GE 5 Indians | VLR.gg

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Radnam24

I always hated the "If you want to suck, then suck with 5 Indian players" argument, but I think I'm starting to change my opinion now.
If this is your level with these players, it can't be much worse with 5 Indians.

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are they atleast investing in t2, so that they can have a team with indians as long term goal?

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they have an academy team in India challengers

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which also is full of the worst of indian players
they aint winnin nowhere

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which they do nothin and 0% chance for them subbed in one of starting roster with their academy players

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Anguibok

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Nope, playing against player that dont have a lot investment in it will not help to grow the team. They will continue play against unexperimented team and take really few experience.

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their academy roster is all young indians...not doing quite well in VCSA either

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Radnam24

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i bet even they can lose 13-5, 13-1, 13-3 if they play in VCT like the main team

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PandaPrince

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yeah they might even beat DFM, Zeta, TS...guess we'll never know

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Long term goal? They will be out from franchise by the time they pick any Indian players.

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got farmed by velocity anyway so not really a good return, as an org GE is ass

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It can be much worse
These players are quite good the level in apac is just very high bro
Draft some t3 shitters and you might be seeing 13-0s

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bro when there were 2 indians in the team it was better

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they sucked ass back then too except the league was way weaker

i know from your pov the results look the same but everyone in the league is improving drastically

sending 5 indian players would be like throwing minnows into shark waters

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It was better because competition was worse only 2 teams dominated at that time even geng was bad when they had 2 indian players
Now rrq boom both can make it to masters
Yeah GE also should have gotten better ,and they have but not yet catching up to others. This team is promising than all rest of years without a doubt

People just keep talking about old ge with 2 indians because they dont realise - Game was easier. Teams were not as good only drx and prx were good and the Metas and more agents

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game might be easier and sure i agree with you
but skrossi as shit as he performed still had few great games
diffed meteor in their GENG game and i know this is all old talk but yea

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As i stated agent pool
Skrossi only played jett no other agents
And jett was the only meta and was not nerfed as much
And now you look neon,iso and a lot other agents like tejo and all in this meta lets be real
That is why i am saying lets not talk about how players were good back then

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ur own argument works against you, if GE kept the same roster they obviously would have adjusted to the meta

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Radnam24

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13-0 or 13-5 it is same to me ....A fucking STOMP

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it’s not the same and they honestly played way better than 5 rounds on haven, geng just clutched up

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Radnam24

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in the end everyone is going to remember the score doesnt matter how they played

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Sure but if you actually care about competition and improvement then you spend more than 2 seconds evaluating the score

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dont worry this thread gon reach the "but they failed trials" arguments or "let them win ascension"

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but they failed trials, let them win ascension

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so did dos9 apparently and look at boom now lmao

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GE also lost to ascension runner up. Maybe they are also not good enough for league.

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Radnam24

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I was one of those

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These guys didn't win Ascension also apart from kristal

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My argument is more "If you want to not suck in 5 year, pick 5 indian player now"

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You don't know if those 5 players will be good after 5 years

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wait really? oh shit man but but but but hear me out WHAT IF THEY DO GOOD?????

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That's not his point he is talking about giving them a platform to play which will inspire younger generation to come up and try nd take those spots from within the country rn the Indian audience feels complete disconnect with the roster and we are as good as no even represented in VCT despite Riot giving us a shot

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yeah i lowkey agree with you, atleast put 2-3 Indian players in GE roaster, even if they don't play good, we can accept that India is ass in valo. RN it's 5 non indians with non indian coaching staff representing how bad India is in valo

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coaching team is just so ass brother there was 0 plan concocted, give 4 indians 1 veteran igl import and actual good coach, though idrk who fits both positions

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Autumn would be perfect

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Which 5 players are you talking about? The one who failed to compete in their own region too?
That would be such a disrespect to vct and the other athletes. They are doing good scouting and can scout better players next time until vct cancels their tier 1 invitation.

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they should scout better coach

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Radnam24

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I hope they do a background check this time and not hire a pedo

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wait what

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juv3niles a creep and a pedo

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juvenile

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Radnam24

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bro you can pick 5 random Indian players and they will give you similar results 13-5, 13-1, 13-3

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I believe VLT can win easily against GE

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Radnam24

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yeah damara and madelyn will fuck them up

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vlt is winning ascension

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Tbf this roster is decent they just need a consistent duelist, not "star" duelist. Like famouz, jemkin, buzz, they are no star duelist but goddamn they are team players.

