the FNS test of 2025

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nobody___100

FNS' international losses since yay joined Envy are as follows: GMB, ACE, X10, XIA, LOUD, GLD, PRX, FPX, FNC, BLG, RL
other than GLD, all of these teams are either w key cracked aimers from SEA/CN (X10/XIA, PRX, BLG, RL) or eventual trophy winners (GMB, ACE, LOUD, FPX, FNC)
notably, FNS has historically owned KR/JP teams (DRX 2022, DRX 2023, T1 2023, current GENG, 2022 ZETA, 2023 ZETA)
so going into 2025, we can say that if a non-CN/SEA team beats NRG, there is around a 83% chance that they will win an international
we can also say that if a KR/JP team has to beat FNS to reach/win an international grand final, they might be cooked
gotta see if the FNS test holds up for 2025

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kfan4238173

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Zeek owns him

#3

danii1

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Needs to own tier 2 first so u can even have that discussion

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kfan4238173

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He owned tier 1

Vct champion mvp. First of history

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danii1

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2021 sadly

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kfan4238173

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Well he wanted to be first so that’s why he won that one 🗿

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danii1

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There's no arguing with you..

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kfan4238173

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Sry I just always win

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nobody___100

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z00k

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kfan4238173

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Zeek champion mvps: 1
America flag champion mvps: 0

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Two_Percent

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only thing zeek owns is a fraudulent title from 2021 when pheonix, brim and sage were haven meta

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BEHEMOTH

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Fraudulent title says this retard lmao

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kfan4238173

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Phoenix*

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Almighty

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yay was holding FNS back

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catNmouse

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fns with yay made three international finals and won one of them

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Almighty

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Fns is going to win all three next year without y0y

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reaper_rega08

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Why other than Guild? GLD had Sayf, leo and Trexx they were good too. The team just got overwhelmed by biggies like ACE, FNC, TL and GMB.

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catNmouse

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russ and koldamenta were on guild

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Aayan

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21/22 koldamenta wasnt bad for his time
23 was very bad but people say his 21/22 was bad only because of his 23 imo (sorta a recenecy bias effect)

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nobody___100

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guild arent from SEA/CN and didn't win anything like the other teams which is why i excluded them

#7

blahblahblah

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Good post

#11

highlyte

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After reading this I realized that it would not be the best situation if Asian teams had to play NRG

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catNmouse

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unless that team is a team that plays a lot like PRX. so for instance i think nrg would struggle against 2023 edg due to their play style at the time

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nobody___100

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not all asian teams - korean teams are most likely to get their asses handed to them

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Twentytwo

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So NRG vs EDG masters Bangkok GF, edg wins?

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nobody___100

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hard to tell FNS only played one chinese team so far

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catNmouse

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edg playstyle from champs is more structured so he would have a better chance but yeah it’s hard to tell

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BEHEMOTH

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He ain't winning anything pal, I don't know what sparked this crazy hype around him but he is simply not good enough. NRG will be mid simple as that.

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nobody___100

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must be difficult being illiterate AND retarded

#29

Shadow_Monarch

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FNS has Ethan now so its completely different. Ethan adds so much value to their teamplays and midrounding. Verno included.

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NioMS

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But can he finally beat elite EMEA teams?