in the pack and only takes isolated winnable 1v1s vs a duelist is not how that works
again, aspas has also done it without superteams
Final_Unemployed_Boss [#17]bruh
Dont know about Leo but FNS, s0m and Ethan are definitely pegging each other instead of practicing.
gamergirl [#19]im not denying that leo is a statistical darling but rating favors players who play further back way more than it favors duelists
just a fact, if you cant understand the nuance of statistics why debate? im not denying leo is good but using the rating argument when comparing a initiator who plays far back in the pack and only takes isolated winnable 1v1s vs a duelist is not how that works
again, aspas has also done it without superteams
Yk the initiator and like the rest of the team is literally there to set up the duelist for the opener, its not like hes diving in 1v3 every round winning it lmao. Saying duelist is "harder" than initiator because initiators play far back is just a below-diamond self report
Juuberi [#22]Yk the initiator and like the rest of the team is literally there to set up the duelist for the opener, its not like hes diving in 1v3 every round winning it lmao. Saying duelist is "harder" than initiator because initiators play far back is just a below-diamond self report
setting up the duelist affects rating tho
entrying doesn't effect rating
you need to just step back and understand that leo's rating is disproportionately inflated vs aspas' rating. you can say he sets up the duelist it's true, but at the end of the day Leo only takes insanely winnable duels, thats why his KDR is always amazing. He's a no risk player, and thats fine, but somebody has to take the risk, you cant just favor someone because they play a position that doesn't need risk
there is no stat for space created or gravity, aspas literally has a gravity that other teams will avoid. you can't put LEO solo on an angle and win a round but you can do that with aspas
leo is a great system player, aspas is literally a system
gamergirl [#23]setting up the duelist affects rating tho
entrying doesn't effect rating
you need to just step back and understand that leo's rating is disproportionately inflated vs aspas' rating. you can say he sets up the duelist it's true, but at the end of the day Leo only takes insanely winnable duels, thats why his KDR is always amazing. He's a no risk player, and thats fine, but somebody has to take the risk, you cant just favor someone because they play a position that doesn't need risk
there is no stat for space created or gravity, aspas literally has a gravity that other teams will avoid. you can't put LEO solo on an angle and win a round but you can do that with aspas
leo is a great system player, aspas is literally a system
"entrying doesnt affect rating" bro what ... also its very easy to say that someone is the best player if u literally dont look at the stats because theyre "skewed". Leo has the ratings and the stats because he plays his role PERFECTLY with literally no other player in his role (or across the game) that comes close to him, whereas theres multiple duelists who entries just as well as aspas albeit not as consistently (zmjkk, derke, jaw).
leo pre franchise was already good and in 2023 champs was like top 3 player, masters top 3, lock in best player and througthout regular season also top 3 so like
Juuberi [#28]"entrying doesnt affect rating" bro what ... also its very easy to say that someone is the best player if u literally dont look at the stats because theyre "skewed". Leo has the ratings and the stats because he plays his role PERFECTLY with literally no other player in his role (or across the game) that comes close to him, whereas theres multiple duelists who entries just as well as aspas albeit not as consistently (zmjkk, derke, jaw).
statistical darling
https://www.vlr.gg/248270/fnatic-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-ubqf
put leo on a team with 3 rookies and he couldnt touch what aspas is doing rn
period, hes great but the stats are inflated at the end of the day, high KDR, low damage players just farm rating
gamergirl [#30]statistical darling
https://www.vlr.gg/248270/fnatic-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-ubqf
put leo on a team with 3 rookies and he couldnt touch what aspas is doing rn
period, hes great but the stats are inflated at the end of the day, high KDR, low damage players just farm rating
"put leo on a team with 3 rookies and he couldnt touch what aspas is doing rn" how tf can u say that while his stats not even just on fnatic but on guild prove otherwise, also what exactly is aspas doing rn? doing well in the most 1 team region vct has ever seen? This is what i mean aspas has the most inflated reputation, he hasnt done anything noteable in a while yet people still find a way to glaze him lmfao
gamergirl [#30]statistical darling
https://www.vlr.gg/248270/fnatic-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-ubqf
put leo on a team with 3 rookies and he couldnt touch what aspas is doing rn
period, hes great but the stats are inflated at the end of the day, high KDR, low damage players just farm rating
Taking stats from 1 series to prove your point is really unscientific tbh
windwine [#29]leo pre franchise was already good and in 2023 champs was like top 3 player, masters top 3, lock in best player and througthout regular season also top 3 so like
He wasn’t among the top 3 players at Champs. Not even the best initiator, as Cauanzin had a better performance in that tournament. Don’t be fooled by inflated stats due to an easy group stage. FNC’s performance against top-tier teams was quite disappointing.
