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None. And don't listen to those telling you to get an AMD as it will require you to get a bigger power supply unless you want your PC to overheat when you do anything.
Squeeze a bit more money out and get a 4070, they are low in prices ever since the super series came out. Might as well consider a 3070 (which should be cheaper than 4060) at that point.
And if none of those options are possible, just go with the 4060.
It honestly comes down to how much electricity costs in your country. AMD isn’t really much hotter than Nvidia at the lower tiers. You can run a 6950xt (Their hottest card even considering current Gen) on an 850w PSU and everything below with a 750w. Overheating comes down to how well your cooling setup — case and fan orientation — is constructed.
A 4070 is at least an extra $200 on top of a 4060. That not just squeezing out a little more when this guy is considering a budget GPU. Also, the 3070 is heavily choked by VRAM and it doesn’t make sense to discount a 6700XT at that price range.
I don’t know whether your recommendations are because the market is skewed in your region but they’re pretty bad value.
But the point is that with how optimized the 40 series cards are, you don't need a fully decked out cooling system to make sure the system doesn't overheat. You can run a 4070 with just a single air cooler and stock fans on a m-atx case. Can't say the same for an AMD card.
Assuming he won't only be using his PC for gaming, NVIDIA is the better option. Also, even if gaming is his priority, he should still get NVIDIA just because of DLSS. A 4070 with DLSS gives you the same performance as a 4080. Not to mention the support is great. I know that AMD has evolved from its days of lazy updates but they still haven't caught up to NVIDIA. NVIDIA pushes out update every week and adds DLSS support for a shit ton of games.
That extra 200 dollars also means better performance. The 4060 is not really a card worth getting considering resell value and overall performance. That's why I said he should get a 4070 if he can. Plus he didn't really mention it anywhere that it's a budget build and I assure you, neither 4060 or 4070 is considered budget.
No. Just no.
But the point is that with how optimized the 40 series cards are, you don't need a fully decked out cooling system to make sure the system doesn't overheat. You can run a 4070 with just a single air cooler and stock fans on a m-atx case. Can't say the same for an AMD card.
Not at all. Many AMD cards are fine under the same settings. The only times you would need more is if you're using high end 6000 series GPUs.
Assuming he won't only be using his PC for gaming, NVIDIA is the better option.
Depends. A few things are better with AMD.
I know that AMD has evolved from its days of lazy updates but they still haven't caught up to NVIDIA.
Eh. FSR 3.1 is an actually decent competitor to DLSS. DLSS is better, yes, but it's not a night and day difference and FSR is fine for most people.
adds DLSS support for a shit ton of games.
FMF is not limited to any games. It works for everything. While DLSS does have support for a lot of games, some niche titles may fall through the cracks.
it's a budget build and I assure you, neither 4060 or 4070 is considered budget.
A 4060 is absolutely considerd budget. Even if you want to argue it isn't, it's still low end. You can get a PC with a 4060 for <$650.
Since you are active there, can you give me advice for PC I am planning to build this summer. What GPU should I get for this build (max budget for PC = 1500$ and parts listed is what I planned to buy in a local stores):
CPU - R7 5700X (~200$)
Cooler - Thermaltake UX200 SE (~30$, but I could spend more if its needed)
MB - Gigabyte B550M K (~100$)
RAM - Renegade 32GB (2x16) 3600MHz CL16 (~105$)
Storage - Adata XPG Gammix S70 Blade 1TB (~130$)
PSU - was thinking about ToughPower GF1 750W or 850W, but it can be other product under 150$ (maybe i could spend a bit more)
Case - some case with good airflow under 120$ (was thinkin about Cougar Archon 2 Mesh ~60$)
So it leaves ~670$ for GPU, at first I planned to save a lot and go with 3060 but I guess the bottleneck would be awful and there should be other options for 670$ or even 700$. I am planning to play Valorant and CS on 240 or 165Hz 1080p, also to do stuff for my college like beginner to medium level 3D modelling, beginner to medium level video editing (not sure to list InDesign since I am guessing it can work on potato just like Photoshop and Illustrator do).
My local currency, but not precisely converted. Ratio is 1.83BAM : 1USD. For example, literal price of CPU would be 215.86$ in one store, in the other would be 218.03$. And max budget in local currency is 3000BAM which is around 1640USD.
