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Why sova has a high pick rate

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#1
Uncleben

It’s not that sova is too op, but it is a combination of the meta and the maps. At least 4 of the maps (icebox, ascent, haven, breeze) will probably always be sova maps because his drone is so useful for clearing certain positions and his dart’s range is very useful.

The problem is that we are in a 2 initiator meta now. Previously we were in a double controller meta so skye or gekko were the preferred initiator as they act as both flash and recon initiator passably. With Skye nerf and double controller being less op, it’s more viable to simply have a flash and a recon initiator, and sova is just an objectively better fade in most ways.

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Uncleben
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Buff or rework aspects of fade, or simply buff double controller (harbor buff). Nerfing sova off of just the pickrate without understanding the underlying problem is just a shortsighted solution.

#3
cloudberry
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I agree, buff Harbor :3

#4
Soddalele
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i will literally break my fucking desk if we go back to the loud harbor viper meta

#5
Uncleben
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It doesn’t really affect you in ranked though, and I found the meta entertaining in pro play to watch

#8
Soddalele
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that was what i hated watching, its where the postplant spam meta started or at the very least got really really fucking annoying

#14
stellaresca
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WBHAT ARE U WATCHING? spamming half your mag thru smoke? hell nah, we do not need an overwatch 4 (ow3 already out, called marvel rivals)

#15
arin2016
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Well it's good then Riot isn't listening to minorities like you because spam simulator meta was absolute dogshit and nobody liked it

#28
darklord69
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I liked it and I'm worth a thousand of you

#32
arin2016
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You are a nobody.

#20
Two_Percent
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goated meta idc

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Two_Percent
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fade is fine tho?? shes basically sova but better on bind, lotus, split, plus shes rivals sova on fracture/pearl

#12
Alpha679
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teams will lean into sova more on fracture imo and they already are on pearl

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Two_Percent
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yeah but the only maps where sova is a must pick are going to be abyss and haven

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Alpha679
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true but then if sova is played a fair amount on fracture and is already played a lot on pearl thats 4 maps hes good on people will then think he is OP because he played a lot and call for a nerf when in truth its just because most ini's arent that good

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Two_Percent
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the only team that really played sova on fracture was eg. not saying that he wont be played on fracture, bc eg showed that he was good on fracture, but most teams will prob just lean towards either fade breach or solo initi breach

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Alpha679
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since then though cypher has been buffed and even though he has had a recent nerf he will still be a good pick across many maps including fracture (though i think deadlock and maybe even vyse could get some play) and breach + fade alone arent able to properly scout out trips especially if the cypher is placing different ones across a game and will cause raze to waste more util like a nade and satchels and still worry about trips
Sova just allows an easy clear of all senti util

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Two_Percent
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thats not a sufficient enough reason to play sova over fade, her general playstyle suits more teams on fracture

#7
cohnr
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any kind of sova nerf makes him miserable to play, you cant nerf his drone because then it loses almost all its value, you cant nerf the dart because making it 1 scan destroys it, you cant nerf the shocks because theres nothing you can nerf without making them borderline useless, making his ult 9 charges is just too much for valorant as a whole

I think its a problem with the overall game being toned down with abilities over the last couple years, then you need initiators to get info so you can use the limited util that you have more effectively

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composthe
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you can make the drone 80 hp so that 2 shoot with vandal breaks it instead of 3

#29
darklord69
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completely meaningless nerf, won't impact his pick rate whatsoever

#30
tempacc123
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80% of games under immo3 dont break drones

#9
Bhrubby
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I just recon when enemy is going in and my teammates gets the info and kills with me. I don’t even have to buy a mic.

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bees
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The initiator and controller metas, with a decent harbor buff, are pretty solid.

It feels like the first time maybe ever that a lot of maps can be run either as double initiator or double controller depending on what a team values more. There's no one initiator or one controller who is so good that the other class is always doubled up

#11
Alpha679
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i read the first sentence and i already agree
however dont expect riot to understand this though they just nerf based on numbers and play rate

#17
nobody___100
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what's with this, is there a sova nerf?

#18
Alpha679
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no he just has a high pick rate right now

#21
nobody___100
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he's fine bruh

#22
Anguibok
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Main problem of Sova is that he is the only "long range reveal" Skye and Fade were in competition for close range maps (Raze maps), Fade and Skye could have seens some pick on long range map even if Sova stay number 1, but now they get kinda nerfed it's dead Sova and sometime Gekko will be the only agent see on longrange map, while having some decent pick on shortrange maps.

I really hope next initiator is good on long range maps

#23
stellaresca
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  • recon dart crossmap lineups, compared to fade's heavy ass octopus ball recon thingy, also sova's thing tags twice
  • drone that gives the player full vision compared to fade prowlers that uses AI vision
  • post plant / area denial /stall utility that kills with no aim just lineups (ULT, Shock dart) compared to fade's deafen/decay (doesnt actually kill from long range, needs actual aim)
#26
composthe
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Drone is really good for intel, only skye dog can compare with it but skye is ass

Fade could use some buffs to her dog like 80 to 100 hp, not only dog has less hp than sova drone but its also easier to break

#31
Boketto
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Trust me this double initiator meta is not that bad although I would say to help incentivize the use of less double initiator is to give more info gathering opportunities to other initiators but honestly it might tip the balance of the almost perfect initiator meta. As for Sova vs Fade that's actually completely fine they do 2 different things and fit into different play styles it's just the meta play style meta caters more to Sova right now but its fine

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