Juuberi [#31]"put leo on a team with 3 rookies and he couldnt touch what aspas is doing rn" how tf can u say that while his stats not even just on fnatic but on guild prove otherwise, also what exactly is aspas doing rn? doing well in the most 1 team region vct has ever seen? This is what i mean aspas has the most inflated reputation, he hasnt done anything noteable in a while yet people still find a way to glaze him lmfao
he had trexx sayf a veteran igl on guild those are not rookies lmfao
Juuberi [#31]"put leo on a team with 3 rookies and he couldnt touch what aspas is doing rn" how tf can u say that while his stats not even just on fnatic but on guild prove otherwise, also what exactly is aspas doing rn? doing well in the most 1 team region vct has ever seen? This is what i mean aspas has the most inflated reputation, he hasnt done anything noteable in a while yet people still find a way to glaze him lmfao
"he hasnt done anything noteable in a while" Ok, that’s definitely bait.
alienista1 [#33]He wasn’t among the top 3 players at Champs. Not even the best initiator, as Cauanzin had a better performance in that tournament. Don’t be fooled by inflated stats due to an easy group stage. FNC’s performance against top-tier teams was quite disappointing.
He was sick during champs.. go watch Commend video
alienista1 [#35]"he hasnt done anything noteable in a while" Ok, that’s definitely bait.
what has he done?
NecroXD [#32]Taking stats from 1 series to prove your point is really unscientific tbh
leo when his team is getting ragdolled and they need more than someone to trade kills
https://www.vlr.gg/348466/fnatic-vs-gen-g-champions-tour-2024-masters-shanghai-ubqf
https://www.vlr.gg/348468/fut-esports-vs-fnatic-champions-tour-2024-masters-shanghai-lr1
https://www.vlr.gg/303094/fnatic-vs-karmine-corp-champions-tour-2024-emea-kickoff-playoffs-sf
https://www.vlr.gg/248282/fnatic-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-lr3
aspas when his team is getting bullied and they need him, notice how hes not useless
https://www.vlr.gg/337414/g2-esports-vs-leviat-n-champions-tour-2024-americas-stage-1-lbf
https://www.vlr.gg/248283/evil-geniuses-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-lbf
gamergirl [#38]leo when his team is getting ragdolled and they need more than someone to trade kills
https://www.vlr.gg/348466/fnatic-vs-gen-g-champions-tour-2024-masters-shanghai-ubqf
https://www.vlr.gg/348468/fut-esports-vs-fnatic-champions-tour-2024-masters-shanghai-lr1
https://www.vlr.gg/303094/fnatic-vs-karmine-corp-champions-tour-2024-emea-kickoff-playoffs-sf
https://www.vlr.gg/248282/fnatic-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-lr3aspas when his team is getting bullied and they need him, notice how hes not useless
https://www.vlr.gg/337414/g2-esports-vs-leviat-n-champions-tour-2024-americas-stage-1-lbf
https://www.vlr.gg/248283/evil-geniuses-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-lbf
Again, you take from games that fit your narrative. The overall stats speak for themselves.
NecroXD [#39]Again, you take from games that fit your narrative. The overall stats speak for themselves.
