is the 12-6 bind ATK side choke from SEN worse than NRG 12-5 choke on sunset?
i think so
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is 12-6 choke on bind ATK side worse than NRG ?
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WHAT ABOUT THE B STIE :))))) how easy is it to defend and retake :))) (IF I RECALL ITS THE HARDEST TO RETAKE)
also A site being the easiest site to retake doesn't mean that it has a very high retake success rate like , b is held in post plant a much larger percent of time than A is successfully retaken.
what about the teleporters which allow for attackers to fake and rotate incredibly quickly, what about the attacker viper walls denying information and creating lurk timings, combined with the tp forcing you to have 2 people playing at A (or A + ct rotator) :)))
if you look at SEN's bind notably they do better on attack
'also A site being the easiest site to retake doesn't mean that it has a very high retake success rate' um thats exactly what it means also I do agree with b site being on the harder side but its still not the hardest site to retake - u might need to check the stats again.
'what about the teleporters which allow for attackers to fake and rotate incredibly quickly,' u never see strats orientated around this, its more of a last ditch attempt when everything goes wrong, it works for rank but not pro play as showers and long are almost always in contest by both sides.
'SEN's bind notably they do better on attack' it would be disappointing if it wasn't with the comp they're playing - double initiator no senti. Attacker sided and defender sided are inherent characteristics of a map, of course you can change up comps to alter this in your favour.
your just wrong but its ok
1.What I meant in the first point is that ok A site has some retake rate around 54% ( I watched a video on it some time ago data might not be accurate idgaf ) but the b site has a retake success rate of somewhere less than 40% meaning A sites easy retakability does not make the map as a whole positive for retakes
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False, I am talking about the existence of TPs making defenders less mobile. The strats dont work because defenders are donsistently commiting resources to contesting them, i.e. defenders have less resources for other shit
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As kanye provided overall its fucking t sided but I am too lazy to scrape data when I know I am talking with somebody who doesnt respect my opinion and will just stick with his
I will not reply further the data proves my point
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you just proved your point - tp's are no a viable strat so your incorrect
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that data is skewed, as are all of those 'side' data. Take a look at some of the maps and you'll see that in some tournaments even split stats are heavily favoured for t side. You'd be out of your mind to refute that, It all depends on the meta at the time.
also I'm not direspecting your opinion, being ct sided is OBJECTIVE not SUBJECTIVE. I'm just proving your claims are wrong
dw about replying its all g
not really, SEN won 7 rounds in a row on defense as well, with MITH on attack where they couldnt get 1 round in after
if the sides were opposite, SEN wouldve gotten the same thing
because according to my calculations, if the sides swiotched, MITH would be up 7-5
combining their 5 wins in a row, would make it 12-5
SEN won 7 rounds in a row that time, wouldve been the same thjing so not sure how this makes a difference, both sides sold.
Another way to look at it is: An extremely recent masters winning core with the best replacements possible, even a top tier team at the recent champs lost to a good APAC t2 team. While an NRG team tho they used to be good but they have obviously fallen from graces and that trophy was in the past ,with two months of practice with two players as replacements who actually didnt compete for atleast 8-10 months before that , lost to a C9 team tho the C9 team looked bad enough in stage 2 , they were definitely frying in stage 1. Also the fact is it's really cope to say that NRG would have made it to champs like literally Lev, G2, sen, 100t , kru like teams stood in their way
Fair but idk whether throwing during offseason counts as much. Perhaps if we mentioned the eg vs sen match where sen threw a similar lead and failed to qualify for the Shanghai masters could've been a better argument to clown on sen. Even Kaplan mentioned he purposefully didn't take a timeout when MITH were stringing rounds together in their comeback as he wanted the team to figure it out themselves, which they failed to and def deserve being clowned for that.
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