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Aspas vs Demon1 debate

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#1
Prasinos

Which glazer is more delusional/worst?

Brazilians Aspas Glazers

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Americans Demon1 Glazers
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Start with debate, and as the OP and Brazilian, i have to go with Demon1.
I would have put Aspas vs Tenz, but first, Tenz is retired, second, Tenz glazers would win no diff in this debate of who is more delusional/worst.

#2
OkOkay
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Demon1 fans are shiny pokemons now adays

#3
LordItachi
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Derke clears both.

#10
Prasinos
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Derke glazers isnt that strong this last times, i would say that Alfajer has more strong glazers.

#12
LordItachi
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Alfaer have glazers mostly cause he's turk and young also he good.

#15
crocodilemaniac
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no he has more glazers than derke because derke is washed and booted from FNC

#4
catNmouse
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both are just as bad

#5
Average_VCT_fan
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Aspas glazers win, no diff because their are almost 0 d1 glazers

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Prasinos
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I would highly disagree, yes isnt the same amount as 2023, but still has a lot of Demon1 glazers.

#11
LordItachi
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I would highly disagree, no there are far less demon1 glazers , everyone is d1 hopeful in their heart but they all know he didn't perform up to his peak.

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Prasinos
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I would highly disagree that i disagree with you, in fact, i agree, the first ever win against a team he acomplish, there will be tons of treads of his glazers.

#24
meanie
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one of the most inspirational comments ever dropped on this site

#6
crocodilemaniac
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Aspas glazers obviously. It's impossible to see any valorant goat conversations that aren't aspas glaze jerk circles.

#8
Prasinos
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I tink Aspas glazer give less delusional takes.
But they are too soft, like, when u gonna debate a playrr vs Aspas, you cant say that Aspas is enferior in smth, like.

You are actually retarded if you think Jinng flicks is fasther than Aspas flicks.

You cant even touch in his name.

#9
Itsover
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nAts, Chronicle, sheydos>>>>aspas in every aspect of the game.

#19
Mylotic
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nAts and sheydos ? cmon bro isnt 2021 anymore

#26
Itsover
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Just because sheydos is in koi doesn't mean that he's worse than aspas. Same goes for nAts and lulquid, aspas would never win a single map against a team not named GE or DFM with mistic, enzo and jamppi

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Prasinos
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The only one you mentioned that is worth to think about debating is Chronicle, the other two..... Just no.

#13
crocodilemaniac
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I think I have a bit of a personal bias, to be honest. I just see so many goat conversations and pro player discussions about who is the "GOAT" that I get sick of listening to it all.

What you've pointed out is just blatant bait. Arguing over subjective evidence is just a waste of time and doesn't contribute anything if any meaningful debate wants to be made.

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Prasinos
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Not that much, is more about if someone is better at opining sides than others, yes isnt that meaningful a debate about a flick, but usually is related about some huge mechanic.

And yeah, i dont like the "Goat" title either, i agree Aspas is the best now, but the title "Goat" its just a American overreaction.

#23
crocodilemaniac
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There's no quantifiable way to measure who has a better flick. In fact, the quality of most other mechanics can't be measured . Every pro has crazy clips and embarrassing moments on LAN and one stream.

Any meaningful debate or argument that tries to be initiated and replied to by a subjective opinion like "Oh, but Aspas' flicks clear J0nggg's flicks" or "Oh, but Aspas has better reaction time than S0mething" is stupid. Only debates like "who is the better oper" hold slightly more weight because stats can be provided. But even then, it's not always easy to compare as so many factors come into play, such as consistency of the oper, the maps, which teams were playing and how good the teams were at that stage, the time of the year, etc.

I rarely see these conversations, though, simply because they take much more effort to compile the data for such a stupid conversation that people won't appreciate.

#16
novato1
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Is Demon1 the next Faker?
both became the best player itw in their rookie year
both won the biggest event in their rookie year
both changed their teams from being mediocre no names to big shots after joining
both disappeared the following year after their rookie stardom
Faker won his first Worlds in 2013, Demon1 won Champions in 2023, exactly 10 years apart

#20
Prasinos
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Foi justamente esse post que me fez criar essa tread kakakaka

#21
crocodilemaniac
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ASPAS IS THE GOAT JUST ACCEPT

The most successful player who ever lived never had a bad time, always in the top chmapions winner, two-time VCT Americas champion and MVP 🐐🌪️

-DaM1

Look at literally every Goat thread on this site 1 to 2 months ago

#18
crocodilemaniac
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#25
LouBag
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at this point i dont even understand why anyone even talks about demon1 anymore

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