"you only take games where fnatic weren't shitting on random teams and only where fnatic were challenged"
even in lock in finals, aspas won loud the tournament, and his team sold, leo didnt make that comeback happen derke and alfajer did
but all the praise will go to leo because he had the highest rating and got the most trade kills rofl
gamergirl [#38]leo when his team is getting ragdolled and they need more than someone to trade kills
https://www.vlr.gg/348466/fnatic-vs-gen-g-champions-tour-2024-masters-shanghai-ubqf
https://www.vlr.gg/348468/fut-esports-vs-fnatic-champions-tour-2024-masters-shanghai-lr1
https://www.vlr.gg/303094/fnatic-vs-karmine-corp-champions-tour-2024-emea-kickoff-playoffs-sf
https://www.vlr.gg/248282/fnatic-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-lr3aspas when his team is getting bullied and they need him, notice how hes not useless
https://www.vlr.gg/337414/g2-esports-vs-leviat-n-champions-tour-2024-americas-stage-1-lbf
https://www.vlr.gg/248283/evil-geniuses-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-lbf
Baitpas only performs well in the shitty americas league.. https://imgur.com/BtJnWrr
KennyJones [#41]Baitpas only performs well in the shitty americas league.. https://imgur.com/BtJnWrr
atleast you accept alfa is better than leo too
glittering_yard [#18]nope, aspas better
Baitpas only performs well in the shitty americas league.. https://imgur.com/BtJnWrr
Pikachu_Gay [#36]He was sick during champs.. go watch Commend video
Holy shit so he had two good tornaments and in the rest where he was average you’re just gonna keep the running the “sick” narrative, your goat is dead and is never touching this game again
Get over it
Juuberi [#37]what has he done?
He broke the kill record in a Bo3.
Had insane performances at Champions 24.
Has been the best duelist in the Americas this year.
I doubt there are five players with better achievements in the same time frame. Saying those aren't notable accomplishments is just pure madness.
alienista1 [#45]He broke the kill record in a Bo3.
Had insane performances at Champions 24.
Has been the best duelist in the Americas this year.
I doubt there are five players with better achievements in the same time frame. Saying those aren't notable accomplishments is just pure madness.
Nobody will remember any of those „accomplishments“ in 3years :)
Juuberi [#37]what has he done?
b2b americas champion and mvp, b2b top 4 in champs, multiple records set statistically
all on 2 different rosters
Juuberi [#31]"put leo on a team with 3 rookies and he couldnt touch what aspas is doing rn" how tf can u say that while his stats not even just on fnatic but on guild prove otherwise, also what exactly is aspas doing rn? doing well in the most 1 team region vct has ever seen? This is what i mean aspas has the most inflated reputation, he hasnt done anything noteable in a while yet people still find a way to glaze him lmfao
True dat, in the past 90 days the fraud aspas has averaged only a 1.25 rating, while the goat leo has averaged “No agent data available for this period”
There’s levels to this shit 🔥🔥
lorenzopajaroFC [#44]Holy shit so he had two good tornaments and in the rest where he was average you’re just gonna keep the running the “sick” narrative, your goat is dead and is never touching this game again
Get over it
Lmao „avg“ he was top 5 in every international he went hahahah even on Guild and that on Ini aswell, I wanna see u touching a keyboard while vomiting from food poisoning ;)
Best player to touch the game, may God heal him so he can continue his legacy soon🙏🙏
KennyJones [#43]Baitpas only performs well in the shitty americas league.. https://imgur.com/BtJnWrr
Easily the best player in the world
Karbonat_Erol [#46]Nobody will remember any of those „accomplishments“ in 3years :)
So what? An achievement doesn’t need to be remembered for three years to be considered 'notable'. If we follow that logic, only five players would have 'notable' accomplishments each year.
KennyJones [#43]Baitpas only performs well in the shitty americas league.. https://imgur.com/BtJnWrr
Not an EMEA fan calling another league "shitty"
You gotta look at yourself first dude ☠️
gamergirl [#40]"you only take games where fnatic weren't shitting on random teams and only where fnatic were challenged"
even in lock in finals, aspas won loud the tournament, and his team sold, leo didnt make that comeback happen derke and alfajer did
but all the praise will go to leo because he had the highest rating and got the most trade kills rofl
I cant understand what point you are trying to make?
