GOAT list | VLR.gg

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welikefortniteandvalorant

Chronicle
Leo
Alfajer
aspas
FNS

EDIT
Honorable Mentions: Derke, nAts

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Chronicle
Aspas
Leo
Alfajer
Derke

Honorable Mentions: Sacy, Less, Yay, nAts, Mako, Shao
Honorable Mentions excluding aim accusations: Boaster, Saadhak, FNS

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Leo better than aspas

But derke is a good shout dont know why i forgot him

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WWW
Chronicle GOAT FLEX and 4th GOAT Initiator
Aspas GOAT DUELIST
Leo GOAT INITIATOR
Alfajer GOAT SENTINEL
Derke 2nd GOAT DUELIST

MaKo (GOAT Controller aint here cuz no trophies keke)
Boaster Saadhak (GOAT IGLs ain’t here cuz aim)

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Derke
Chronicle
Aspas
Leo
Alfajer

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"goat list" and u listed 3 emea players? This can't be right

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Where is TenZ

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nowhere near goat status

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i believe what TenZ has Done this year puts him in GOAT status because of his first spell all the way back in 2021 but if he wins champs this year then its undebatable that he is the GOAT

#SENCITY

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welikefortniteandvalorant

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Look at all the players i mentioned, they all entered high level of valorant early (except Alfa maybe) and they all had fantastic years from start upto now

TenZ has a massive gap of 2022 and 2023, hes too inconsistent to be up there in the goat debate

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He is over talked about for his 2021 LMFAO and since all of you are new fans, you believe the false history by the AMERICAS APAC propaganda

Nats, Chronicle, Cned, TenZ, ScreaM, Derke were the top 6 players of 2021 in this order

Irrelevant in 2022-2023 and 2024 Stage 1

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i don't know why there is some many portuguese flags glazing tenz on vlr, like i always see portuguese flag + sen flair glazing tenz everywhere.

Why do you guys like him so much?

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Lol fnc players are so glazed for being mid and cleared by t2 na teams

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welikefortniteandvalorant

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Chronicle 3 trophies
Leo 2 trophies
Alfajer 2 trophies
aspas 1 trophy
fns 1 trophy

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Cool win a champs

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Chronicle GOAT FLEX and 4th GOAT Initiator
Aspas GOAT DUELIST
Leo GOAT INITIATOR
Alfajer GOAT Sentinel
Derke 2nd GOAT DUELIST

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Less clears alfa

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All time
Alfa clears in 2023
Alfa clears in 2024
Alfa clears in trophies
Etc

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Less cleared Alfa 3-0 (BIG senti gap every time)

Champs trophy >>>> 🐁 + Tokyo where both champs finalists had visa issues for their star players

Also beating FPX >>> anything Fnatic did in 2024 (also didn't get embarrassed by FUT)

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NOOOO cuckajer is better than less bcos he won 2 more rounds than less on icebox lock-in

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Why are you guys so dum lmao? Like I almost never get actual counter-points to any conversation from ppl like u. Like bro somehow thinks LOUD > FNATIC in 2024 ICANT

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nihso

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Less is more.
Alfajer is not.

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sentinelmain377

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Bro doesn’t watch Alfajer games

This guy clears tf out of Less

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nihso

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Alfajer couldn't clear Less when they played against each other.

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I watched alfa get gapped by less every time they played each other.

I also saw Less carry a trophy that was like, really big. Not one of those worthless ones that breaks on airplanes.

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trying to misdirect, this isn't about loud vs fnatic, its about Less vs Alfajer

Less senti gapped him 3-0. He is better. He can also call himself a champion, alfajer cannot (because of less).

Also, nobody ever suggested for one second that benjyfishy was better than Less, alfa however...

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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ugwcTFXitNf8Vej9E7A_eb0exhs3lW7GRFwk4RZSyvA/edit?gid=0#gid=0

aspas is on your list not derke? put on brazil flag lil bro no need to hide your bias

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LMFAOOOOO

Title it GOAT Duelist debate cuz Chronicle goat rn

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kristof

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Get rid of FNS, not even NA’s best IGL oat

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Nachtel

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Duelists:

Aspas
Sayf
t3xture

IGLs:

Saadhak
Boaster
FNS (Valyn here if he wins champs)

Smokes players:

MaKo
mindfreak
Marved

Sentinel players:

Less
Alfajer
Suygetsu

Scan Initiators:

Leo
Shao

Flex players:

f0rsaken
Ethan
Chronicle

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Please stop
Like actually 🛑 stop

My eyes need to be bleached

Here is a perfect list: https://www.vlr.gg/368213/top-5-of-each-role-all-time

Remember that 2024 is a year in the comparisons now with 2020-2023 (which is why Boaster > Saadhak and Alfajer > Less)

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XD

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People are sleeping on Sayf man, he's the only duelist who is, skillwise, on equal footing with Aspas as a duelist

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All time

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I'm not basing it off achievements, I'm basing it off skill displayed, even if their team lost.

Sayf, even though he's not on a top EMEA roster, has, to me, shown he's undisputably the best duelist in EMEA for the last 2 years now

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Bro forgot the real Derke of 2021-2022

Sayf is a top 5 flex of all time though (in my list)

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We can't be counting 2022, Derke and Sayf were both just abusing chamber (which they were both damn good at tbf)

2021 doesn't feel real, I genuinely think DFM today could go back to 2021 and win both masters and champs. by that logic TenZ is in the goat conversation

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Actually nvm
I completely changed my mind and kinda agree on Sayf being a top 5 duelist

Also removed him from flex (idk why I had him there when he hasn’t even played that much flex - did some Breach Cypher in the old days and main flex in early 2024, but not enough)

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That's fair. I also just wanna add that he's one of like a very select few duelists who can play Raze, Jett, and Neon at the highest level.

actual blessing to the coaching staff of whatever team he joins

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And he is a god tier caller and god tier in helping with a team’s mental (I have seen many interviews and other stuff)

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Nachtel

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Dude just reply to me instead of editing your message for the 10th time lol

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Remember that 2024 is a year in the comparisons now

its a goat list, braindead

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f0rsaken best flex is the biggest joke ever, man literally played breach last series and got 0 assists, he can just shoot his gun but that doesnt mean hes a good flex

Atleast Ethan and Chronicle have trophies to back it up

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W

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for me derke is either the best or second best duelist of all time, sayf is incredible but hasnt had the results yet to prove he deserves a spot

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MEMEA fans playing pretend that their dogshit players are the best kekw

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welikefortniteandvalorant

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These players achieved way more in 1 year than ur useless org did in 4 years

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yeah memeatard cope harder

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welikefortniteandvalorant

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Chronicle has more trophies than ur whole org 🤣

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genuinely afreecatv is almost as legitimate of a trophy as lock in

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not even giving sacy or tenz an honorable mention lmfao

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welikefortniteandvalorant

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Sacy is up there ngl but tenz isnt. And all of the players mentioned are better than sacy.

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tenz is not in contention for GOAT title right now

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Where is TenZ and Sacy?

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Sacy is up there ngl but tenz isnt. And all of the players mentioned are better than sacy.

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TenZ has qualifed for 4 LANs (not including lock in) and has won 2 of them. 50% winrate at LANs with 2 different teams is telling you something. He is the cornerstone to his teams and just dominates matches with ease.