Pacific Being Best Region

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hehe444

With how bad is DFM, GE, TS, Zeta, PRX
how bad is mid teams NS, RRQ, Talon, GEN

cannot say pacific best region. may be other regions worse than this?

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if you thinking all 12 teams, EMEA is the best,
if you are thinking top 6 pacific is best.
if you are thinking top 1 Maybe americas or pacific.

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TS > KOI
DFM > Giant X

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145512

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Cope. The only teams i see dfm beating in vct excluding china are 2g and furia. I dont think they can beat even TS

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2g is making playoffs wtf is this 2g slander rn?

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I don't in what world you think koi giantx kc apecks are good team

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Here is my ranking of bottom half of the three regions. You can disagree with it.

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NS
BBL
GE
LEV
LOUD
NAVI
NRG
GX
PRX
APEKS
ZETA
EG
TS
KOI
DFM
2G
FUR

Note: they dont have to be good teams to be better than bottom teams.

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have you not seen americas since kickoff? 2g is way better than eg now (yeah they lost but without zap they look better)

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Congo1

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When did he say they were good? He said theyre better than apac and amer bottom which is true

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grisx23

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No? Aside from Furia maybe. 2G and Loud are solid

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havent u see CHINA?

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hehe444

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i'm talking about best region. china is behind

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Ferhatch

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you cannot say that to champion winning region man, china is behind is already irrelevant.

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honestly true if boom fight either c9 or mibr like how they played today idt theyd win at all, i love them but the americas shooters looking scary as hell aint gonna lie

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hehe444

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I know c9,mibr shooting power. but their strats and reads are kind a meh. I don't think both of them winning vs boom when boom have a read.

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RRQ is actually surprisingly looking really good. They could come out second in their group with their performances far

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Ferhatch

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the first match is rough tho especially split. if they fumble again later mid season like that you just cant trust them no matter how well the other map is.

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1One1

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They lose to Nongshim, head to head Nongshim win.

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FrostTree187

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not if Nongshim fumble against TS

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hehe444

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problem is they are cumble hard sometimes. and xferro and moneyet do lot of braindead plays

#11

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technicalities bla bla bla
Pacific won 2 of the last 3 international events (most recent masters too).
Go find more technicalities to suit your narrative.

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edg not pacific

#19

Warlordwibz

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Pacific won 2/3 (GenG Shanghai & T1 Bangkok)
CN won 1/3 (Champs Seoul)

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Dreoxx

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love to see that VLR is still illiterate

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geng beats every eu team

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Yistyy

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Pacific's "mid" teams are kinda good, no?

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R136a1

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how bad is mid teams NS, RRQ, Talon, GEN

put them in any other league, and they might just bonk everyone and get top 4

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hehe444

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if other region got better map veto they can win against these teams. these teams are bad at few maps currently.

NS and Talon much worse.
GEN and RRQ bit better btw

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logistics101

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lets say top 4 in americas , G2 , KRU , MIBR , C9 or SEN
Talon is not beating anyone on this list.
Nongshim is getting shit on by Talon so that excludes them automatically.
RRQ maybe you can make a case for them beating c9 or sen? doesn't seems plausible still mostly would be in 65:35 in favour of sen c9.
out of everyone I can see a solid case for GenG beating C9 , SEN or to some extent mibr , they would still lose to KRU and G2 tho no doubt about that.

So I think its far fetched to assume these 4 are beating the top 5 in americas apart from GenG

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1One1

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RRQ vs C9 would be funy, these two team are at best when the match is less important but infamous choker map 3

#38

R136a1

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RRQ beat TLN, NS beat RRQ, TLN beat NS.
BIG 2025 man, your logic of Team X beat Team Y, so Team X will do shit vs Team Z is washed.

Plus, that can be said for all other mid-tier teams vs the top 4. Pacific's mid-table teams have the best chance compared to other region's mid-table teams. also, its been more than 48 hours since I posted that, so just let it go already.

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pacific is best region as of right now

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The title being correct

#28

fiv5Mmmmm

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Pacific is a 2 team region, only DRX and T1 are good

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Dreoxx

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same thing can be said about AMER: G2 (solid lock) MIBR (who didn't even make it to bangkok but they look good enough to be included)

SEN (lost to KRU, who are somehow 3-0)
KRU (faced like 2 bad teams rn + a shaky SEN)
C9 (known playoff chokers, if they start remembering how to shoot in playoffs they will be added)

CN is just EDG (who have taken a significant dip in performance and lost to NOVA as if they are EDG's cryptonite)

EMEA is tricky. all of them just look like they're in an awkward place, even amongst the top of the standings. VIT (and FNC if they keep this up) are obviously what you would call a 2-team region, but that's not even a guarantee. TH is looking scrappy, barely pulling 2-1 victories over low-tier teams like GX and APK, and FUT seems consistent... just not good enough to be added to EMEA's best.

APAC has BME now, and they look very much ready for Toronto with the form they have. convincing 2-0 and 2-1 against GE and PRX, and even a clean 2-0 against GEN, arguably a top 3 APAC team. add that to the ranks of TLN NS and GEN, who all have crazy potential, and you're looking at a budding region.

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fiv5Mmmmm

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lots of text

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Dreoxx

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if you don't want to read that's up to you :)

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1One1

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It can't be helped that every region are 1-2 team region. But if we see the mid tier, america have plenty (outside LEV Furia EG 2G) and Pacific also decent (outside GE DFM TS PRX)