Getting trade kills doesnt make you worse, in fact, securing these kills can be more important than taking a risk that may or may not give you an advantage, but yet again you cant come with a general point that supports your argument, however, you yet again take 1 game as an example instead of looking at the overall stats.
alienista1 [#54]So what? An achievement doesn’t need to be remembered for three years to be considered 'notable'. If we follow that logic, only five players would have 'notable' accomplishments each year.
Ok now think for a sec… who will be remembered? Correct International winners and outstanding players winning these internationals! Like Demon1 Champs or FNC Lock In comeback, did Aspas achieve anything like this? Did he win a Masters or Champs this year? No, tell me, who was the best player from the 4th place team in champs 2022? ;)
Karbonat_Erol [#49]Lmao „avg“ he was top 5 in every international he went hahahah even on Guild and that on Ini aswell, I wanna see u touching a keyboard while vomiting from food poisoning ;)
I wanna see leo touching a keyboard this year
KennyJones [#43]Baitpas only performs well in the shitty americas league.. https://imgur.com/BtJnWrr
Aspas lowest placement at Champions: 3rd
Leo highest placement at Champions: 4th (eliminated and beaten twice by Aspas)
lorenzopajaroFC [#59]I wanna see leo touching a keyboard this year
;)
Karbonat_Erol [#58]Ok now think for a sec… who will be remembered? Correct International winners and outstanding players winning these internationals! Like Demon1 Champs or FNC Lock In comeback, did Aspas achieve anything like this? Did he win a Masters or Champs this year? No, tell me, who was the best player from the 4th place team in champs 2022? ;)
Where are you even going with this? The point isn’t if Aspas will be remembered in 10 years (he definitely will), it’s whether he’s done anything noteworthy lately. And honestly, you sound like you don’t even get what 'notable' means.
About your last question, I think it was Ardiis. That clutch vs DRX was insane.
gamergirl [#7]will always maintain that aspas plays a harder role to get rating on, with worse teams, different teams, and has been better for longer, as well as higher peaks
mfs acting like leo was in his 2023 form last year, he wasnt
leo can be said to have literally single-handedly dragged fnatic to shanghai last year, did you see how he was playing?
alienista1 [#62]Where are you even going with this? The point isn’t if Aspas will be remembered in 10 years (he definitely will), it’s whether he’s done anything noteworthy lately. And honestly, you sound like you don’t even get what 'notable' means.
About your last question, I think it was Ardiis. That clutch vs DRX was insane.
Ofc he will be remembered, but I said that nobody will remember him for the achievements u mentioned from that year, like u said „insane performances in Champs 24“, nobody cares if he hasn’t won ;( he has done barely anything that year and Leo has always impact even when he was ill and couldn’t even open his god damn mouth, he carried his team with the worst coach to an international, to End this, Aspas is good, had good years but Leo is untouchable and nothing will prove me otherwise ^_^ >.<
glittering_yard [#60]Aspas lowest placement at Champions: 3rd
Leo highest placement at Champions: 4th (eliminated and beaten twice by Aspas)
cherry picking
Raftlot [#56]Not an EMEA fan calling another league "shitty"
You gotta look at yourself first dude ☠️
0/8
gamergirl [#40]"you only take games where fnatic weren't shitting on random teams and only where fnatic were challenged"
even in lock in finals, aspas won loud the tournament, and his team sold, leo didnt make that comeback happen derke and alfajer did
but all the praise will go to leo because he had the highest rating and got the most trade kills rofl
other initiators are playing the same game yet put up nowhere near the same stats with nowhere near the same consistency
meanwhile you can find several duelists that perform as good as aspas, maybe a bit less consistent but still the difference isn't as big as the difference between leo and other initiators
uwukitten [#64]leo can be said to have literally single-handedly dragged fnatic to shanghai last year, did you see how he was playing?
