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craftydroid

What VCT 2024 team beats another 4v5? You pick the teams and who to "bench." Lets exclude bottom 10 CN for the sake of discussion.

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none it wont happen

vitality: sayf, less, trexx, derke (best 4 man team you can make from a current roster)
would lose to any other vct team

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Holy glaze!

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With a side of hawk tuah

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catNmouse

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already happened in champs. TH were playing 4v5, 3v5 even vs GenG on lotus

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G2 with any 4 of their players would still hard counter Paper Rex, I think

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that's delusional

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cloudberry

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If we're talking 2024 G2 vs. 2024 PRX, I don't think it's too much of a stretch

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yes it is

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_amBrian

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??? g2 beat them twice this year

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Denjisideals

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I agree
PRX LOVES to overheat and ovetpeek and W gaming oogabooga and throw away man advantages so it's basically a 4 v 4

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Ultime

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No team would beat someone 4v5 in this scenario

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ag (bench spitfires) easily clears current sen roster

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craftydroid

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least obvious ccp plant

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MintJunior

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you've been brainwashed by the woke mind virus of the liberal evil left, may 小苹果 have mercy on your soul

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not possible

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Nachtel

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NRG could 4v5 GE

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not happening

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Nachtel

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Why not?

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first name who you will remove

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Ethan

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GambleNats

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no flash inti is trolling. your not getting a single round on atk

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Nachtel

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In this meta you don't need a dedicated flash initiator as much as you need recon/flash flex+smokes

you can run a harbor viper comp between s0m, FNS, and have verno on sova/skye

with the current Neon meta you she could get free entries on a map where cypher isn't meta

If they are playing cypher, then Raze + Skye/Breach + Viper + Harbor is doable if you play default and do good enough executes

Harbor viper is perfect for executes.

Once you're on site you can win post-plant purely based on heroics

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not saying fns is actually crazier than the original statement wtf

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Nachtel

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You can't win a 4v5 without mid-rounding. especially when one of the prerequisites to win a 4v5 is to play really good defaults

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This is so easy... Lev without C0m vs Mibr.

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GambleNats

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lev are gonna get pummelled with no inti util

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presence

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realistically at the pro play level everyone is a top 0.1% player and macro strategy is reliant on team comp so winning a 4v5 is extraordinarily unlikely

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T1 4v5 DFM

#23

moomoomoomeadows

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i mean who has the worst 5v4 rate against who has the best 4v5 rate feels like the play here

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catNmouse

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TH easily had the best 4v5 rate in champs, look at the FK-FD stats in the TH vs GENG game, that alone should tell you

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Its basically happened already

FNC vs G2 on Haven

https://www.vlr.gg/378832/g2-esports-vs-fnatic-valorant-champions-2024-lr1/?game=180443&tab=overview

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https://www.vlr.gg/378664/gen-g-vs-team-heretics-valorant-champions-2024-winners-b/?game=180376&tab=overview

TH won so many rounds with man disadvantage on lotus

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Ryuukami

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g2 & 100t beats prx down 3-5 any time

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No need for 4, just put Tacolilla vs Anyone and Tacolilla wins