Possible reason why eu val fell off?

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Nef0r0

Maybe because the best tier 1 prospects choose cs instead of valorant? you are free to argue if eu val has fallen off, but because cs remains more popular, val simply doesn't have such a huge source of talent there, like apac or china or americas?

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still the best region of all time
5 : 5 : 2 : 1 in trophies
wins the H2H in SERIES and MAPS against every single region

idc what any dumass without solid stats says

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Nef0r0

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When was the last time EMEA won an event?

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sentinelmain377

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when was the last time AMERICAS won an event

and also, in the past 3 finals, EU has been there 2 times while AMERICAS once. SO LOOK AT AMERICAS, not EMEA

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Nef0r0

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america has a different problem, the talent is separated among different teams

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lakpx

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what is that argument 😭

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4so4so4so

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when was the last time an international was in EMEA or Americas... apac and china are donefor at these next 2 events...

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rud

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delusional
not all trophies are equal.
Americas: 2 champs, 3 masters
EMEA: 1 champs, 3 masters, 1 Mickey Mouse cup

half of emea trophies come from prehistoric times too

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Cacachocolat

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2023 trophies are prehistoric?

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washedradiant

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He said half bro you dumb. Not even agreeing your just illiterate.

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Cacachocolat

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Trophies don't have expiry date.

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Hyxagon

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he said fell off for a reason. one team region since 2022

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Cacachocolat

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Heh we still got to two finals last year, let's see what happens in Toronto and Paris

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MrBlooBloom

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Because france fell off in both Cs and Val (I was never a big thing in val anyway but you get what I mean) resulting in a big loss of potential great players

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gofert

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France fell off? Vitality just won Kato and the Woo is goated

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Nef0r0

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only 2 french players, have switched to international in 2022

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gofert

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Fair, I don't know much about CS I just like vitality lol

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Nef0r0

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I mean finally there is a french team which is like tier 1.5, 3dmax (maybe possibly going to gentle mates), but I feel like they are a few big guns away from becoming tier 1

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neuroniumtwistanium

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3dmax is promising. (there's at least talent there)

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emea t2 prefers cs over val now

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Nef0r0

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I mean eu cs hasn't lost a single S-tier pro to valorant, meanwhile NA CS got massacred

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yes for sure

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The_Preacher

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I disagree, will come back to this post ,if I remember you after they win a tournament this year

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Nef0r0

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I mean the trend shows that EMEA is not good enough to win internationally anymore. Playoffs are good, but winning events is what matters

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The_Preacher

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Trend is the worst tool to measure any stat in Valorant (other than comps)

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Nef0r0

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disagree, if for 1.5 years you haven't won a single international, then I would say you got worse compared to other regions

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The_Preacher

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See I agree they didn't won a tournament

But it's not like they were getting smacked like CN other than EDG

Th came #2 in back to back GF

LA was bit unlucky for FNATIC as they have to face their kryptonite twice ( They didn't deserve to win but a slightly better seed and FNATIC would have clean sweeped 2023)

Madrid and Bangkok is quite similar when they have young teams and they crumbled under pressure

They are still top contenders and not like CN #2-3 seed where fell off is quite visible)

Moreover AMERICAS #2 SEED SEN LOST TO TL #2 SEED of EMEA
So the competition is super close

I think stats sometimes don't give the whole overview

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PLRoox

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i am completely agreeing with this one

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Anguibok

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Every region is close in term of level, if you want to raise an alarm, raise the alarm in SEA that is getting worst every split and see the premier number diminish

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Yistyy

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I don't think any region is screwed as of yet, both americas and emea have been historically great. and we are in the middle of the apac and china era right now.