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Real China ranking for 2025

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#1
number1_cn_fan
  1. EDG
    ---------- Medium gap ----------
  2. WOL (Could switch with TE)
  3. TE (Could switch with WOL)
  4. BLG (Could still troll and have a low placement)
    ---------- Medium- High gap ----------
  5. FPX (Space for improvement but for now 5th place)
  6. XLG (They are kinda like the G2 in VCT CN)
  7. NOVA (Whoever said cb and swerl doesn't belong in Tier one is a bum)
  8. JDG (I believe in Sword9 and Stew)
  9. DRG (I'm glad that they got rid of shion7 but cangshu and spritz needs more practice and confidence)
    ---------- High gap ----------
  10. TEC (Haodong is a disappointment so far)
  11. AG (No one on the squad is really impressive)
  12. TYLOO (I dont think they locked in their roster yet but its safe to bet that they would be dead last in 2025)

Best Sentinel: CHICHOO
Best Controller: Smoggy/ Luok1ng (If he keeps up with his Champs performance)
Best duelist: KangKang/ Life (Needs resources and assist from his team)/ Whzy (Only if BLG gets a high placement)
Best initiator: s1mon/ Nobody
Best IGL: Nobody (Any1 else is unmatchable)
Best coach: Muggle/ Bail

Bangkok: EDG/TE or WOL
Toronto: EDG/FPX/WOL
Paris: EDG/WOL/TE/BLG (Points)

Record against Americas: 50 percent winrate
Against Emea: 30 percent winrate
Against Pacific: 70 percent winrate

#2
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Here's what I've got:

  1. EDG
  2. WOL
  3. XLG
  4. TE
  5. BLG
  6. FPX
  7. DRG
  8. NOVA
  9. JDG
  10. TYL
  11. TEC
  12. AG
#3
number1_cn_fan
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Fair enough

#4
H3ENnZ
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LOL You are a bot! You are not a real China fan
Stop fake flagging you faker

#12
catNmouse
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what’s wrong with the list

#13
H3ENnZ
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I felt like bullying my little brother today

#25
JawXG
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Isn't faker korean?

#5
shrike-
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what’s the deal with wolves

are they cooking this off season? they were mid as hell last season so what changed

#6
cloudberry
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They got Fayde (goat APAC coach) and Lysoar, and they're also likely getting grumble in a bit (at least I think it's grumble. All I remember is it was a DSG player) Juicy

They've also played in two offseason tournaments (WALL-E and FGC) and got 1st and 2nd respectively

#7
number1_cn_fan
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Lysoar looks insane + Spring is cooking on neon (Even tho Neon is getting nerfed but he is a decent player) + Juicy is a very experienced player

#8
drain_angel
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real list

  1. EDG
  2. WOL
  3. BLG
  4. Trace
  5. FPX
  6. NOVA
  7. JDG (would go up if they swapped jkuro out)
  8. Tyloo
  9. TEC
  10. DRG
  11. XLG
  12. AG
#9
cloudberry
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XLG in 11th, list invalid

#11
number1_cn_fan
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Why the hell is Tyloo above TEC DRG and XLG

#10
drain_angel
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also, LuoK1ng had a good champs but i wouldnt put him top 3 controllers in CN honestly

#15
number1_cn_fan
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Luok1ng was playing like a bum in China but played like a god in Champs but i still have faith in him

#14
saynotoherpes
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honestly useful thank you number1_cn_fan

#16
number1_cn_fan
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Your welcome saynotoherpes cool AK flair

#17
peetherium
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AG above tyloo is interesting

#18
number1_cn_fan
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Only one in TYLOO that I think is at tier one is ninebody
But AG has actual experienced player

#27
cloudberry
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I think Eren's really good. I'm a fan of hfmi0dzjc9z7 as well, his util's great

#28
peetherium
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personally I don't really think it'll matter unless Septem and X3B prove competent at leading the team. Q9 wasn't abysmal or anything but they were still unorganized af and i don't like what that implies. I think by end of the season Tyloo will level up, or at least more than AG

#19
merciless-pity8989-89
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TYLOO last?
Mans just guessing

#20
charleser
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  1. EDG
  2. WOL (replacing V1ya with a better player means they're 100% going to be a top 3 team for CN)
  3. TE (I see this team only improving)
  4. BLG (they look rejuvenated)
  5. FPX (have the talent to be the best in the region, but they've looked off since Shanghai)
  6. XLG (lacking firepower, but I could see them having solid results)
  7. NOVA (they can shoot, but lack a great coach or igl to really tie things together)
  8. JDG (hard to judge right now, could be higher)
  9. DRG (I don't see them having great results)
  10. AG (this roster is a downgrade)
  11. TEC (firepower isn't there, whole team needs to be rebuilt around rb and haodong)
  12. TYLOO (the leftovers, had no idea how to utilize their players and repeatedly switched them out, hope its different next year but off season hasn't changed my mind)
#29
peetherium
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Am i crazy if I say that NOVA's coach isn't bad? Their comps are weird af but it honestly just seems like they're going the Talon route and trying to play their own game. They look like a slightly sloppier PRX with better mechanics (and therefore a higher ceiling) to me tbh

#21
DrudaL
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International wise

  1. Edg
    GAP
    GAP
    GAP
    GAP
    GAP
  2. Any team with biank
    GAP
    the rest
#23
catNmouse
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accurate asf lmao

#22
Paraplant
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this is some anti-tyloo propaganda
you know that they played with a coach in offseason right?
and they still managed to win a game
what i’m saying is at least put us to 11😭

#24
zmjjkkkkkkk
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Life is a yoru and jett one trick, cannot play raze for the life of him let alone neon. he’s good but his agent pool is so bad

#26
catNmouse
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his yoru ain’t even that special too, fpx coach keep forcing it for some reason

#30
Evan_Munshi
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  1. Edg (Of course)
  2. Te (Individuals and team synergy too good)
  3. Wolves (Fayde cooking with some beasts)
  4. Blg (Trust in Bail)
  5. Fpx (Underestimation, could go 2nd)
  6. Nova (Synergy surprisingly good)
  7. Xlg (Happywei and Rarga carry)
  8. Jdg (Stew now has worse teammates)
  9. Tyloo (Trust in SLK and my surprise package)
  10. Tec (Come on. A team with Abo, Haodong, Rb coached by After should place higher. Right???)
  11. Drg (Purplest patch ended in masters, now back to their tier 2 form)
  12. Ag (I don't understand this roster)
#31
Niyah
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EDG

WOL
TE
BLG
NOVA
FPX
XLG
JDG
DRG
TEC
AG
TYLUL

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