the top 3 seeds go to shanghai retard wytb LMFAO
Tomczi [#66]cherry picking
Champions is the biggest international stage there is in Valorant, how is that cherry picking 😂
gamergirl [#23]setting up the duelist affects rating tho
entrying doesn't effect rating
you need to just step back and understand that leo's rating is disproportionately inflated vs aspas' rating. you can say he sets up the duelist it's true, but at the end of the day Leo only takes insanely winnable duels, thats why his KDR is always amazing. He's a no risk player, and thats fine, but somebody has to take the risk, you cant just favor someone because they play a position that doesn't need risk
there is no stat for space created or gravity, aspas literally has a gravity that other teams will avoid. you can't put LEO solo on an angle and win a round but you can do that with aspas
leo is a great system player, aspas is literally a system
because he is smart and can win every duels
Final_Unemployed_Boss [#12]Best player statwise is either TenZ (plumber era) or Yay's chamber stats. Yay's chamber stat is still used as benchmark for performance evaluation by analysts.
i am talking about best player overall
Karbonat_Erol [#65]Ofc he will be remembered, but I said that nobody will remember him for the achievements u mentioned from that year, like u said „insane performances in Champs 24“, nobody cares if he hasn’t won ;( he has done barely anything that year and Leo has always impact even when he was ill and couldn’t even open his god damn mouth, he carried his team with the worst coach to an international, to End this, Aspas is good, had good years but Leo is untouchable and nothing will prove me otherwise ^_^ >.<
true
lorenzopajaroFC [#44]Holy shit so he had two good tornaments and in the rest where he was average you’re just gonna keep the running the “sick” narrative, your goat is dead and is never touching this game again
Get over it
lock in FNC VS LOUD
Karbonat_Erol [#65]Ofc he will be remembered, but I said that nobody will remember him for the achievements u mentioned from that year, like u said „insane performances in Champs 24“, nobody cares if he hasn’t won ;( he has done barely anything that year and Leo has always impact even when he was ill and couldn’t even open his god damn mouth, he carried his team with the worst coach to an international, to End this, Aspas is good, had good years but Leo is untouchable and nothing will prove me otherwise ^_^ >.<
And didn't Aspas carry his team to two international events? I'm actually pretty sure Aspas had better performances, both internationally and regionally. I'm not downplaying Leo, he had a good 2024 and his 2023 was one of the best individual years we've seen from any player. But saying his 2024 was better than Aspas's is more than just crazy, it's straight up ignoring reality.
'Leo has always impact even when he was ill and couldn’t even open his god damn mouth, he carried his team with the worst coach to an international'
You know no one’s gonna remember this in three years, right? Lol
alienista1 [#33]He wasn’t among the top 3 players at Champs. Not even the best initiator, as Cauanzin had a better performance in that tournament. Don’t be fooled by inflated stats due to an easy group stage. FNC’s performance against top-tier teams was quite disappointing.
https://www.vlr.gg/167393/loud-vs-fnatic-champions-tour-2023-lock-in-s-o-paulo-gf
Inflated stats due to easy opponents 😴
gold2peak [#79]https://www.vlr.gg/167393/loud-vs-fnatic-champions-tour-2023-lock-in-s-o-paulo-gf
Inflated stats due to easy opponents 😴
That was Lock In bro. I'm talking about Champions only
alienista1 [#78]And didn't Aspas carry his team to two international events? I'm actually pretty sure Aspas had better performances, both internationally and regionally. I'm not downplaying Leo, he had a good 2024 and his 2023 was one of the best individual years we've seen from any player. But saying his 2024 was better than Aspas's is more than just crazy, it's straight up ignoring reality.
'Leo has always impact even when he was ill and couldn’t even open his god damn mouth, he carried his team with the worst coach to an international'
You know no one’s gonna remember this in three years, right? Lol
He carried his team bcs the sole purpose was to enable him, Tex and King throwing themselves on site so Aspas can take the nice duels ^.^ and they still placed 4th and ofc nobody will remember FNC champs run >_< why should they? They have won 2 internationals and are the first team to win them Back to back with Chron being the first one to win them on 2 separate teams v.v Leo achieved more than Aspas and is (w Persia) the best Player who has touched Val ;3
Karbonat_Erol [#83]He carried his team bcs the sole purpose was to enable him, Tex and King throwing themselves on site so Aspas can take the nice duels ^.^ and they still placed 4th and ofc nobody will remember FNC champs run >_< why should they? They have won 2 internationals and are the first team to win them Back to back with Chron being the first one to win them on 2 separate teams v.v Leo achieved more than Aspas and is (w Persia) the best Player who has touched Val ;3
Arguing with you is insane.