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always been saying this since last year like cmon just do it already

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Who would you really play from vcl sa. LF maybe but the rest of them are just meh

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Radnam24

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bro you can pick 5 random Indian players and even they will give you similar results 13-5, 13-1, 13-3

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Dekh Bhai jab t1 req chal raha tha toh mein Sogaya tha phir abhi 15-20 min pehle utha hu, match dekhne hi nahi mila , sirf vlr se overall scores , map scores and performance dekha, dukh aur dard hua par pehle ke jaisa nahi , mat dekh Bhai matches , better feel karega tu

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Radnam24

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next week yahi krna padega vaise bhi PRX se toh 7 janam khel ke bhi nhi jeet sakti GE

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bro you wanna speedrun getting demoted from franchising?
apac is on very high level competition rn, especially teams from SEA catching up with korea with their own talents, it's about time for the japanese to catch up someday too. all GE need to do is to scout the best talent in APAC first, focus on indian talent in t2

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You know that the concept of franchising is "I want to keep this team even if they are the worst team ever ?"

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if the team is the clown of the competition the fans bound to lose interest, meaning they will lose money. its not like GE is a cult fanbase org like KOI or KC

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Thats not what happenned in KC 2023, people where still hype

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thats literally what cult fanbase definition mean, the org who have community vibes, you think GE is the same? lol

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GE seems quite big to be fair

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you clearly don't understand what im talking about. what i mean by "cult fanbase" is orgs like KC, KOI, Faze Clan who are made by content creators, their fanbase are based on the owners/creators followers no matter how much games they have for esports even if the team suck they will still support, some of them dont even know who's on the team. not many orgs have this kind of clout, some orgs bound to lose fanbase if they losing

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They scouted fantastic talent this year - udotan, kristal but its not working

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yea but they scouted patrickWHO so its equalize

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Radnam24

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100+ players trails and they scouted a team that cant win 15 round combined how much worse will the indian guys do

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Indian talent will never catch up because they are living in a bubble where they only play against other Indian players.

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This is might be the truth. So sad.

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this is why scrims are necessary

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Sure scrims will help but not getting the experience of playing in big tournament will always hold you down.

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And thats the exact reason why GE need to take 5 Indians player, to break the circle, remember than in 2021 they where equal in term of level with the 3rd and 4th Korean team, and now where are we ? At the bottom of the bottom of the bottom. Gap will continue to increase if Indian player have no time in tier 1

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bro kr1stal, udotan and papi is a solid player and yet they're still shit

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yes but they also scouted patrickWHO and a pedo for a coach

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Radnam24

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GE has always had a history with fraud duelists : skrossi, polvi, patrickwho

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bro you wanna speedrun getting demoted from franchising?
it's about time for the japanese to catch up someday too

Double standards lmao
What makes you think the Indian players wouldn't improve with experience?

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the point of vct is about high competition in the entire region you don't simply play 5 localize players just to exist be punching bags

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Doogle

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it's ok let them get punched they will imrove eventually one day and would cost less than import as well, as we have seen Rushi crying for money..

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g1

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I feel like GE find really talented players but those talented players don't fit with each other well because of this GE keeps failing and when the players join another team they shine.

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Kinda unlucky I'd say

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GE probably not making it past 2026 with how they bottled this opportunity. Just needed to develop a proper team of local talent to spread the game in India which would've helped recruiting better talent in return. Now we have a foreign team who are losing every game. Atleast ZETA and DFM are trying to nurture local talent even if they are losing. Atleast lose knowing you are helping the scene grow. they are doing nothing but wasting money.

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Lol JP scene has been changed they bring Imports man what a dream you are living in I have seen threads complaining about imports in vcl Japan

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Im talking about the vct teams developing local players. Rather I think importing talent into tier 2 from better regions can also help local talent develop with higher competition and level of game trnding upwards as well. I love that the Japanese challengers seen has imports to help their players improve and the vct teams only recruit the locals which also help them imrove.

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The only one is Meiy even he kept struggling in stage 1 and Akame and jinboong was doing their best compared to others

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The only way to win or be competitive in VCT is to either develop cheap local talent or be rich and spend money to buy already established talent. the JP teams have taken the former approach which I agree with. GE has done neither. They lack the funding to do the latter so do the first. They dont do either and are stuck in limbo.

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If GE uses full Indian players can they win against DFM, close to DRX on split, close to BOOM on haven??