REAL 2025 Tierlist

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bfrparker

I saw a guy doing it here and I thought that a lot of things in his tierlist didn't make much sense, besides he said an IDK for several teams, and as a good nerd, I know and watch most of the teams, so I'll put together my tierlist, open to opinions

VCT Americas 2025

Sentinels (the best line in the Americas, I have no doubt that it will be a very strong team)
100T
G2
LEV/NRG (They are two very strong lines, I have big doubts between the two)
LEV/NRG
LOUD (Even though it's not a good position, don't doubt LOUD)
EG (yay, lol)
KRU
FURIA (line are very good when they are playing well, the problem is that they are rarely playing well hahahhahaha, and peu is a great coach)
2G (I wouldn't be surprised if they were higher up)
C9
MIBR (We don't know much about the line for 2025, but if Aspas and nzr are really signed, they will definitely go up a lot, guhrvn and qck are also rumors, but for now the team is still weak)

VCT EMEA 2025

TH (very strong and integrated line, will do better than the super Vitality)
FNC (Kaajak is very good, it could even be better than Derke)
Vitality(good line, but the history of super teams is not very good in Valorant, NRG 2023 and 2024 know this well)
KC
NAVI (I still have doubts about this line, I don't think keeping ANGE1 was the best choice)
FUT (xeus >>>>> cned)
Giantx
TL (Patitek and Nats will become Noah and carry a bunch of animals)
Apeks
Gentle Mates
BBL (omg what a horrible line they put together)
KOI (OMG WHAT A HORRIBLE LINE THEY SET UP)

VCT Pacific 2025

Gen.G (It will still be the best Korean team in the world)
Paper Rex (I think it's crazy to say that PRX is washed, they still have a lot of rapport, their problem is not knowing when to stop rushing)
T1 (good line, but bad staff)
RRQ
Talon (Primmie alone will take Talon to fifth place)
DRX (They lost great players and didn't bring in worthy replacements)
Team Secret (power of JessieVash at 34 years old)
Sin Prisa Gaming (They played Ascension very well, they might surprise)
ZETA Division (They did very well at the Red Bull Home Ground, I think they can climb the table, but for now I still think they are a weak team)
Global Esports (they tried out with several big names, and in the end they put together a team with 4 unknown players and Kr1stal)
BOOM Esports
Detonation FocusMe

VCT China 2025

EDG
FPX
DRG
Trace Esports
Wolves Esports
Xi Lai Gaming (I watched their last 2 games at Ascension, the players are very good, especially Rarga)
Bilibili Gaming (Without Yosemite they will be nothing)
TEC (Rb, Haodong and AfteR are very good, However, the rest of the team does not have the same level)
JD Gaming (Stew is another Noah, carrying a bunch of animals)
All Gamers
Nova Esports
Tyloo (I don't think they're that bad, I just think the other teams are better)

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when you said bbl have a horrible line up that's all i needed to know blud is delulu

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PROFEK and Chiwa man

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chiwa is kinda mid (good but hes aging and doesnt have the experience youd expect at his age) but profek is insanely good signing

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chiwa is good lmao

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Good but there’s better and younger out there. Like anguist, even tho he’s very expensive

Chiwas good but there’s other moves that woulda been better if they could have been afforded

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age doesnt matter in valo bro, only experience and chiwawa is still starting in t1 so he wont get burned out or lose motivation we can see that in CS where many t1 level players explode at 24yo or so, trust me chiwawa is very very good, when it comes to intelligence, vibes and all that stuff he is great, I think he will surprise u, also has been playing sentinel since the dawn of time so he is a true specialist in that role which is something BBL could need with this roster

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is this profek slander? you need to end your life for shittalking emea goat!

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apeks at 9 let alone anything other than 12 is crazy

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they are no worse than BBL and KOI bro

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apeks are so terrible bro. they have the worst emea player in tier 1 with hype, avova hasnt been good since 2022, they dont even have experience together. they lost 2 players and are in trialing phase now

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bfrparker

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We have to wait for the line to be really confirmed, but unfortunately I can't see anything positive in BBL or KOI

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you are delulu asf icl

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bfrparker

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wtf is delulu

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it's you

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bfrparker

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you all are very funny, I'm laughing so much

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no fucking way u put players like Flyuh, Profek, Filu and Grubhino below Avova and Hype like bro have u seen a single game of them???

