DACH Best T2? | VLR.gg

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Selfim

In wo0t's stream someone said "best t2 in emea is the turkish t2." and woot saw that and said that DACH was the best one and also said that CGN was beating them in scrims. And CGN placed 2nd on DACH league.

So MOUZ winning ascension???

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Targu1n

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bro not even us dach watchers think dach is doing shit xD

but ye I can see dach being good in scrims. In terms of current talent dach will be probably top 3 with spain and turkey due to us importing all the stars from other leagues

shame our teams look ass in officials

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Selfim

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Im hoping that CGN win play-ins cuz i actually like em

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Targu1n

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wouldnt mind it
theyre nice guys and their analyst zescht is super fun when he joins random twitch chats

dach doing well would be a nice change if only for t1 teams to start picking up some of the talent thats currently in our region (~~even if its not a german player~~)
cause dang people be sleeping on some of the kids

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Mortadelo

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CGN have been a very good team for a long time and Mouz seem to have stopped choking, but I don't think they're favorites
Then again it's kinda impossible to know because regions play each other once a fucking year

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nobody___100

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honestly the bottom half of emea is so bad that if a good team wins ascension they will either be bottom 2 or top 5

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Mortadelo

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the bottom half of EMEA is not bad at all rn. That being said it doesn't really matter cause it will be different rosters next year

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nobody___100

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no its hot ass
kc - kickoff merchants
navi - fpx 2022 is done
bbl - mid af (except elite and maybe qutionerx)
liquid - shitquid
giantx - r0dgar is ass at igl
m8 - truly mid af, takas needs to go
koi - wins some games at the end, consolation games lmao

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Mortadelo

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I could say the same about absolutely any region . If I'm comparing bottom teams I'm taking KOI over MIBR any day of the week for example

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nobody___100

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mibr clears the entire bottom half of emea

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orqn

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ok buddy

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Mortadelo

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ok buddy

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Tryeue2

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?

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7whanzussjwbsysbbejskaoao

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ok buddy

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cloudberry

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KC were by far the best team in EMEA, then sort of got exposed for relying on set strats then had a bad read on the meta heading into Stage 2

NAVI got Leo Faria'd twice and then dropped their coach for some reason, otherwise they were easily top 4 in EMEA all year

BBL does well against great teams and poorly against bad teams, but overall they're a very solid roster

TL had a few very subtle and easy-to-fix problems. Like all it took was nAts IGLing and a small change in vibes and they almost made playoffs

GX doesn't even have Redgar on the main roster so idk what you're talking about

M8 threw a few crucial games (notably NAVI and GX), otherwise they would've made playoffs

KOI looked terrible until midway through Stage 1 then completely turned it around. If they played like they did in Stage 2 all year they would've been a middle-of-the-pack team for sure

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nobody___100

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making playoffs doesn;t make them a good team
only teams I liked as of stage 2 were heretics vitality fnc fut and unironically koi
the rest just didn't play well

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cloudberry

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I'm not saying they're good, per se, I'm saying they're not bad

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nobody___100

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yes but i've seen better from many in tier 2

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cloudberry

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Yeah cuz tier 2 is goated

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Mortadelo

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You do realize you would have said the same last year yet you just said the ascension winner is "truly mid af"

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nobody___100

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i didn't watch tier 2 last year

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Liwus

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Inshallah

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my-dad-ate-my-toes

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Nah bro Spain absolutely curbstomps the other T2 leagues tbh

CASE (o7), KPI, UCAM and Barca could all win Ascension

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koromast

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ramboot was good too

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bro did Ramboot dirty

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Rocky54

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Bro know game