CPU: 215.86$
MB: 106.56$
RAM: 117.48$
GPU: not chosen yet
Storage: 90.16$ (up there I accidentally messed up with price, because I couldn't remember the exact number, it is much lower now when I bothered to check it out)
PSU: 133.88$ (GF1 750W)
Case: 68.30$ (that Cougar one)
Not at all. Many AMD cards are fine under the same settings. The only times you would need more is if you're using high end 6000 series GPUs.
So 6700XT, which the the card that is being suggested to OP, is not high end?
Depends. A few things are better with AMD.
Okay? NVIDIA is still overall better for editing and I think almost everybody including AMD users can agree. "Few things are better" that's what they all say until render times get longer and longer and all of a sudden Adobe is the bad guy (well they are but not in this scenario)
Eh. FSR 3.1 is an actually decent competitor to DLSS. DLSS is better, yes, but it's not a night and day difference and FSR is fine for most people.
It is night and day difference. FSR was hyped for 2 months until it went from "AMD just set new standards!!!" to "AMD must fix FSR upscaling". Also, FSR supports way less games. I still remember when Starfield came out and AMD had partnered with Starfield but they didn't add FSR support for like 2 months lmao.
FMF is not limited to any games. It works for everything. While DLSS does have support for a lot of games, some niche titles may fall through the cracks.
"some niche titles" are those so important that you needed to make a separate point for them? Every new game that comes out, NVIDIA adds DLSS support in less than a week which is more than impressive. I would love to test FSR in more games but AMD needs to do better and push out updates more frequently.
A 4060 is absolutely considerd budget. Even if you want to argue it isn't, it's still low end. You can get a PC with a 4060 for <$650.
Alright man lmao. I thought I was being the inconsiderate one saying $200 price differential isn't that much. And lo and behold, I'm being told that 4060 is budget. If a 4060 is budget then what do you think of cards like 2080, 1660ti, gt710, 5600g integrated builds? Dogshit tier trash? You're in PC part picker forums and I'm in local resell markets. A 4060 is absolutely NOT a budget card for a student looking to build his first PC.
$635 is budget lol. Tell that to the average consumer that is going to buy a prebuilt with a 1660ti
So 6700XT, which the the card that is being suggested to OP, is not high end?
No. Not at all. A high end card would be a 7900Xt/4070 Ti Super.
Though in this context, I'd say 6800+. But even that is still not that bad to cool, it's just hard to power.
Okay? NVIDIA is still overall better for editing
When are we talking about editing? You just said, "if you're not just doing gaming Nvidia is better."
It is night and day difference. FSR was hyped for 2 months until it went from "AMD just set new standards!!
I'm talking about FSR 3.1.
some niche titles" are those so important that you needed to make a separate point for them?
Yes, if the OP is playing said games. It's at least a point worth mentioning.
you think of cards like 2080, 1660ti, gt710, 5600g integrated builds?
Still budget. Only classifications I use are budget, mid, and high. Though I'd call the 5600G an integrated graphics system.
Tell that to the average consumer that is going to buy a prebuilt with a 1660ti
Which is why I'd suggest building it yourself. Prebuilts are pretty trash for the most part.
Another comment did pretty well to address your misgivings about AMD offerings but I want to address two major misconceptions you have.
“DLSS,” which I’m assuming you’re referring to the Frame Gen and not upscaling component, is not added performance. It inserts AI generated frames between real ones to increase perceived smoothness but doesn’t give you a more responsive game. There’s a latency increase as well, making it pointless for esports titles. AMD’s FSR 3.1 while inferior is still competitive and is open source. At the same time, you’re suggesting that a software fix for worse performance is better than just getting more upfront performance which is kinda weird since not every game implements it and its uplift can be unreliable depending on the game.
The 4060 falls squarely into budget territory.
- Below $200 is Entry
- $200 - 350 is Budget
- $350 - $500 is Midrange
- $500 - $700 is High End
- $700+ is Enthusiast
You’ve suggested that he jump from a budget value GPU to a High End one. I agree that the 4060 isn’t worth getting but suggesting a card that is probably way outside the guy’s budget instead of an AMD or Intel offering (6700/6750XT or A770) is weird. It breaks the first rule of building PCs which is to stay in the budget.
