GOAT list

1. Chronicle
2. Leo
3. Alfajer
4. aspas
5. FNS

EDIT
Honorable Mentions: Derke, nAts

1. Chronicle
2. Aspas
3. Leo
4. Alfajer
5. Derke

Honorable Mentions: Sacy, Less, Yay, nAts, Mako, Shao
Honorable Mentions excluding aim accusations: Boaster, Saadhak, FNS

1. Derke
2. Chronicle
3. Aspas
4. Leo
5. Alfajer

sentinelmain377 [#2]

1. Chronicle
2. Aspas
3. Leo
4. Alfajer
5. Derke

Honorable Mentions: Sacy, Less, Yay, nAts, Mako, Shao
Honorable Mentions excluding aim accusations: Boaster, Saadhak, FNS

Leo better than aspas

But derke is a good shout dont know why i forgot him

"goat list" and u listed 3 emea players? This can't be right

Where is TenZ

Lol fnc players are so glazed for being mid and cleared by t2 na teams

exxSenpai [#6]

Where is TenZ

nowhere near goat status

OkOkay [#7]

Lol fnc players are so glazed for being mid and cleared by t2 na teams

Chronicle 3 trophies
Leo 2 trophies
Alfajer 2 trophies
aspas 1 trophy
fns 1 trophy

welikefortniteandvalorant [#9]

Chronicle 3 trophies
Leo 2 trophies
Alfajer 2 trophies
aspas 1 trophy
fns 1 trophy

Cool win a champs

welikefortniteandvalorant [#9]

Chronicle 3 trophies
Leo 2 trophies
Alfajer 2 trophies
aspas 1 trophy
fns 1 trophy

Chronicle GOAT FLEX and 4th GOAT Initiator
Aspas GOAT DUELIST
Leo GOAT INITIATOR
Alfajer GOAT Sentinel
Derke 2nd GOAT DUELIST

welikefortniteandvalorant [#4]

Leo better than aspas

But derke is a good shout dont know why i forgot him

WWW
Chronicle GOAT FLEX and 4th GOAT Initiator
Aspas GOAT DUELIST
Leo GOAT INITIATOR
Alfajer GOAT SENTINEL
Derke 2nd GOAT DUELIST

MaKo (GOAT Controller aint here cuz no trophies keke)
Boaster Saadhak (GOAT IGLs ain’t here cuz aim)

welikefortniteandvalorant [#8]

nowhere near goat status

i believe what TenZ has Done this year puts him in GOAT status because of his first spell all the way back in 2021 but if he wins champs this year then its undebatable that he is the GOAT

#SENCITY

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ugwcTFXitNf8Vej9E7A_eb0exhs3lW7GRFwk4RZSyvA/edit?gid=0#gid=0

aspas is on your list not derke? put on brazil flag lil bro no need to hide your bias

laeDLaer [#14]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ugwcTFXitNf8Vej9E7A_eb0exhs3lW7GRFwk4RZSyvA/edit?gid=0#gid=0

aspas is on your list not derke? put on brazil flag lil bro no need to hide your bias

LMFAOOOOO

Title it GOAT Duelist debate cuz Chronicle goat rn

exxSenpai [#13]

i believe what TenZ has Done this year puts him in GOAT status because of his first spell all the way back in 2021 but if he wins champs this year then its undebatable that he is the GOAT

#SENCITY

Look at all the players i mentioned, they all entered high level of valorant early (except Alfa maybe) and they all had fantastic years from start upto now

TenZ has a massive gap of 2022 and 2023, hes too inconsistent to be up there in the goat debate

exxSenpai [#13]

i believe what TenZ has Done this year puts him in GOAT status because of his first spell all the way back in 2021 but if he wins champs this year then its undebatable that he is the GOAT

#SENCITY

He is over talked about for his 2021 LMFAO and since all of you are new fans, you believe the false history by the AMERICAS APAC propaganda

Nats, Chronicle, Cned, TenZ, ScreaM, Derke were the top 6 players of 2021 in this order

Irrelevant in 2022-2023 and 2024 Stage 1

Get rid of FNS, not even NA’s best IGL oat

Duelists:

1. Aspas
2. Sayf
3. t3xture

IGLs:

1. Saadhak
2. Boaster
3. FNS (Valyn here if he wins champs)

Smokes players:

1. MaKo
2. mindfreak
3. Marved

Sentinel players:

1. Less
2. Alfajer
3. Suygetsu

Scan Initiators:

1. Leo
2. Shao

Flex players:

1. f0rsaken
2. Ethan
3. Chronicle

Nachtel [#19]

Duelists:

1. Aspas
2. Sayf
3. t3xture

IGLs:

1. Saadhak
2. Boaster
3. FNS (Valyn here if he wins champs)

Smokes players:

1. MaKo
2. mindfreak
3. Marved

Sentinel players:

1. Less
2. Alfajer
3. Suygetsu

Scan Initiators:

1. Leo
2. Shao

Flex players:

