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2024 will be forgotten because of the Retake Meta

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#1
amovie

the worst meta to watch happened to be the main meta for all off 2024. It’s just awful, brainless gameplay. The esport peaked last year.

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mattqr
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ngl you may actually be right. this entire year was very mediocre

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amovie
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I’m not joking, these kinda years happen in every esport, boring metas won’t be remembered

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Zaphkiel
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one of the main reasons is that I blame sunset, horrible b site they never cared to fix it the whole year

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DJS
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just because eg was dogshit this year doesnt mean the year is dogshit

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amovie
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2022 was infinitely better than this year, what’s your point

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DJS
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i agree with that, i was trolling

#5
bronzil_enjoyer
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2022 was peak

#7
strange_choc
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it doesn't help that the map pool is retake heavy, everyday it 5v5 post plant arghh 😣

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amovie
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The addition of Sunset solidified it, it’s probably the worst map ever by design because of A site alone

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Ullyr
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bro forgot lineup meta and chamber meta holy that shit was cringe. Chamber meta made dicey and yay look insane and dominate.

#16
amovie
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Was definitely more fun to watch than this

#18
Ullyr
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how? it literally the most low skill shit ever

#20
amovie
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I can’t disagree with you more

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Shawn23
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how was it low skill? You're making it seem like everyone was good with chamber…..

#24
V4mp
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atleast it was cool to watch good AWPers hit good shots, no idea why chamber meta is so maligned when it allowed people to play with arguably the coolest weapon to watch as a spectator

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sideshowsbaldhead
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4th thread in an hour about how the game is bad i might recommend you stop watching 🙏

#11
velocity05
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Ya cause watching chamber being untradeable was so fun

#15
Ullyr
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or when ppl stack lineups and just play post plant that shit was the best

#14
sergueiessenine
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flag flair

#17
localkoolkid
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Bring fracture in for Sunset and replace Icebox for Split (Maybe Lotus for Pearl with improvements to long) and all issues are fixed

#23
amovie
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Can’t believe Fracture has been out for all of 2024 holy shit

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akimb0_
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eh I kind of agree that this meta is boring to watch but you seem to forget that we used to have pearl B site retake simulator in 2023 too and watching bind B retakes last year was horrendous since they'd almost always save guns instead of actually trying.

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amovie
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Pearl B site >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sunset B site
Bind B retakes weren’t even that bad too? Idk I never had a problem with it compared to Pearl B.

#26
NebularCarina
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recency bias hits hard, people genuinely forget how awful playing on Pearl B was

also you got the wrong site on Sunset, A is actually pretty decent

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amovie
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why isnt the A on the left side of the map smh

#36
hehe444
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in 2023 only pearl. in 2024 bind b site, sunset b site, lotus c site pretty much hard to retake. problem is teams cannot be creative. they running same shit.

#21
NebularCarina
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horrible take from am0vie, as per usual

#25
sentinelmain377
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W

This meta is brainrot:
Attackers can just easily overwhelm site with brainrot util and then defenders have to play retake simulator

#27
hehe444
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Actually i don't like this meta. sova is fucking op since game start. cringe double initiator meta. last year was teams can cook anything, like double duelist, double initiator, double smokes metas(teams can be creative). this year same style gameplay from every team. when watch matches, only team i can found being creative this year was GenG. but not from agent comps, like little adjusting's with utilities.

#28
_Nonsense
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The maps this year are horrible
Especially sunset B
The most braindead postplant ever. No need to hold site just smoke urself and spam while 1 guy flanking through market

#29
yawnster
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"Retake meta" 🤣😭 As if retakes haven't been a core part of TacFps since the beginning of the genre, please go watch Overwatch Esports or something

Just waffling for the sake of it

P.s only reason why we didn't see as much retakes in past valorant esports is because teams were dogshit but gradually they have all improved. Current BLG would have 3peated 2021

#33
amovie
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Retakes have been the only shit happening this year, and you can blame the map pool + agent meta for it

#34
yawnster
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Yeah because good teams retake to win games? 😭😭😭😭😭😭 they not just gonna sit on site and get shit on by well performed executes 🤣🤣

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RadishSR
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That's simply meta change. Most teams adapted rather than improve their individual roster. What the argument is here is that the level of competition is so much closer because of the retake/post plant meta. It doesn't allow for creativity as much, and it relies on very similar set plays between different teams. It feels to viewers, like it's the same thing over and over. It might be the best thing for the teams to do, and I'm not blaming them, but when it comes to viewership, it's definitely underwhelming.

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yawnster
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Well all I can say is that's tuff for New valo frogs whose first tacfps is valorant.

All I'm gonna say is as teams keep getting better and better (which they will), we will see alot more of retakes and executes just like in CS

#31
Jarvuy
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I’ll be honest, if SEN wins 2024 will be most remembered. If not then yea it’s gonna be forgotten.

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