Granted, an A770 is more prone to driver issues and worse performance on older games and a 6700XT runs a bit hotter. 8/10 informed builders would still recommend the 6700XT in this guy’s case unless it’s clarified that he needs CUDA though. It might run 100W more than a 4060 but you can literally power it with a 600W PSU as long as your CPU isn’t an overclocked 14900K. It’s disingenuous to laud lower power draw and heat at this tier unless you’re building a sffpc or your electricity bill has one of the highest rates in the world.
OP’s flag is Italian and their average electricity prices are 17.5¢ per kWh. If he averages 4 hours gaming every day, that’s only an extra $25 per year with the 100W increased power draw. That’s for a gpu with 15-20% more performance and 4GB more VRAM at the same base price. If OP’s electricity is even cheaper then all the more reason to go AMD.
Nvidia is really only good “value” if you absolutely need CUDA or Tensor cores for productivity. Their market strategy is to upsell you to more premium, poor value products by gimping their lower tier segments. Sure they have the best consumer GPU on the market but it costs nearly double its AMD competitor for 20% more performance ($900 vs $1750). RT is another story with a 60-70% uplift but it’s still rather niche right now — of course this is at the expense of driver overhead with CPU bound games where AMD can pull out more frames in titles like Microsoft Flight Sim or anything esports.
At anything below a 4080 ($900), AMD has better value options if you’re strictly gaming.
“DLSS,” which I’m assuming you’re referring to the Frame Gen and not upscaling component, is not added performance. It inserts AI generated frames between real ones to increase perceived smoothness but doesn’t give you a more responsive game. There’s a latency increase as well, making it pointless for esports titles. AMD’s FSR 3.1 while inferior is still competitive and is open source. At the same time, you’re suggesting that a software fix for worse performance is better than just getting more upfront performance which is kinda weird since not every game implements it and its uplift can be unreliable depending on the game.
DLSS is meant for demanding PC games, not eSports titles. I have no idea why you suddenly started talking about eSports because most people use DLSS for visually demanding games. The added latency is barely noticeable. The whole point of "added performance" part is that when you run a game with DLSS on a 4060, you can get performance closer to a 4070. AMD's FSR isn't even available in most games to properly test it out. The last time I played Cyberpunk, there was no native support for FSR (you needed a mod for that) and it was pretty pathetic. And for the games where it is available, there's blatant upscaling issues. FSR doesn't yet match the quality and performance boost provided by DLSS, and being open source does not inherently make it better.
The 4060 falls squarely into budget territory.
Do you... see nothing wrong with the fact that both gt710 and 2070 super are considered entry level according to your rules? Also you do realize that there is a huge gap between budget and mid-range? I looked up all the recent videos suggesting "budget GPU for 2024" and not a single one of them has 4060 in it. I have looked at a few Reddit posts and not a single one of them says 4060 is budget. You can go to any market and ask for a budget plan and not a single one of them will suggest a 4060. I'm not sure what was the point of this. This wasn't even the topic OP was talking about. You guys just came here and chose to say something that is absolutely not true, not from the perspective of anyone. We get it man, anything below a special collab edition 4090 with the price of 4 jizzilion dollars is budget to you guys. If you still want to vehemently argue against this fact then go ahead man.
8/10 informed builders would still recommend the 6700XT in this guy’s case unless it’s clarified that he needs CUDA though
Except there is a thing called "future proofing" and no one wants to be locked out of options, being forced to only pick one. So in this case, 8/10 informed builders would recommend an NVIDIA card and 8/10 internet users would recommend an AMD card.
OP’s flag is Italian and their average electricity prices are 17.5¢ per kWh. If he averages 4 hours gaming every day, that’s only an extra $25 per year with the 100W increased power draw. That’s for a gpu with 15-20% more performance and 4GB more VRAM at the same base price. If OP’s electricity is even cheaper then all the more reason to go AMD.
It's not just about the electricity bill. Lower power consumption often translates to less heat generation, quieter operation, and potentially longer hardware lifespan. These factors contribute to the overall user experience and can justify opting for a more power-efficient GPU like those from NVIDIA, especially in compact or thermally constrained builds.
Nvidia is really only good “value” if you absolutely need CUDA or Tensor cores for productivity
NVIDIA is really good value because their consistent driver updates and broader software ecosystem provide added value for users who engage in both gaming and productivity tasks. And if this wasn't enough, then there's the upscaling, the raytracing, the CUDA and Tensor cores, the power efficiency. And on top of that, the resell value on NVIDIA is mind boggling. NVIDIA cards are so future-proof that people are still asking whether they should upgrade from their 1080ti/2070 super.