1. f0rsaken
2. Ethan
3. Chronicle

Please stop
Like actually 🛑 stop

My eyes need to be bleached

Here is a perfect list: https://www.vlr.gg/368213/top-5-of-each-role-all-time

Remember that 2024 is a year in the comparisons now with 2020-2023 (which is why Boaster > Saadhak and Alfajer > Less)

sentinelmain377 [#20]

Please stop
Like actually 🛑 stop

My eyes need to be bleached

Here is a perfect list: https://www.vlr.gg/368213/top-5-of-each-role-all-time

Remember that 2024 is a year in the comparisons now with 2020-2023 (which is why Boaster > Saadhak and Alfajer > Less)

XD

MEMEA fans playing pretend that their dogshit players are the best kekw

not even giving sacy or tenz an honorable mention lmfao

sentinelmain377 [#20]

Please stop
Like actually 🛑 stop

My eyes need to be bleached

Here is a perfect list: https://www.vlr.gg/368213/top-5-of-each-role-all-time

Remember that 2024 is a year in the comparisons now with 2020-2023 (which is why Boaster > Saadhak and Alfajer > Less)

People are sleeping on Sayf man, he's the only duelist who is, skillwise, on equal footing with Aspas as a duelist

michaelisupset [#23]

not even giving sacy or tenz an honorable mention lmfao

Sacy is up there ngl but tenz isnt. And all of the players mentioned are better than sacy.

sentinelmain377 [#20]

Please stop
Like actually 🛑 stop

My eyes need to be bleached

Here is a perfect list: https://www.vlr.gg/368213/top-5-of-each-role-all-time

Remember that 2024 is a year in the comparisons now with 2020-2023 (which is why Boaster > Saadhak and Alfajer > Less)

Dude just reply to me instead of editing your message for the 10th time lol

Nachtel [#19]

Duelists:

1. Aspas
2. Sayf
3. t3xture

IGLs:

1. Saadhak
2. Boaster
3. FNS (Valyn here if he wins champs)

Smokes players:

1. MaKo
2. mindfreak
3. Marved

Sentinel players:

1. Less
2. Alfajer
3. Suygetsu

Scan Initiators:

1. Leo
2. Shao

Flex players:

1. f0rsaken
2. Ethan
3. Chronicle

f0rsaken best flex is the biggest joke ever, man literally played breach last series and got 0 assists, he can just shoot his gun but that doesnt mean hes a good flex

Atleast Ethan and Chronicle have trophies to back it up

Nachtel [#24]

People are sleeping on Sayf man, he's the only duelist who is, skillwise, on equal footing with Aspas as a duelist

All time

welikefortniteandvalorant [#27]

f0rsaken best flex is the biggest joke ever, man literally played breach last series and got 0 assists, he can just shoot his gun but that doesnt mean hes a good flex

Atleast Ethan and Chronicle have trophies to back it up

W

sentinelmain377 [#11]

Chronicle GOAT FLEX and 4th GOAT Initiator
Aspas GOAT DUELIST
Leo GOAT INITIATOR
Alfajer GOAT Sentinel
Derke 2nd GOAT DUELIST

Less clears alfa

sentinelmain377 [#28]

All time

I'm not basing it off achievements, I'm basing it off skill displayed, even if their team lost.

Sayf, even though he's not on a top EMEA roster, has, to me, shown he's undisputably the best duelist in EMEA for the last 2 years now

sentinelmain377 [#20]

Please stop
Like actually 🛑 stop

My eyes need to be bleached

Here is a perfect list: https://www.vlr.gg/368213/top-5-of-each-role-all-time

Remember that 2024 is a year in the comparisons now with 2020-2023 (which is why Boaster > Saadhak and Alfajer > Less)

Remember that 2024 is a year in the comparisons now

its a goat list, braindead

Nachtel [#31]

I'm not basing it off achievements, I'm basing it off skill displayed, even if their team lost.

Sayf, even though he's not on a top EMEA roster, has, to me, shown he's undisputably the best duelist in EMEA for the last 2 years now

Bro forgot the real Derke of 2021-2022

Sayf is a top 5 flex of all time though (in my list)

Average_NA_fan [#22]

MEMEA fans playing pretend that their dogshit players are the best kekw

These players achieved way more in 1 year than ur useless org did in 4 years

welikefortniteandvalorant [#34]

These players achieved way more in 1 year than ur useless org did in 4 years

yeah memeatard cope harder

Yuh_aye [#30]

Less clears alfa

All time
Alfa clears in 2023
Alfa clears in 2024
Alfa clears in trophies
Etc

Average_NA_fan [#35]

yeah memeatard cope harder

Chronicle has more trophies than ur whole org 🤣

Nachtel [#19]

Duelists:

1. Aspas
2. Sayf
3. t3xture

IGLs:

1. Saadhak
2. Boaster
3. FNS (Valyn here if he wins champs)

Smokes players:

1. MaKo
2. mindfreak
3. Marved

Sentinel players:

1. Less
2. Alfajer
3. Suygetsu

Scan Initiators:

1. Leo
2. Shao

Flex players:

1. f0rsaken
2. Ethan
3. Chronicle

for me derke is either the best or second best duelist of all time, sayf is incredible but hasnt had the results yet to prove he deserves a spot

