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kr world cup

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#1
Hynix

if u don't think it should be a variant of this u r dumb

duelist - t3xture
controller - mako
senti - Meteor, Flashback
initiator - Zest, Ivy
flex (and igl) - Francis, Munchkin

buzz and persia are honorable mentions but t3xture and mako too goated
edit: don't say l0kia lol

#2
unknown_trash
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What about karon as sub for mako or controller? I would choose mako because he's magoat but others may choose differently.

#5
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still mako over karon since consistency and more proven
and ivy over zest for me

#12
gamergirl
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mako was better in stage 1 but karon outperformed him the rest of the year, being good in 2022 wont help you in 2024 sadly karon clears as of today

tbf to mako termi has him doing nightmare shifts

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mako is igling, you don't know if karon just had a life season or something, once francis/munchkin igl mako will outshine karon (karon is good too though can be a sub)

#22
merciless-pity8989-89
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stage 1 and kickoff

#25
Hynix
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mako was better during kickoff as well, as others have noted. the only time his fragging performance dipped in comparison to karon is when he was igling. you make it sound as if he was only superior in 2022, so if he goes back he'll still be worse than karon.

even when considering 2024, an argument can be made for mako post the regular season of stage 2. he was the most valuable player of DRX, a top 6 team, while karon performed poorly on a team that was grouped.

#27
gamergirl
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i said as of today, karon is in better form individually, and i understand the nuance

also as far as champs, karon was better imo but both GEN.G and DRX lost to the same two teams, so I couldn't tell you DRX had a better champs or they just had different opponents, Both lost to two top 4 teams

#29
Hynix
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i admit my mistake, but you must admit that you saying "being good in 2022 wont help you in 2024," is a gross oversimplification, because mako was arguably just as good at the beginning of 2024 as during 2022.

#31
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for sure, im not saying mako is bad or you're wrong to pick him, just that picking him because of consistency is a bit weird in a game this young

and its not like karon is NOT consistent, hes just not played 3 years like mako

karon and mako are around the same level rn, because mako is good, not because mako has been good for a really long time

#36
merciless-pity8989-89
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mako beat him out in nearly every statistical category while IGLING, and his team got further. Put up just as good of a fight against TH, and put up a better fight against Sen

#37
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karon has unreal aim and is a great clutcher, but MaKo is maybe the best decision maker in the entire game. he has picked up every controller agent and played it at a world-class level, as well as becoming a really serviceable caller within only a few months of taking it up. as insane as karon will be going forward, MaKo is perennially a top player in the world. i would try to include both before snubbing MaKo tbh, put Karon on senti or smth

#40
catNmouse
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I don’t know about every controller agent, he had never played harbor I think

#41
drain_angel
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pretty sure he has on icebox before, even so i would be extremely confident in him to play it at a high level. he was a massive innovator during the astra meta and has pioneered a lot of different viper setups on maps (one of the first to do cross map early smoke setups on defense breeze, new meta ults/walls, etc.)

#7
Hynix
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others are wrong

#3
kaninv
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t3xture, munchkin, mako, flashback, ivy
feels bad not having meteor+karon there though
also freeing, hyunmin and persia all look nasty. lots of talent.

#4
SomeoneLikeU
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t3xture, Mako, Meteor have all been top 3 players in the world at one point they need to be on this for sure and I’d add Zest and RB just cause I don’t know many Korean players but they may not be the best.

#11
Hynix
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no igl, need francis or munchkin
zest could be initiator, rb too maybe

#6
diswaco
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t3xture duelist
mako smokes
stax/zest initiator
munchkin igl
buzz/meteor sentinel

cooks no? if they need scan/flash on the same map, then stax fade and munchkin kayo works. on double controller, you have munchkin on viper and stax on skye.

#8
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cannot take you seriously for buzz sentinel and stax initiator

#9
diswaco
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who would you have instead

#10
1243
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meteor flashback for sentinel, francis/ivy initiator zest is good too but hasn't been doing well for the past couple years

#13
diswaco
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meteor sure, which is why i said buzz/meteor. flashback good, but buzz's kj was disgusting at masters tokyo. meteor def has the strongest argument tho. as for francis ivy, neither are t1 proven? stax and zest are both insane and have proven themselves in t1 year after year. nothing zest could really do on bleed as well, it was doomed from the start

#15
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well I'm taking recent results as more prominent measures, I just feel like stax has peaked but francis/ivy will be better
also francis/ivy are mechanically better
i can understand your point but surely meteor starting sentinel

#17
diswaco
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we'll see ig! i def think francis/ivy are promising but i'm going to withhold judgement till i see them play in t1. i hope they prove me wrong though fs. and yeah like i said in another comment, meteor is def best sentinel rn but i'm biased for buzz b/c of drx

#19
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I really like spg players so maybe I'm biased but it feels like korea has a lot of really REALLY good players in multiple roles, hope we get to see a Korean team in world cup someday

#16
Roly05
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BuZz is consistently an amazing player, though he definitely shines on duelist over sentinel. His Kj is very very good though, but the sentinel play is not up to par with Meteor, even Rb's isn't. Now Stax is simply the best korean initiator, especially on flashes when freed up from igling.

#18
diswaco
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yeah i just have drx bias LMAO meteor is definitely best korean sentinel rn

#35
Roly05
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I feel you though, I wish we still had old DRX :(

The org's been making some atrocious choices recently though, not giving any of their newer rosters any time at all to get better... but then again I think that dropping Rb and Zest were mistakes, since they didn't replace them in a way that made sense. If they had dropped one for a "proper" sentinel player (Though they were both great in the senti/viper role respectfully) or a "proper" dedicated igl it might have made sense.

#20
Wunkey
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Honestly, we are so blessed with depth, especially in the controller department. I think our current lineup would be t3xture, MaKo, Munchkin, Flashback, Lakia. However, I think this lineup will very well change after just Pacific Kickoff, when players like last years‘ Tier 2 players inevitably prove themselves in Tier 1.

#21
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lakia is good i won't be one of those who disregards all of his great performances for one bad performance, but there are better options due to (like you said) koreas depth

#23
Wunkey
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I think its highly likely that playwrs like Ivy will eventually surprass him but I’m praying for Lakia remontada; rejoin DRX and make up for throwing our 2021.

#24
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I'll respect that lakia is my fav on geng after meteor, so I'd like that to happen as well

#26
Clucker
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Lakia of valorant?

#28
diswaco
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very good scan init but stax and zest have similar peaks and are more consistent i feel. lakia has value in secondary calling, but stax is an ex-igl and likely provides much of the same insights/midrounding

#30
Hynix
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zest is also an ex-igl. there is literally 0 reason to choose l0kia

#32
yellow_donkey
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t3xture - duelist
mako - controller
munchkin - int/viper (igl)
rb - flex
meteor - senti

this seems like the best option tbh. Rb can literally play anything so I just had to add him to the list

#33
Hynix
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his neon can definitely be very valuable rn which i something i didn't consider

#34
yellow_donkey
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the only issue is
rb - neon, t3xture - senti, meteor - ???
so honestly taking zest/ivy instead of meteor might be another shout since rb can just take up senti

#38
zfmarvin42
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Surely just the geng lineup

#39
diswaco
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mako >>>

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