I sleep like a baby knowing I can sell my 4070 Super for 90% of it's price. Unless AMD can do something other than slap more VRAM onto their shit, they will never outperform and outvalue NVIDIA. I'll wait for the day when AMD can promise me good performance without requiring a fish tank case with cooling that can freeze the river thames.
I brought up esports titles because that’s what SuperRoss plays. Extra performance from a stronger GPU is better than Upscaling and Frame Gen with a weaker GPU. AMD generally offers more performance for less money up until the halo products.
Yes. Both the GT710 and RTX 2070 fall into entry tier with further nuance that the former should never be considered and the latter is bad value compared to a 5700XT precisely because of resale value. It’s not an absolute scale dude. There’s nuance between tiers but a simplified grouping is good for newcomers to get a general understanding of their options.
Future proofing isn’t applicable to everyone. Some people buy 4090s thinking they’ll get into 3D modeling and Rendering but end up opening Minecraft RTX every time they boot up their PCs.
I already made my point of power consumption and heat when I mentioned SFFPCs. It’s all a matter of personal preference here as long as your provide enough cooling for your parts.
People ask about upgrading from their 1080ti’s because prices exploded during the shortage and every current gen product from Nvidia costs more but offers less than before. Smaller buses, less memory, less cores (4060 vs 3060), and less value.
Nvidia has superior software on a more advanced node but gives consumers terrible value because of it. They’re the Apple of the industry and will keep shafting us at lower product tiers because their supporters insist that it’s better than investing in slightly inferior competitors that offer similar options at better prices.
For someone who talks about legitimizing cheaper GPUs it baffles my mind that you don’t see how anti-consumer they are.
DLSS is meant for demanding PC games, not eSports titles. I have no idea why you suddenly started talking about eSports because most people use DLSS for visually demanding games.
We are talking about using it for the OP. The OP has only mentioned that they are playing valorant. Not sure why you care about visually demanding games if the OP is never going to play said games.
Do you... see nothing wrong with the fact that both gt710 and 2070 super are considered entry level according to your rules? Also you do realize that there is a huge gap between budget and mid-range?
Where is this coming from? What? Then what are you classifying those cards?
Also, where is the difference in performance? You're going from a 6700XT to a 7700XT, and you can barely squeeze in a 7800XT. But I'd classify a 7800XT as mid range(personally, as it can play 1440p perfectly fine.). So you're getting an extra ~25FPS by going up a tier at 1080. Perfectly reasonable.
https://tpucdn.com/review/sapphire-radeon-rx-7900-gre-pulse/images/average-fps-1920-1080.png
https://www.techspot.com/articles-info/2812/bench/1080p-p.webp
I looked up all the recent videos suggesting "budget GPU for 2024" and not a single one of them has 4060 in it.
Because the 4060 sucks. It has one use case: Playing only at 1080p and you need Nvidia. In any other scenario, either AMD or the 3060 12GB is better. No one would suggest the 4060 when you can find the 6700XT(12GB of VRAM, much better performance) for only $15 more.
You guys just came here and chose to say something that is absolutely not true, not from the perspective of anyone. We get it man, anything below a special collab edition 4090 with the price of 4 jizzilion dollars is budget to you guys. If you still want to vehemently argue against this fact then go ahead man.
LOL. What's your definition of budget? A $300 system? I've already given you a list with the 4060 that was less than $650. I'd classify a budget system as a <$700 system. Do you have any proof that anyone else doesn't classify the 4060 as budget? Here are multiple videos where the 4060 is called a budget card:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kDJ7cUQb5o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUZEQbFKBrw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Td0mVTBl51Y
Lower power consumption often translates to less heat generation, quieter operation, and potentially longer hardware lifespan
All of which mean basically nothing. The only one I think is even arguable is quieter operation, but that depends on the model. Here's two MSI models. Difference in noise is like 3dBA
https://tpucdn.com/review/msi-radeon-rx-6700-xt-gaming-x/images/fannoise_load.png
https://tpucdn.com/review/msi-geforce-rtx-4060-gaming-x/images/fan-noise.png
These factors contribute to the overall user experience
Yes, because I care that the GPU outputs 3dBA less.
NVIDIA is really good value because their consistent driver updates and broader software ecosystem provide added value for users who engage in both gaming and productivity tasks. And if this wasn't enough, then there's the upscaling, the raytracing, the CUDA and Tensor cores, the power efficiency.