Nachtel [#24]

People are sleeping on Sayf man, he's the only duelist who is, skillwise, on equal footing with Aspas as a duelist

Actually nvm
I completely changed my mind and kinda agree on Sayf being a top 5 duelist

Also removed him from flex (idk why I had him there when he hasn’t even played that much flex - did some Breach Cypher in the old days and main flex in early 2024, but not enough)

sentinelmain377 [#33]

Bro forgot the real Derke of 2021-2022

Sayf is a top 5 flex of all time though (in my list)

We can't be counting 2022, Derke and Sayf were both just abusing chamber (which they were both damn good at tbf)

2021 doesn't feel real, I genuinely think DFM today could go back to 2021 and win both masters and champs. by that logic TenZ is in the goat conversation

sentinelmain377 [#39]

Actually nvm
I completely changed my mind and kinda agree on Sayf being a top 5 duelist

Also removed him from flex (idk why I had him there when he hasn’t even played that much flex - did some Breach Cypher in the old days and main flex in early 2024, but not enough)

That's fair. I also just wanna add that he's one of like a very select few duelists who can play Raze, Jett, and Neon at the highest level.

actual blessing to the coaching staff of whatever team he joins

sentinelmain377 [#36]

All time
Alfa clears in 2023
Alfa clears in 2024
Alfa clears in trophies
Etc

Less cleared Alfa 3-0 (BIG senti gap every time)

Champs trophy >>>> 🐁 + Tokyo where both champs finalists had visa issues for their star players

Also beating FPX >>> anything Fnatic did in 2024 (also didn't get embarrassed by FUT)

Where is TenZ and Sacy?

Nachtel [#41]

That's fair. I also just wanna add that he's one of like a very select few duelists who can play Raze, Jett, and Neon at the highest level.

actual blessing to the coaching staff of whatever team he joins

And he is a god tier caller and god tier in helping with a team’s mental (I have seen many interviews and other stuff)

nihso [#43]

Where is TenZ and Sacy?

Sacy is up there ngl but tenz isnt. And all of the players mentioned are better than sacy.

Yuh_aye [#42]

Less cleared Alfa 3-0 (BIG senti gap every time)

Champs trophy >>>> 🐁 + Tokyo where both champs finalists had visa issues for their star players

Also beating FPX >>> anything Fnatic did in 2024 (also didn't get embarrassed by FUT)

NOOOO cuckajer is better than less bcos he won 2 more rounds than less on icebox lock-in

welikefortniteandvalorant [#45]

Sacy is up there ngl but tenz isnt. And all of the players mentioned are better than sacy.

TenZ has qualifed for 4 LANs (not including lock in) and has won 2 of them. 50% winrate at LANs with 2 different teams is telling you something. He is the cornerstone to his teams and just dominates matches with ease.

Yuh_aye [#42]

Less cleared Alfa 3-0 (BIG senti gap every time)

Champs trophy >>>> 🐁 + Tokyo where both champs finalists had visa issues for their star players

Also beating FPX >>> anything Fnatic did in 2024 (also didn't get embarrassed by FUT)

Why are you guys so dum lmao? Like I almost never get actual counter-points to any conversation from ppl like u. Like bro somehow thinks LOUD > FNATIC in 2024 ICANT

sentinelmain377 [#48]

Why are you guys so dum lmao? Like I almost never get actual counter-points to any conversation from ppl like u. Like bro somehow thinks LOUD > FNATIC in 2024 ICANT

Less is more.
Alfajer is not.

sentinelmain377 [#48]

Why are you guys so dum lmao? Like I almost never get actual counter-points to any conversation from ppl like u. Like bro somehow thinks LOUD > FNATIC in 2024 ICANT

trying to misdirect, this isn't about loud vs fnatic, its about Less vs Alfajer

Less senti gapped him 3-0. He is better. He can also call himself a champion, alfajer cannot (because of less).

Also, nobody ever suggested for one second that benjyfishy was better than Less, alfa however...

nihso [#49]

Less is more.
Alfajer is not.

Bro doesn’t watch Alfajer games

This guy clears tf out of Less

sentinelmain377 [#51]

Bro doesn’t watch Alfajer games

This guy clears tf out of Less

Alfajer couldn't clear Less when they played against each other.

sentinelmain377 [#51]

Bro doesn’t watch Alfajer games

This guy clears tf out of Less

I watched alfa get gapped by less every time they played each other.

I also saw Less carry a trophy that was like, really big. Not one of those worthless ones that breaks on airplanes.

michaelisupset [#23]

not even giving sacy or tenz an honorable mention lmfao

tenz is not in contention for GOAT title right now

exxSenpai [#6]

Where is TenZ

i don't know why there is some many portuguese flags glazing tenz on vlr, like i always see portuguese flag + sen flair glazing tenz everywhere.

Why do you guys like him so much?

welikefortniteandvalorant [#37]

Chronicle has more trophies than ur whole org 🤣

genuinely afreecatv is almost as legitimate of a trophy as lock in