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I watched the entire Ascension EMEA, I think they can perform well, it just depends on the line they put together

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profek, filu and grubinho r goats

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bfrparker

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goats do prata 2

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Grubingo peaked #4 radiant and 1.47 k/d

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bfrparker

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bro, it was just a joke, relax

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LEV
G2
NRG
100T
EG
KRU
SEN
C9

rest are irrelevant

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bfrparker

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weak bait

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meanie

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you’re overrating LOUD heavily and I’m predicting a massive SEN flop

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bfrparker

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The Loud team will have a lot of time to train, they don't usually play many off seasons, and I don't think sixth place is a very good thing.
SEN has a very strong line, I find it very difficult for them to flop.

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has to be a bait, no way u putting DFM at last, they're showing a big potential, as far as i love boom to do something, but boom has to be the last, dfm should be higher than TS/GE but idk about GE that much

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bfrparker

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I confess that I don't know much about the DFM players, I put Boom in front because I know them better, i based a lot on their previous performance, which was weak, and they kept the staff, so I don't think much will change

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DRX brought in better players , tf are u on. Next time don’t make tier lists for regions you don’t watch

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i agree, it seems like they don't watch other regions but hyumin is NOT an upgrade over buzz, even though buzz doesn't perform in big matches

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bfrparker

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do you really think that HYUNMIN, freeing and Leviathan are better than Buzz, Foxy9 and Beyn? LOL

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freeing is, hyumin and leviathan are not

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merciless-pity8989-89

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Leviathan was DRX’s best academy player, BeYN only got called up bc Leviathan wasn’t old enough yet

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idk about leviathan but he hasn't played yet so I'm gonna take your word

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iOnyx

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No way we are near 2025 and people still putting SEN #1

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bfrparker

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If not SEN, who would be first? The only one I see taking the top of the SEN is the 100T

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its clearly G2 and LEV top 2 lol

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LEV, LOL

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sideshowsbaldhead

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Patitek and Nats will become Noah and carry a bunch of animals

this is actually tough lowkey

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NotDelicious

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G2 behind S0N

XDD

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bfrparker

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Both SEN and 100T are better than G2

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askrial

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sen i could possibly maybe see (depends, 50/50)
100t is a hard no. no way in hell.

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bfrparker

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100T have a very good team bro, they will fight for titles in 2025

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askrial

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i never said they are not good (boostio is questionable. igl is good, aim is...). im just saying that g2 can definitely beat them (especially now with jawg)

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bfrparker

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They are 2 very good and balanced teams in my opinion, in a match between them I believe anything can happen

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askrial

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i agree to disagree

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dort

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fucking dogshit list please never make a list again or i will be forced to confiscate your device

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bfrparker

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and why don't you present arguments against my list, or make your own? Stop looking for attention on the internet and seek psychological help

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dort

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already gave you one warning
never make a list again or your device will be confiscated.

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askrial

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you are not him

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bfrparker

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bro thinks he's the protagonist of an anime

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askrial

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sen at 1 is diabolical.
apeks under gx is also questionable.
prx cope is insane.
ts over boom and sin prisa is weird.

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if not SEN, who then?

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askrial

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zekken is good
johnqt has his moments
zellsis sucks. he sells games and not vibes.
n4rrate has been in emea for a year
bang is bang
need i say more

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bfrparker

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Zellsis hasn't really been playing very well, but the other 4 players are very good, and I don't see a problem with N4RRATE being in EMEA for 1 year

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askrial

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since march, n4rrate has been losing in emea regular season. this does not bode well as if he can't win in emea, what chance does he have in the different landscape with different players, different metas, etc.

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his team didn't do well, but he individually played very well, with better players around him, he can perform even better than he did in KC

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1243

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trent is bad
jonahp is mid
leaf has his moments
jawgemo is inconsistent
valyn is good
you can say this about any team yk, you didn't provide any meaningful reasons for your argument. drop the bias.

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askrial

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fair point. mb. also trent isn't bad (usually)

(i still stand by my zellsis point tho)

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bfrparker

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zellsis lower the SEN level a little

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askrial

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real

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1243

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trent just fell off, he used to be the star, now he's mid

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is there leak for the rest 2 GENG players? switch T1 with PRX, and wth DFM is in the bottom? they look decent tbh

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big rumors of being Foxy9 and BeYN in Gen.G
T1 and PRX are quite balanced compared to each other, but I think PRX has the advantage of all the players having been together for a long time
Regarding DFM, I don't have much knowledge about some of the players, but the staff remains the same as in the last 2 years, I don't think their performance will change drastically

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u dont know much emea valorant and it shows

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bfrparker

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arguments?