This is all true. Yet, AMD provides better performance on average, costs less, and has an actual competitor to DLSS(finally).
And on top of that, the resell value on NVIDIA is mind boggling. NVIDIA cards are so future-proof that people are still asking whether they should upgrade from their 1080ti/2070 super.
Just like people asking if they should move on from their 5700XT.
I sleep like a baby knowing I can sell my 4070 Super for 90% of it's price.
LMAO not a chance. You can't find any GPU that sold for 90% of it's price that was used.
Unless AMD can do something other than slap more VRAM onto their shit, they will never outperform and outvalue NVIDIA.
AMD has much better price to performance for raster.
I'll wait for the day when AMD can promise me good performance without requiring a fish tank case with cooling that can freeze the river thames.
Since when did AMD require a lot of cooling? Have you even seen the 7000 series GPUs yet?
It honestly comes down to how much electricity costs in your country.
Means absolutely nothing. At most, you'll save like a dollar.
6950xt (Their hottest card even considering current Gen) on an 850w PSU and everything below with a 750w.
You cannot run a 6950XT with an 850W PSU unless you're using a very weak CPU and/or extremly high end unit. A 6950XT can spike up 550W+.
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ4E4FBk-Jyt2GQq1l-mfUohiMme1Cmdj-DXA&s
Also, you're not factoring in the CPU at all. i9-13900K can pull 340W under full load.
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRwOUXpLa896SGoUG6UgKOs3pWqdpmdoRfDow&s
Those two alone = 890W, greater than your 850W unit.
Also, the 3070 is heavily choked by VRAM
VRAM only matters in some games. In others, like Valorant, it literally doesn't matter at all.
850w is the minimum requirement of a 6950xt and it’s recommended you undervolt it anyway. You pulled out one of the hottest CPUs on the market as if it proves me wrong when the majority of people would be running a 12600K or 5800x3D when it came out. Nobody would buy one now unless it’s from the used market and they certainly wouldn’t pair it with a 13900K if they were doing that.
Your point about VRAM is obvious but 12GB > 8GB when the price is the same. Some games deal with a lack of VRAM by crapping out your textures, stuttering, or just straight up crashing — It doesn’t matter until it suddenly does. Games like Hogwarts Legacy already break the 8GB buffer at 1080p. I brought up the 3070 because its baseline performance enables it to be capable of more in such titles but its VRAM literally chokes it.
Edit: I brought up electricity prices because it’s actual point of consideration in countries like Germany during their energy crisis. While the USA averages 12¢ per kWH, Germany hit 40¢ in 2022 and averaged ~25¢ in 2023 — only dropping to 17.6¢ this year. That really adds up if the GPU that’s more expensive upfront is nearly twice as efficient in the long term. Most people building that year in Germany all went Nvidia.
If you're going to undervolt it, it may be okay...
I just grabbed a CPU that I knew would break your recommended wattage.
But even with a 12600K, you're still pulling 150W at max draw, plus say 450W(I've never undervolted before, not sure what kind of power you'll be drawing) with a 6950XT undervolt = 600W + your other parts...
It might be fine but is still on the riskier side.
You also lose a bit of performance by undervolting.
VRAM point is true, but only matters if the OP will play these games.
OP has only mentioned valorant.
Edit: okay, fair point about electricity. I was thinking you meant for normal usage and scenarios, where it doesn't matter.
GPUs don’t have any compatibility limitations. They operate via the PCIe slot on your motherboard which is standard across all platforms. Think of it as a separate module that you slot into a universal port.
If you don’t mind me asking, what’s your budget and what region are you purchasing from? US pricing is extremely competitive but other regions tend to have a bias towards certain brands due to supply constraints. PCPartPicker is a great resource for compiling your parts but it’s always good to consider the secondhand market and asking around forums for a second opinion. Make sure to change the location to your own when you use it for accurate price listings.
It’s recommended that your GPU take up 30-40% of your budget but it really depends on how constrained it is. You also have to consider peripherals (monitor, mouse, keyboard, headset/mic). I don’t mind giving you a helping hand if you have any other questions since this is one of my hobbies. Feel free to ask!
