mindfreak > mako

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rhixcal

you cannot debate this

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MrBlooBloom

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been saying it for months

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Hynix

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you've been delusional for months
dephh>primmie ahh take

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MrBlooBloom

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the cope is real

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orchestra

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bro stop, Mako cocksucker wont like this thread!

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yellow_donkey

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nothing wrong with glazing the undisputed controller GOAT in valorant.

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tempacc123

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Karon 2 titles in 1 year
MaKo ?

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bearmans

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masters was what matter the most, but yeah idk where this MaKo or MF goat from, because clearly Karon performed much better this year compared to them in their 3-4 years of professional career.

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yellow_donkey

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karon this year compared to mf in past 3 years? sure
mako in 2022 pulled insane stat while having massive impact for team that finished 5-6th in both masters, while recording 1.14 ratings with 78% KAST over 400+ rounds? I am going to give it to mako for now. Unless Karon maintains his form in 2025, its still mako for me.

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yellow_donkey

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so by your logic,
starxo, zombs, redgar > mako???

I have stated in other replies that if Karon maintains his form in 2025, he should be in contention but i always like to wait and see for 2 years at least.

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teilwal

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you legitimately cannot say mindfreak > mako unless you are a cocksucker

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Zaphkiel

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Acting like two goats can't coexist

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Hynix

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marved, pancada, and karon are all well clear of midfraud

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cook

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pitchfork

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wait for regular season and we'll talk

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armadmeister1

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mako was only good in 2022-early 2023. In 2024 drx just changed alot of players so theres a reason why his performance dropped
mindfreak has been the better controller since tokyo 2023 to mid 2024 but prx was garbage in champs.

Mindfreak is SLIGHTLY better but not by a huge mile

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pitchfork

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let's not lying, mindfreak never above mako in terms of rating starting champs 2023 till pacific split 2

even in last champs mf had better stats cz they went out early

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armadmeister1

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typical vlr snobs. It's so obvious mako has been declining and mf has been improving

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1ucid

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The subject will only cause controversy,there is no doubt that mako has been declining,while mf has been improving to become more stable and calm

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MrBlooBloom

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I don't know if mako has actually been declining, I think it's mostly because comparable/better talents have emerged that he has been less remarkable

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koromast

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but then mf becoming better wouldnt make sense, the real reason mako aint that good is obviously because he has to call the rounds on pretty much his own since he has 4 kids on his team

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MrBlooBloom

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he ain't calling anymore tho (at least he isn't their main igl)

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koromast

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who is then? athan?

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munestar

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free1ng iirc

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koromast

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he doing a good job imo

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merciless-pity8989-89

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hopefully he stays as the igl, DRX look way too good for basically a brand new roster, with 2 players that haven’t even played in tier 2 before

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justachillguy

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mindfreak might be THE perfect player in prx who can balance between aggression and when to fall back while being cracked at the game and having a decent agent pool

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dual000

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Mako and Mindfreak gameplay are different
Mako is looking for chance to get kill as a controller, one of the best lurker
While Mindfreak clean his teammates' shit when they fail to deliver, his lurk is kinda mid but as last man, he is really good

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MrBlooBloom

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if you think his lurk is kinda mid you clearly didn't wtach his last match

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gordonramsay

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Dont make us bring up mindfreaks stats. Delusional kids. Check back in 2025 when the real season starts. Cant wait till botfreak goes 0.90 rating every lan event.

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Mindfreak is great but he has poor consistency just saying
Mako on the other hand he is good but yes I like mindfreak more

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who the fuck is slandering GOAT controller? MF/PRX fans talking as if mf has been consistent throughout the years when MaGOAT has been top top player since 2021 Masters Berlin, carried 2023 and 2024 DRX (While igling in champs 2024). I'll give him that Mindfreak is a good player, but saying he is above mako is pure delusion.
2023 S0m > Mindfreak

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MerkFreeks

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MF is a top 10 all time, but he is absolutely not the GOAT of the role, sorry.

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lead_water_enjoyer

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i swear these fans are acting like being top 10 or even top 6 in certain role is a bad thing. With the amount of inconsistency he has had, I'm sure everyone agrees that he is still a great player to be in the top 10 at least.

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I agree, Like he's really good at his role, a bit inconsistent at times, sure Reykjavik/Copenhagen form was elite for him but I cannot in good faith say he's anything higher than a top 5 spot.

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ctabust

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CAN SOMEBODY MATCH HIS FREAK

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cohnr

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you even got the bandwagon NRG fans, decent bait

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Recency bias hitting hard than it usually does these days

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dort

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both are fucking terrible