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TenZ not a competitor

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Supr3meGucci

Happened in C9 CSGO, you could let it slide because he’s a complete noob to tier one.

Happened in C9 Valorant, where he benched himself and became a “streamer” (read talking about sens and mice every 5 minutes₹

Happens in SEN, looking at history he sadly isn’t coming back any time. This is obviously the most forgivable instance because of his gf’s diagnosis.

All in all, it’s a clear pattern, TenZ seems to be a very unstable player or maybe he lacks competitive drive.

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DosuKinuta
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i still count him as a streamer, not a pros

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Supr3meGucci
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Sad but true, shroud of current times.

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Stratie
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oh my. I wonder who all are the lucky 'pros' you take note of. Tenz is for sure over-rated to a certain degree but has a semi-successful professional career than many of those so called pros. Funny people we have around here determining who are pros and what not.

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Blud stop with the competitive drive. He became a streamer in C9 cause lan wasn't a thing, not even a month after he got picked up by Sen.

The guy literally played his best with a joint injury and covid against Lev, and you're still talking about competitive drive?

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Supr3meGucci
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Let’s be honest. He wouldn’t have been picked up if Sinatraa hadn’t been a gf beater.

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Stratie
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You are genuinely dumb. The concept of what-if itself is dumb. This is not fantasy, this is reality so stop bringing what-if scenarios if you are being serious. They won Champions with tenz. Not with sinatraa. And tenz fucking carried them every game. Stop being such a stupid F!!? You can search his stats up right here on vlr.

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chloeburbank
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next CS2 and val 2

#6
Shawn23
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literally won a Major and was the MVP and respectfully one of the most mechanical aim gifted players in val. stop this dissing shit weirdo.

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Supr3meGucci
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Fake ring against British bots on FNC.

#17
Shawn23
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i guess boaster and derke are both bots lol

#19
Supr3meGucci
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Derke wasn’t anywhere close to as good as he is now.
And anyways the tournament he won wasn’t even a “Major” it was a qualifier to the Champions, the actual Major.

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jawn
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masters are the valo equivalents to cs majors and champions the val equivalent to lol worlds

#25
Supr3meGucci
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Did your dumb ass just simultaneously compare the Valorant system to CS and LoL?

Are you fuck you?

#27
jawn
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yes because that's what it is dumbass

#35
Gutwi
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No its not retard

#36
jawn
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so the multiple international LANs throught the year aren't like the cs majors?
the largest event at the end of season that celebrates the game and the teams with exclusice merch, skins and theme music isn't like worlds?

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Stratie
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You are genuinely dumb omfg 💀💀💀. Now in a year these clueless people will start comparing tenz and T2 indian players.
What is the end goal here?
its obvious that competition gets better with time. That doesn't change the fact that tenz was exceptionally good at Reykjavik. What are you even trying to state here? Trying to come up with 'sad but tenz is bad' cringe shit. This figure of speech is not only with you tenz haters. Yall people in vlr are looking like clowns with these 'ik its sad but its the truth' kind of shit like pleaaase.

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hanafuuji
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a major while beating plumbers and milkmen tho

#29
UBClears
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I wish Boaster was my milk man

#55
JvRR
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Damn Sacy, saadhak, boaster, and derke is a stacked lineup of plumbers and milkmen

#57
number1_MIBR_hater
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sacy and saadhak played with: a guy who is currently unemployed; a guy who is playing on tier 2 and is far from being on the best team in VCB now; and a guy who is on franchising god knows why since he is a duck (walks, swims and flies but it's bad at the three things)
the old FNC roster was bad, if they were good, b0tster wouldn't have changed the team like he did.

so yeah, the first masters was during the milkmen era of this game, it doesn't matter if there was world-class players playing it.

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dapada
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one of the most mechanical aim gifted

KEKW
average SEN delusional fans

#61
Hydra11
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so where are you now?

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Supr3meGucci
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If SEN had replicated anything near the success of what they did at the FIRST Valorant LAN , I would consider them anything but flukers

#21
gr1ef
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won a MAJOR? when? I actually cannot find anything on hltv

#22
jawn
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go back and keep looking till you find it

#30
gr1ef
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gib link then

#34
Stratie
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Although vct cannot be directly compared to the Major in cs in terms of format, structure or prestige it is indeed the biggest and most prestigious tournament series in Valorant's competitive scene.

#38
inkie
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Major could only be Worlds in Valorant, Masters are equivalent to Cologne or Katowice

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Stratie
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what are you correcting me here with? Read again.

#54
gr1ef
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IK what a Major is bro but that guy said TenZ won a Major but I don't remember him winning one neither I could see it on HLTV

#7
Subreezy
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cool opinion! direspectfully, ratio.

#8
SpltWong
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maybe bc his wife has cancer? give that a thought

#40
inkie
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HooXi's dad (CS) passed away one day before the last big event of the year (he was about to be benched due to poor results) and after that he won the next 2 big events for G2 after 5 years (Blast Premier World Finals and Katowice) and lead them to N1 in rankings

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jawn
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the implications here are disgusting

#44
inkie
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where are the "implications"? im just telling facts, you all are reducing everything to his gf like she is the problem lol

#47
jawn
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you're literally weaponizing hooxi's horrible situation to shit on tenz who is in an even more fucked situation, as if struggling is not acceptable because someone else managed to go through it, grow tf up

#45
archetype
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you are fucked bro

#46
Stratie
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Idk what to tell you.
Try to be more humane.

