Nova, DFM, M8 and others

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fiv5Mmmmm

What is your liking for teams considered dark horses? No bro, DFM won't win the Pacific kick-off, Nova won't win the China kick-off, M8 won't win the EMEA kick-off, stop being crazy
These are teams that only managed to do well in the off-season, official tournaments are different, EDG is world champion, why would they lose to NOVA? Do you think they will play with 5 controllers at kick-off? Think a little

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Karmine Corp won Kickoff 2024 after putting on a circus show for all of 2023, so it's impossible to say for certain that a team won't win

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That's because Fraudmea is a zero team region. The only region that didn't win a single trophy in 2024.

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They were different contexts, at the time it was something that no one expected, especially because they didn't play many off seasons, but today they expect a lot from teams that only won a few off seasons games but when they played VCT they were always bad, as is the case with NOVA (which practically didn't change its line) DFM (which changed few things in its line)
Maybe we can understand the hype in M8 a little, as the line has also changed a lot, but I believe there are at least 4 teams ahead of them just talking about line

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I think so too, but the point here is that we don't know how any team will perform until they do. For all we know, a bunch of teams are saving strats, or a bunch of teams are peaking in the offseason and will run into issues with the new season (map pool, balance changes, internal issues, etc.), or maybe a team with almost no footage will just dominate

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The teams look good? Fnc fell off last year after winning 2 trophies s0n won madrid after winning svl. Sure we cant rely on every result but you cant just discard every result because you want to. Also m0br is not winning shit.

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sorry, but who mentioned MIBR? Furthermore, what will be Faze's next game in the franchises?

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idk about you guys but ANGE1 gonna carry NAVI to win Kickoff

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fiv5Mmmmm

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An elderly person will not be able to carry a team alone

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wait for Koala Yoru, Ange1 Neon

Infinite firepower (90% Ange1, 10% Koala)

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fiv5Mmmmm

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You forgot to take your medicine

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How do you split infinity into percentages

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trust in nova they are the real competitors this season

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fiv5Mmmmm

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NOVA wouldn't even win the VCL NA, imagine the kick-off from China

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Nova was a pretty good team at last season, they changed the roaster and did well in stage 2 and now they are even better.
this doesn't mean they gonna win china and master, it means they are a solid team this season that can do well !
that's all

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fiv5Mmmmm

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I agree

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so why so you say

NOVA wouldn't even win the VCL NA, imagine the kick-off from China >
bro they can perform really good or bad, what are you fighting about ?

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fiv5Mmmmm

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Because you said that nova will be a competitive team, I agree with that, but no, it won't win the kick-off, nor any other title

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You can't say that with such a confidence

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Nova is top 3 CN, DFM top 5 pacific, M8 probably middle of the pack EMEA.

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fiv5Mmmmm

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Nova is behind EDG, FPX, Wolves, Xi Lai, BLG and Trace.
DFM is behind PRX, DRX, GENG, T1, Talon and RRQ (I doubt whether it is also behind TS and ZETA).

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I rate dfm higher than rrq and equal to talon. I rate nova rn only lower than wolves and edg, with them equal to xlg and trace depending on the day. Blg seems too inconsistent and idk about fpx and whatever they are doing so I don't have a ranking for them.

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you know ball

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i highly doubt about nove being under Trace , Wolves or Xi Lai

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BOOM is winning Pacific

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fiv5Mmmmm

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BOOM will win a 0-4 doing less than 20 rounds

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NOVA is actually really good. Their weird sunset comp is sick
Ezeir as a rookie is amazing and swerl is a good duelist player

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fiv5Mmmmm

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I don't think they are bad, but they are worse than a lot of teams

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Not to a lot of chinese teams but to a lot of teams from other regions sure

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fiv5Mmmmm

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Nova is behind EDG, FPX, Wolves, Xi Lai, BLG and Trace.

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NGL DFM can definitely win kickoff lol. They looked good, even better than GenG looked imo. I still think T1 or NS are gonna win, but DFM and PRX are right there too.

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fiv5Mmmmm

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DFM won't win bro, relax

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hard to tell because they only looked good without gyen

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they didn't perform well with gyen. with sees hey can definitely come top 3 at least

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Saying that with a Brazilian flag is mental :x

Hospital mocking charity here

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What did France manage to win in Valorant? The only title you have was with Karmine Corp, and they only had one French player, in 2023 you had 4 French players and were the worst team in EMEA. Now KC kicked the only frenchman left, and M8 kicked all the frenchmen in their line, both players and staff, only Kadavra survived, not to mention Vitality which has none, France is weak, it can't even compare to Japan, imagine Brazil

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I didn't say "Stop thinking those team can win"

You say "Stop saying DFM have a chance" while having Brazil flag is ironic. I never blame smaller country, and I'm consistent with that, promoting every middle country have representation in T1 (Even Oceania and Vietnam)

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fiv5Mmmmm

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Why would it be ironic? My country is champion not only of the continent, but also of the world, something that France will never achieve
And no, DFM doesn't stand a chance

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It's ironic because DFM have more chance to win Kickoff than all Brasil united. Don't live in the past my bro

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fiv5Mmmmm

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Who at DFM is paying you to praise them so much? They wouldn't even beat Galorys, they won't win the kick-off, they won't win anything

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this is such a terrible take when an org makes an entirely new roster past results dont dictate how good the roster is just because people rate promising rosters of orgs who havent had much success doesnt make them crazy. literally every year this game has been out soemone entirely unexpected has won the world championship. maybe not all of them will be good thats fair but it would not surprise me one bit if they overpreform and end up being one of the best teams in the year. just look at heretics its bound to happen again.