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swap boom with DFM and i think we got solid tierlist

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I think it's fair

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akaFelipee

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FURIA > LOUD 100%

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zikei

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não duvido

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TYLOO will win 2025. Might be undefeated aswell

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Does Tyloo have fans?

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saw geng at #1 and shuddered

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American list is alright

Imo KC > VIT(i think vit will flop due to no igl), and put BBL and GM about Apeks as they have very cracked players, I think they both deserve to be above GiantX who have a very mid roster

I think Drx should be higher in pacific cause free1ing and hyunmin are both top Korean talent, idk much about leviathan tho, maybe put DRX 4th or 3rd

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Hyunmin and freeing are really good players, I think drx can move up some positions
Apeks is only ninth on my tierlist because the staff is very good, we have to wait for the line to close

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PRX is washed, unless they make roster changes which I don't think will be happening.

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prx continues to have one of the best lines in the game, at Champions 2024 they were unlucky to fall into a very difficult group

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s0ntiluls will be mid af in kickoff and maybe stage 1. then suddenly they will become insane in stage 2 because -zellshits +roluxx

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talk like people

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G2 and NRG are miles ahead of 100t

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100T is still very strong, I think you are underestimating them a lot

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They are, but NRG and G2 are just better

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4 unknown players and Kr1stal???
Not our problem if you don't watch t2

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do you want me to watch T2 from INDIA????? I watch a lot of championships, more than I should, but India is already too much

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Put NRG at the bottom of americas like KOI in EMEA

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I really believe in this new NRG, the staff is good and so are the new hires, it will be crazy if they don't work out

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c9 at 11 is crazy

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C9 is terrible

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MIBR

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KRU will still be a top 6 Americas team next year

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adverso is washed man

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Why would you not doubt loud? They lost their best player and igl

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v1nny, dgzin, pancada and stk have known each other for almost 10 years, I think their rapport in Valorant is essential, plus they will have a lot of time to train

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100T above G2 when G2 got an upgrade and 100T got a sidegrade (on 100T podcast ziks and boostio said if they face G2 again they would still lose) C9 won't be that bad.
KOI is = or higher than GentleMates. FUT>Navi imo Hiro can't carry all that

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100T is still a great team, G2 too, but I believe more in 100T, C9 is the worst team in NA in the franchises, Oxy will have to carry his teammates, KOI put together a terrible line, they will continue to be an extremely weak team, Gentle Mates has a better line than theirs, Navi has a good staff and a good line, the problem is the popcorn makers (chockers) on the M80

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bad take about AMERICAS.

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bfrparker

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fala português maluco

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DFM (your #12) just beat TLN (your #5) last week btw

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off season tournament

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Bro you have no information about china :/

trace 3
nova 4
bili bili 5
wolves 6
xi lai 7
And the rest doesn't matter

If you don't know about some team why are you making a tier list?
At least you could've watched wall e cup

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Wall E-Cup is an off-season tournament, basing it on an off-season tournament is terrible. I can even take an example from Brazil, where the tier 3 team . What I'm saying is that off-season tournaments do not reflect in any way the teams' performance in official championships.

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Even if you don't care about off season tournament you hadn't checked last season too!
Nova in last season especially in the end of the stage 2 got 7th
While they had a complete new team !
And in the stage 2

tyloo got 8
wolves got 9
drg 10
tec 11
If you want to speak fact your still fucked that tire list

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bfrparker

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It's not like the teams haven't reinforced themselves with new players, right?

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So everyone you like got better and others got fucked ?
Do you even know and see China? Or just a dumbass that wants to talk about anything he doesn't have any knowledge of?
Go fucking do some research idiot!

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I think you're very stressed because of a list of a little electronic game, bro, try drinking some water to calm down, there's no team in China that I like or care about at all, I made this list only on the games I saw and in the new team signings, and my most accurate picks were from the Chinese championships

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low effort bait got multiple people, 8/8 for success 0/8 for quality

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bfrparker

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It's not bait, it's just my opinion

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well then there's two solutions for your ass takes:

getting your eyes checked out, perhaps a pair of glasses
going to high school

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Nein.

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Doch

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Nova top 5 at least