#52
IAmCheese
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bruh be human

#9
Pengu12
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C9(as u said)
On the valo team he was performing and benched himself
Sen(unfortunately he has a lot going on rn my friend, u don’t know anything about his situation so how about u do comment on his work ethic😁)

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jawn
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he would have quit if he didn't have competitive drive, you can't even comprehend the amount of pressure he has on his shoulders at all times

#16
Supr3meGucci
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Every competitor has pressure on their shoulders, the ones that take it well and rise to the occasion are who will be remembered.

#20
jawn
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no valorant player has or will ever face the amount of pressure TenZ has, you're also very hypocritical, he has risen to the occasion multiple times and even winning the trophy while having one of the best statistical performances ever but you will label it as a fluke because it suits your dumbass narrative, get a grip

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Itachi99
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no valorant player has or will ever face the amount of pressure TenZ has, you're also very hypocritical, he has risen to the occasion multiple times and even winning the trophy while having one of the best statistical performances ever but you will label it as a fluke because it suits your dumbass narrative, get a grip

#49
number1_MIBR_hater
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because of course the salary of a pro player is similar to a streamer, plus SEN already has tarik who gets a lot of viewership

#12
brahianv
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i dont why people downvote him when he said valid points.

#31
Zsaber
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It is true ngl but as of rn hopes he recovers

#32
UBClears
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I always felt that TenZ was more suited for streaming than competing. He just had insane mechanical aim, but you need more to have longevity as a top player

#39
Chow1E
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this

#58
Supr3meGucci
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I agree

#37
TkM
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still happy for him, that he dominated the early days of val + won a trophy + mvp award. seems like a super chill, down to earth guy. doesnt deserve all the shit he gets.

as of now, its the best. let the dude rest, life can be cruel.

#43
Xerol
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Yall mfs will say anything honestly. Look at Yay. If yay was never on Optic and yall saw him on C9, you would all be saying the same thing abt some competitive drive or inconsistency, only looking at their worst recent performances. Under the right team, right management, a player can shine. It's not some magical formula that can only mystically happen when you put the best players together, but it requires a lot of practice and meshing from the team itself. Like when you teach a newborn to walk or a toddler to talk, or a new couple how to live healthily with one another, you need a team to work with one another OVER TIME to become the best. So many people used to immediate results and instant gratification don't really know about hard work.

#50
Stratie
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visit the posts these people had in their timeline. Its just tenz bad yay bad posts from the same people for the past 1 week. You know where to stop when you see this. These people literally don't even think about some situations or possibilities. Pretty sure they are the same people who say god doesn't exist cause he is not coming when I summon him. Lost cause...sigh.

#48
daebak
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this has 0 to do with competitive drive. hes stepping away due to kyedae having cancer and health issues which arent even related to competitive drive. youre such a weirdo

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number1_MIBR_hater
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the truth is: TenZ was good when he had no competition, when the meta was pure shit and teams were still getting into the game
Just look after iceland 2021 what they accomplished, they almost got defeated by FURIA on a bo3 and FURIA just lost it because shahzam had to take a crap on the bathroom since his pants were already full of shit.

I understand the things he's been going through RIGHT NOW and honestly I think he stepping down to take a time to heal his both mental and physical wounds IS THE RIGHT THING and he shoud also support his wife during this rough times, BUT all of that is an episode apart from his career, the fact is: he can't perform like he did on the beginning of the game and probably he doesn't have the will to evolve like other top tier players (Derke for example)

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Loomer
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the problem with your example of using derke tho is that it just highlights the difference in environments both have been set up in. derke has been able to stick with mini who is a good a coach and boaster who is a good igl for a long time coupled with roster changes that actually made his team good. tenz on the other hand went through too long of a time without an actual coach and stuck with mostly the same og sen players even when it was no longer working out. by the time they made a good roster change it was too little too late.

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number1_MIBR_hater
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but also the problem with your statement is that tenz was held high even tho there was a lot of people saying all that i said, and those who held tenz that high used to jsut spam that we were tenz haters and shit like that. The only ones to blame were, for sure, tenz fanbase and sentinels as an org. I understand the structure of a team should come from the org, but also the players were confortable to use the masters 1 trophy as a shield to any critiscim. If you have a legion of people blindly saying you're the best and an org that falls into the confort zone.

I highly doubt everything that happened during 2021/2022 was all sentinels fault. The players were confortable and some even had arrogance just because they won a trophy during the farmers era of the game. You can't expect to improve if you sit back and wait for someone to do something.

#59
LilUziSkrr
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2024 and he is a 2 times master winner and competing for champs. Somethings really don't age well.

#60
Supr3meGucci
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Crazy

#62
Hyssopus1
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Take tenz clout away in 2023 he would retire 100%, you can put any player in the same situation as tenz in 2023 he would be atleast kicked from SEN if it was not his clout.

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dort
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2 time mickey mouse cup holder* get ur facts straight before riding his meat

#65
KaiZen02
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He is talking about total masters wins till now, learn english, although flag clears.

#67
dort
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reykjavik 21 and madrid hold the same weight as a knights monthly gauntlet. probably even less than that

#63
SunnyFromVLR
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Think this is a braindead thread but I will give my 2 cents here cus im bored. Tenz became a streamer because C9 was so shit and he legit couldnt carry them. I remember he would go insane as jett every game just for his teammates to collectivly drop 20 kills together.
SEN picked him up and saved his career

#66
Ohio
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Bro waited a full year to reply lmfao

#68
sanknight
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tenz could take ya bitch 😂

#69
Tryeue2
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t0nz

#70
Denjisideals
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Thank God pookie shifted roles...

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