best orgs ever

not best individual teams but the whole history of the org, based on consistency and peak

1. FNC
2. LOUD
3. SEN
4. PRX
5. EDG
6. OPTIC/ENVY
7. DRX
8. EG
9. FPX/NAVI
10. GAMBIT
11. GENG
12. 100T
13. ACEND
14. KRU
15. LEV

HM: G2, TL, ZETA , HERETICS
thoughts?

give tl some credit

i dont like them at all but they were pretty big in 2021-2023

Cloudberries

I would move EG below DRX if we are factoring in consistency in equal measures to peak, EG has peaked higher than DRX in 2023 but otherwise DRX has far better domestic showings on average year over year and makes playoffs at champs consistently.

DRX above optic/envy xDDDDDD

eg too high

PRX too high for a org that dont win any internationals

Ngl EG way too high, they were good for like half the season in 2023 and then the org never reached playoffs afterwards (excluding kickoff)

I feel optic is being dissed here. Idk if this is rancid but they should even be above sentinels. They definitely should be above drx their 2-0 against them and had similar longevity. If we count NRG as somewhat a continuation they are 3-0 against DRX. Then EG and EDG. Both have one major victory. While it was champs and should be valued higher than Optics masters win, optic/nv had such better longevity and finishes for years before that. (2nd against gambit, 1st against loud, 3rd against fpx, 2nd against loud.) The fact is EG was only good for a year. Their champs win and 2nd place do not outweight optics achievements. EDG only just surfaced for champs. While they were dominant, before that they presented ZERO longevity. They qualified for years because of the weakness of the chinese region and achieved little results. PRX is arguable. (2nd at copen, 3rd at tokyo, 2nd at champs, and 3rd at madrid.) In my opinion these results do not trump what optic have done and the more I look at them, the more optic deserves that 4 spot. Optic is 0-1 against them (0-2 if nrg is considered), it does not outweigh anything. Sentinels is hard to argue because of their 2 wins, but looking past that they have been abysmal at internationals. Optic takes the longevity and results categories. Furthermore, optic is 2-0 against them. (3-2 considering nrg). Loud is where I draw the line.

EG 8th lul

navi has nothing till now

what about T1? i mean, theyre prolly the most famous org in esports......

mbmb forgot that this was onyl for valo

G2 deserves to be on the list, they treat they players well and are pretty clouted

I'm not sure if I understand the list requirements but Gambit when they were a thing throughout the entire time they were as a team, were godly. The one tournment they missed out on was unfortunate because they faced against fnatic instead of team liquid. Gambit almost won back to back tourneys and really should of but Acend somehow won. When they changed to m3c they just werent the same. I don't know if this was because of the big thing in russia, or if the players started to not be able to adapt to the meta and fell behind. Whatever the case I think m3c and Gambit shouldn't be included the same