m80?? | VLR.gg

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I still can't wrap my head around them losing again. Like they literally scrimmed year round with franchised teams while 2G didn't even had 1/10 of the resources m80 had yet they lost??

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m80 losing is good, these T2 superteams winning isn't a good thing, because they're usually made up of old players who already have huge T1 experience yet failed.

2g is fresh brazillian talent, which is the thing americas needed the most. great for the esport

also to ur original point, m80 suck dick and 2g have better mental

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all that to end up being the Bleed of NA is crazy. Atleast we know all NA teams will be top 8 cause there will be a 4 team padding at the bottom cause the Brazilian teams will be there for sure.

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prx 💀 💀💀💀

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Made champs unlike the 3 brazilian teams who were at the bottom of the barrel xD

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At least BR has 1 international trophy, a Champions at that

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yea prime Loud. won cause of an Argentinian Mastermind. Lets see how yal doo without saadhak xD

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To ascend you have to beat your opponents, and M80 couldn’t do that when it mattered most

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Agreed but M80 would have a better season than 2G next year I can guarantee you that

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Eh considering spike can’t play then that can very well be the case. Some of M80s players will definitely be in tier 1 100%

I think M80 would have as good of a season as 2G will if they had spike lmfao

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based on?

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It’s based on mibr furia and loud being bottom 3 this year that’s why

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ding ding ding

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do u really think that with m80 would be different? LMAO, they couldnt even win against a tier 2 team from a dying scene scrimming against premier teams while m80s praticed against t1 LMFAO

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As #2 said, 2G simply has a lot more talented players no offense to M80

Zap has redeemed himself big time and proved to be a good IGL, everyone had this team getting grouped like EDG at champs but they proved everyone wrong

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United Kingdom diff

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scrimming franchised teams doesnt give any advantage
tf u saying

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nothing you say will ever matter

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i mean if he says he's quitting vlr and actually does so, we can celebrate

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fart

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It's about pressure problem maybe? like M80 literally felt cannot lose for the second time. As for 2G, They're farming as joyful as they can, knowing that ascension is not just about winning, but it's also about exposing yourselves to Tier 1 league.

I pretty sure can see 1 or two of 2G's roster get picked up by AMERICAS next year or two years at least as they develop their talent in the pool, if they were not qual, which they were. T2 is all about development and exposure right? winning and qualifying for T1 from a single run is just one of the parts T2 consists of

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Its not that shocking considering the factors.

M80 lost their 2 comfort maps in Ascent and Lotus, which they played alot of in split 2.
2G heavy anti'd them on sunset both times.
Haven was a toss up bc 2G hasn't played it all year and pulled a very unconventional comp.
M80's bind apparently was never super good

Both teams are pretty even imo, different day, different map pool who knows the result?

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Haven is not a toss up. It should be like 80-20 for m80. Its their comfortable map. The fact that they lose hard on that map, they deserved to lose the whole thing.

Not to mention, m80 had all the momentum after easy wins on icebox and abyss(2g map).

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I considered it a toss up bc 2G haven't played it all year (ascension and both splits) so it could've been good or bad. If 2G played the meta comp, yes 80-20 for M80 bc its what they scrim against. However, 2G pulled the iso/yoru which is a hard comp to play against, which brought it back to 50/50 for me

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nah they just had no one else to scrim with

scrimming teams in t1 isnt an excuse to lose because they get destroyed either way and cant adjust

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I think a lot of people are REALLY overhyping 2G. Sure they beat M80 and qualified for Franchising but the road they took to get here was literally paved by other teams. They qualified for the Ascension league by getting third place in both Brazil VCL splits, did not win a single regional and qualified for Ascension on points alone, and then barely qualified for playoffs because TSM lost to All Knights.

Remember this when they become another bottom-tier Brazil team in Americas. They went on a run and hit form at a good time, but it will not stand when they get pummeled by the top Franchising teams.

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I think it’s super dope to see 2G ascend. Maybe the Brazilian T2 orgs will trust their talented region and stop recycling the same players. Even AK’s run showed some new promising players for T1 orgs