One moment you're saying Leo was better than Aspas in 2024, then you're talking about how Leo's achievements make him the Valorant GOAT, then you're saying Aspas’s accomplishments are irrelevant, that he's a baiter, and no one will remember them in three years.
Man, I don't give a damn about Leo's two international events in 2023, that doesn't make his 2024 better than Aspas's.
The discussion was never about whether Leo is the GOAT or not. You think Leo is the GOAT, I don’t. Honestly, that never bothered me.
The only thing that bothers me is you thinking Leo had a better 2024 than Aspas and downplaying what Aspas achieved this year.
This is probably my last post, otherwise this debate is gonna go on forever."
gamergirl [#34]he had trexx sayf a veteran igl on guild those are not rookies lmfao
he had koldamenta and russ too, who are worse than players, basically made his team net 0
nobody___100 [#85]he had koldamenta and russ too, who are worse than players, basically made his team net 0
still not a team of three rookies
leo never has to be the leader or that guy hes just another piece
gamergirl [#69]the top 3 seeds go to shanghai retard wytb LMFAO
you might actually be retarded
https://www.vlr.gg/341816/fnatic-vs-team-liquid-champions-tour-2024-emea-stage-1-knockout/?game=all&tab=overview
https://www.vlr.gg/341818/karmine-corp-vs-fnatic-champions-tour-2024-emea-stage-1-ubsf/?game=all&tab=overview
gamergirl [#40]"you only take games where fnatic weren't shitting on random teams and only where fnatic were challenged"
even in lock in finals, aspas won loud the tournament, and his team sold, leo didnt make that comeback happen derke and alfajer did
but all the praise will go to leo because he had the highest rating and got the most trade kills rofl
out of 4 games 2 of them were from masters shanghai where leo was sick. no warmup, mini was about to sub in
https://www.vlr.gg/341821/team-heretics-vs-fnatic-champions-tour-2024-emea-stage-1-gf
https://www.vlr.gg/341818/karmine-corp-vs-fnatic-champions-tour-2024-emea-stage-1-ubsf
https://www.vlr.gg/341816/fnatic-vs-team-liquid-champions-tour-2024-emea-stage-1-knockout
https://www.vlr.gg/220447/fnatic-vs-evil-geniuses-champions-tour-2023-masters-tokyo-ubf
single handedly took fnatic to shanghai, won them split vs eg to take them tokyo grand final, almost was mvp tokyo
https://www.vlr.gg/378836/leviat-n-vs-team-heretics-valorant-champions-2024-lbf
weren't many brazillians shitting on aspas after the heretics match ? did we forget this or smth
lorenzopajaroFC [#44]Holy shit so he had two good tornaments and in the rest where he was average you’re just gonna keep the running the “sick” narrative, your goat is dead and is never touching this game again
Get over it
least delulu brazillian:
starxito_sike [#89]out of 4 games 2 of them were from masters shanghai where leo was sick. no warmup, mini was about to sub in
https://www.vlr.gg/341821/team-heretics-vs-fnatic-champions-tour-2024-emea-stage-1-gf
https://www.vlr.gg/341818/karmine-corp-vs-fnatic-champions-tour-2024-emea-stage-1-ubsf
https://www.vlr.gg/341816/fnatic-vs-team-liquid-champions-tour-2024-emea-stage-1-knockout
https://www.vlr.gg/220447/fnatic-vs-evil-geniuses-champions-tour-2023-masters-tokyo-ubfsingle handedly took fnatic to shanghai, won them split vs eg to take them tokyo grand final, almost was mvp tokyo
https://www.vlr.gg/378836/leviat-n-vs-team-heretics-valorant-champions-2024-lbf
weren't many brazillians shitting on aspas after the heretics match ? did we forget this or smth
bro he didnt drag them to shanghai they only had to beat 1 team to qualify LMFAO
gamergirl [#92]bro he didnt drag them to shanghai they only had to beat 1 team to qualify LMFAO
no bro they had to beat liquid and kc to go to shanghai
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