How good was yay?

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I'm fairly new to the Val scene, been following for a year or so. I know yay was part of the Optic core that won a Masters, but I keep hearing about him having a god-tier season. Can anyone fill me in with how good he was? Links to old VODs welcome too but I'm just curious with how far apart he was from the other players at the time.

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WhoseTao

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oh im old old.......

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number2_cNed_fan

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how do u think i feel when they ask me about prime cNed

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CanadianLegend

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bro I still remember when he dropped down haven and quick scoped someone and Pansy said send his highlight reel to NA

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The good old days 😢

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ShaoFeng

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Average +30 every series

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BUFF163

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not hard when you go third map even against teams like boom gaming

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espeon

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highest peak a player has ever had so far in an entire year

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BulkyLettuce

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highest peak ever is tenz, didnt drop a single map, highest rated player in history and no ones even been close to beating his records

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Uncleben

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Reading comprehension broski he said across an entire year not a tournament

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BulkyLettuce

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i just wanted to add highest peak a player has ever achieved, its impossible to achieve the peak tenz had on a consistent level its not human

https://x.com/willminder/status/1744843988673184187

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ButterflyEffect23

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bruh it was one tournament

the first ever international tournament, when they scene and the attending teams were mostly underdeveloped

with time someone will overtake his records, chill out

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BulkyLettuce

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consistency when regarding peaks is irrelevant. Whole point of a "peak" is the peak of your gameplay and the best you've every played it isnt about consistency

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Uncleben

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So then asuna has a higher peak than tenz since he dropped 48 kills in a map, confirmed asuna >>> tenz

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BulkyLettuce

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no, this is in a vct international tournament setting, where the best of the best play each other. I'll post this again since you seemed to miss it: https://x.com/willminder/status/1744843988673184187

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Uncleben

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The game has been out for 4 years Brodie I’m not one esport or sport does one event or tournament count as a peak

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BulkyLettuce

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consistency when regarding peaks is irrelevant

also tourney is a good metric since there is only 3 tourney in a year

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ButterflyEffect23

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Alfajer is actually more impressive lmao

TenZ played plumbers at the beginning of the game, Alfa got practically the same numbers while playing in a much harder era

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BulkyLettuce

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Alfa has a higher peak than yay too

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Uncleben

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Yeah the Alfajer Tokyo was insane, he did it on a sentinel agent as well

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His literal point is that despite there being better players, tenz still holds the record for being the highest rated player in a VCT international tournament. He never mentioned anything about one year being harder than the other he just stated that tenz record is the peak even if tenz had it easier

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dort

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just put on a SEN flair ur doing tricks on it atp

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BulkyLettuce

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hes the highest rated player of all time it isnt glaze im stating a factual stat??? it isnt an opinion

https://x.com/willminder/status/1744843988673184187

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groomer

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No one will replicate that performance because he was playing against complete shitters. Tenz in reykjavik was a radiant smurfing in bronze lobbies

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BUFF163

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leo 2023 > y0y 2022

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cloudberry

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yay's on this list 3 times, btw, guys

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BUFF163

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still not even top 2

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CanadianLegend

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:insert that one meme:

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DSGFan

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This is obvious bait, but to understand how insane prime yay was, he went negative maybe 1 time across all internationals. Statistically, he went 2nd, 4th, and 1st against everyone in Masters 1, Masters 2, and champs respectively.

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ascention

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Not bait - I've watched the old Masters but I've just been kept out of the loop with regards to yay. That's just absolutely insane though. Do you think it's because he was the first to really master Jett, or was he just an aim god?

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Uncleben

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He was super consistent mostly, very good aimer with great positioning
What set him apart from all the other good players was consistency, he didn’t have as high peaks as jinggg or Aspas but he never ever played bad, went negative or anything

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Sidyon

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he didn't master jett first he was just an aim god with an amazing support system behind him and one of the best igls to ever play the game to lead him

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DSGFan

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He fully mastered OP chamber, but besides that he had the calmest most consistent aim. During this time, you just don't peek the angle yay is holding.

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orchestra

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never be good
chamber 1 trick

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ButterflyEffect23

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why are we lying bro

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kanyefan4238173

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ill link you one of my genius posts to illustrate

https://www.vlr.gg/359518/yay-tournament-ratings

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ascention

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Damn shame about where he's at now compared to then. Thanks for the link.

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Prime yay is like if prime Messi and Ronaldo was combined into one super player who was playing in like a Sunday league. He was leagues above the competition and set some records that are yet to be broken (idk if this is true but it sounds cool)

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ayayaay

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2022 across 3 international tournaments, his only bad game was against Guild (M2 Copenhagen)

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sentinelmain377

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W Guild-EU W SayfLeoTrexxKoldamenta for being able to shut down YAY.

Yay was easily best player of 2022 tho. He clears aspas

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7DHh5Zw6pI

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Btwfan

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He was an average player tbh, never really impressed

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teilwal

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Look at his champs 2022 kd bruh y0y was goated also if he didnt have a disasterclass of a grandfinal in berlin he would have cleared reykjavic tenz by a mile

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people should mention that before he even got signed to envy/optic he was on a shitter squad called andbox and would literally drop nukes every single match just to lose
but thats where he got his rep from anyway, after joining envy the actually history began

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Just know that when yay was in his prime, there wasn't any discussion about who the best player in the world was.

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BUFF163

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not even top 10 player itw in his prime

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zardinez

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He was insane. For context, everyone today thinks about Aspas as the GOAT, but Yay was the one guy in 2022 who could diff him reliably (until grand champs final). Keep in mind this guy was putting up superstar consistency against a LOUD with Aspas, Less, Pancada, Sacy, and Saadhak, which would still be a superteam today. He diffed literally everyone, people would see a team go towards his site, and be like ok round’s over,

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he still diffed him in the grand finals https://www.vlr.gg/130685/loud-vs-optic-gaming-valorant-champions-2022-gf/?game=95131&tab=overview

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Ullyr

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Y0y

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The reason why you see so much hate about him is because he was THAT GUY. Think of every pro player you see dominating rn (Aspas/Zekken/Oxy/Jaw/Texture/Something/Woot/Rb etc) he was all of them but x100. If somebody on the enemy team peaked him, no matter what gun he had he would win the 1v1. During 2022 he went negative in 1 series on the intl stage.

No one today and even in 23 are even comparable to him-hes just that good.

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SamBR

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one shot everyone

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Ballsamolee

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Spectacular. Amazing.