Is Tier 2 Val profitable?

If you are a small organization, lets say for example Fluffy aimers and SaD. Do you actually profit from playing in challengers and not able to qualify for Ascension? Other bigger orgs might have a better time not qualifying to Ascension but they actually have a solid and bigger fan base comparing to the other smaller organizations (For example MxS vs FAIM. Both are teams that didnt qualify to Ascension but we know that Moist will def survive longer because they have solid fan bases and stable sources of funding from huge CC).
Then the players, I doubt players gets paid enough in Challenger/ Ascension teams. Im not sure about the exact amount but I would expect it to be less than a 9/5 job, which makes sense in some perspectives but not enough funds coming to the orgs caused unstable commitments of tier 2 pros in the scene. I would acc say that nitr0 left T2 val and transitioned back to CS because 1. his team is not doing well. 2. he knows theres little future in Tier 2 val. 3. It is just not worth ur time and commitment/ ur results wont match up with ur expectations and hard work.

Im really curious on what u guys thought of the situation

tier 1 orgs barely profit if not go negative one hill i will always die on is i genuinely think that esports is a money laundering scheme cause most if not all orgs lose money in gaming

Is there any tier 2 get profit on any game ?
I swear to god I never seen tier 2 as make profit unless ur part of the region that game is big community
Example:
league : T2 Korea
CS : EU america
Take a note CS they always make decisions that is always second jobs not profit job
What LEO want is T2 same as T2 football (I know it's dream it's really hard) but its depends on community we make

95% of the orgs which are currently in any esports scene are working in a minus, even the big ones

hell no it ain't

It is if you win and dont pay anyone

nah all NA orgs are broke. i bet you there isnt a single NA org that is currently making profit from valorant

Of course not

Short answer, No, I'd be surprised if T1 orgs are making any sort of profit (I think some are) T2 is a struggle like you said :D

Prob not, in one stream LEV CEO mentioned that even though their bundle was the 2nd best selling one in Americas (just under SEN) and getting all the Champions bundle money from making Shanghai they were just able to break even

I can't imagine how bad it went for orgs like NRG with such big names and high salaries when they couldn't make Champs and their bundle didn't sell that well. Though I guess they are just fine since they are pretty big in other games already so I don't think it is that detrimental for the org. But I imagine lots of orgs have to rely on 'alright' players or rookies to play in order to maintain low salaries. Otherwise I'd imagine they'd lose a ton of money

it is not. Valorant needs an organisation like ESL to save the scene

no because esports is basically a passion project for orgs