the worst meta to watch happened to be the main meta for all off 2024. It’s just awful, brainless gameplay. The esport peaked last year.
mattqr [#2]ngl you may actually be right. this entire year was very mediocre
I’m not joking, these kinda years happen in every esport, boring metas won’t be remembered
mattqr [#2]ngl you may actually be right. this entire year was very mediocre
one of the main reasons is that I blame sunset, horrible b site they never cared to fix it the whole year
strange_choc [#7]it doesn't help that the map pool is retake heavy, everyday it 5v5 post plant arghh 😣
The addition of Sunset solidified it, it’s probably the worst map ever by design because of A site alone
amovie [#6]2022 was infinitely better than this year, what’s your point
i agree with that, i was trolling
velocity05 [#11]Ya cause watching chamber being untradeable was so fun
or when ppl stack lineups and just play post plant that shit was the best
Ullyr [#8]bro forgot lineup meta and chamber meta holy that shit was cringe. Chamber meta made dicey and yay look insane and dominate.
Was definitely more fun to watch than this
amovie [#16]Was definitely more fun to watch than this
how? it literally the most low skill shit ever
akimb0_ [#19]eh I kind of agree that this meta is boring to watch but you seem to forget that we used to have pearl B site retake simulator in 2023 too and watching bind B retakes last year was horrendous since they'd almost always save guns instead of actually trying.
Pearl B site >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sunset B site
Bind B retakes weren’t even that bad too? Idk I never had a problem with it compared to Pearl B.
localkoolkid [#17]Bring fracture in for Sunset and replace Icebox for Split (Maybe Lotus for Pearl with improvements to long) and all issues are fixed
Can’t believe Fracture has been out for all of 2024 holy shit
Ullyr [#8]bro forgot lineup meta and chamber meta holy that shit was cringe. Chamber meta made dicey and yay look insane and dominate.
atleast it was cool to watch good AWPers hit good shots, no idea why chamber meta is so maligned when it allowed people to play with arguably the coolest weapon to watch as a spectator
amovie [#22]Pearl B site >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sunset B site
Bind B retakes weren’t even that bad too? Idk I never had a problem with it compared to Pearl B.
recency bias hits hard, people genuinely forget how awful playing on Pearl B was
also you got the wrong site on Sunset, A is actually pretty decent
Actually i don't like this meta. sova is fucking op since game start. cringe double initiator meta. last year was teams can cook anything, like double duelist, double initiator, double smokes metas(teams can be creative). this year same style gameplay from every team. when watch matches, only team i can found being creative this year was GenG. but not from agent comps, like little adjusting's with utilities.
"Retake meta" 🤣😭 As if retakes haven't been a core part of TacFps since the beginning of the genre, please go watch Overwatch Esports or something
Just waffling for the sake of it
P.s only reason why we didn't see as much retakes in past valorant esports is because teams were dogshit but gradually they have all improved. Current BLG would have 3peated 2021
NebularCarina [#26]recency bias hits hard, people genuinely forget how awful playing on Pearl B was
also you got the wrong site on Sunset, A is actually pretty decent
why isnt the A on the left side of the map smh
Ullyr [#18]how? it literally the most low skill shit ever
how was it low skill? You're making it seem like everyone was good with chamber…..
yawnster [#29]"Retake meta" 🤣😭 As if retakes haven't been a core part of TacFps since the beginning of the genre, please go watch Overwatch Esports or something
Just waffling for the sake of it
P.s only reason why we didn't see as much retakes in past valorant esports is because teams were dogshit but gradually they have all improved. Current BLG would have 3peated 2021
Retakes have been the only shit happening this year, and you can blame the map pool + agent meta for it
amovie [#33]Retakes have been the only shit happening this year, and you can blame the map pool + agent meta for it
Yeah because good teams retake to win games? 😭😭😭😭😭😭 they not just gonna sit on site and get shit on by well performed executes 🤣🤣
yawnster [#34]Yeah because good teams retake to win games? 😭😭😭😭😭😭 they not just gonna sit on site and get shit on by well performed executes 🤣🤣
That's simply meta change. Most teams adapted rather than improve their individual roster. What the argument is here is that the level of competition is so much closer because of the retake/post plant meta. It doesn't allow for creativity as much, and it relies on very similar set plays between different teams. It feels to viewers, like it's the same thing over and over. It might be the best thing for the teams to do, and I'm not blaming them, but when it comes to viewership, it's definitely underwhelming.
akimb0_ [#19]eh I kind of agree that this meta is boring to watch but you seem to forget that we used to have pearl B site retake simulator in 2023 too and watching bind B retakes last year was horrendous since they'd almost always save guns instead of actually trying.
in 2023 only pearl. in 2024 bind b site, sunset b site, lotus c site pretty much hard to retake. problem is teams cannot be creative. they running same shit.
RadishSR [#35]That's simply meta change. Most teams adapted rather than improve their individual roster. What the argument is here is that the level of competition is so much closer because of the retake/post plant meta. It doesn't allow for creativity as much, and it relies on very similar set plays between different teams. It feels to viewers, like it's the same thing over and over. It might be the best thing for the teams to do, and I'm not blaming them, but when it comes to viewership, it's definitely underwhelming.
Well all I can say is that's tuff for New valo frogs whose first tacfps is valorant.
All I'm gonna say is as teams keep getting better and better (which they will), we will see alot more of retakes and executes just like in CS