Edit: Sales like the one I posted don’t often last long so make sure to keep an eye out. Although… it’s technically possible that the seller wasn’t legit. Second-hand online distributors (drop shippers) will and do scam people — be careful.
i only have the case from my old pc (only decent thing from that shitbox) i have a friend who knows far more about pc's than me and we kinda got an initial list of components down (my total budget would be around 1000, with the idea being to make it possible to upgrade in the future when i get a job that doesn't pay me slave wages) and he wasn't too sure either about gpu's and prices and stuff so i've been asking around on forums.
as things stands my 3rd gen i5 and my gtx 960 struggle to keep val at 30fps on the lowest settings so i kinda need a new pc that can last me for at least like half a decade
You can look at local stores but from what I’ve read, Amazon.de and Mindfactory tend to have the cheapest prices. Mindfactory has shipping constraints that would require you to work with a third party mailing service.
Geizhals is the best website to see prices across all of Europe but you’ll have to account for VAT conversion and shipping viability/cost. The cheapest distributors are generally from Germany and the UK but the latter will have customs fee from no longer being part of the EU. Italian VAT is 22% while those German distributors have prices with a 19% VAT. If you use them to compile parts, you’ll have to budget for €975 to account for that differential that will only show up at checkout.
I recommend starting with Geizhals and then going through Amazon.it and .de to get an idea of what you’re working with. Do you already have a monitor or do you need to buy one as well? What about other peripherals?
If not, you’re firmly in 1080p territory with your budget. I’m going to reply to this commend with a list of some parts that would likely suit your build.
thank you very much, this is very helpful, here are the components we had picked so far: ASUS TUF Gaming Z790-Plus; Intel Core i5-12600K; Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 32 GB (2x16 GB) 3600 MHz, Cooler Master Hyper H412R; MSI MPG A850G PCIE5, 850w; Crucial P3 Plus SSD 1TB PCIe Gen4 NVMe M.2 SSD; Crucial BX500 1TB 3D NAND SATA 2.5-inch SSD; and a gpu.
my budget is flexible, i don't mind spending a little more if it's worth it and i can afford it, i already have good peripherals, thank you for your help and time.
Wait, I'm not quite following. Does your €1000 include the monitor or do you already have one? If not, I highly recommend the AOC 24g4X — it's the best-in-class 1080p monitor when you account for high refresh and color gamut. It costs €130 but can go on sale for €105.
The 12600K is a great choice but nets an extra 4 e-cores over the 12400F for an extra €59 when they don't contribute to gaming performance. That's money that could go to your GPU.
Z790 Boards are only DDR5 compatible and generally cost more because of increased PCIe 4.0 lanes. The TUF Z790 is €270 when you could get a sufficient B660 for €90 - €120.
RGB for RAM is purely cosmetic. Prioritize performance — 32GB of 3200 MHz CL16. €14 savings if you forego the RGB.
The Hyper 412r is worse than the Thermalright Assassin X. It's more compact but louder, compensating with a higher RPM and deeper finstack because the fan is smaller.
MGP A850G is a high-end PSU. €140 is quite expensive for an ATX PSU. Are you sure you need 850w and does it have to be fully modular at 80+ Gold? You could allocate anywhere from €40 - €70 from this to your GPU.
The Crucial P3 Plus is a good choice. I don't understand why your secondary drive is a SATA when you could buy another NVMe M.2 drive. The price differential is negligible and reliability is higher with NVMe.
Add up those savings from budgeting your other parts more strictly and you have nearly €320 for your GPU. I'd recommend a RX 6800 which would let you abuse high refresh for even single-player games at 1080p — they're going for about €400 between Amazon de and it.
Here's a compiled list of the parts. There's no case included though.
https://it.pcpartpicker.com/user/WoozyKoala/saved/#view=PMM7CJ
Edit: The list I linked is to illustrate the best value for performance. It sacrifices RGB aesthetics and add-ons like Wifi and more robust heatsinks. It will crush every 1080p Ultra settings game you throw at it even if it doesn't look pretty. Throw an optional €50 to get a nicer board and RGB RAM.
I already have the monitor and all peripherals, i might upgrade in the future but i already have good enough stuff atm
Might fuck around and get a kf
The asus z790-plus i found says ddr4 in the title, but maybe it's a typo
Ngl i want a 850w psu so i can upgrade in the future without worrying about that, idk about modular and 80+ gold we just went for one from a known brand
We went for the hyper 412r because of size limitations, most cpu coolers won't fit
I'll check the list as soon as i can, thanks, i don't really care about rgb and aesthetic
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