Demon1 hate is so unreasonable

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He posts clips on twitter and the comments are "as an honest NRG fan why weren't you doing this on the NRG "
1) He never got reps on his best agents which were Brimstone and Astra.
2) He is a System Player, on EG he played similar to a Sentinel during defaults constantly trying to work picks and also being a great entry player.
3) His Fiancé is chronically ill, and you expect him to play his best?

A Major factor for his poor play was due to him having an inexperienced IGL and people expecting him to carry the weight of the world on his shoulders. If you plug him into the current NRG roster and remove Victor, NRG will probably be the best team in the world, and S0M has a very refined Raze. I think Demon1 really could shine if you give him more reps on the Controller role, when S0M is playing raze and you allow him to be him.
It's a very similar story to TenZ you guys bash this guys head in all last year when his Fiance had Cancer and he played poor due to a all of the hate and expectations, he changes role's get a good foundation and system around him he plays like a top 5 player every single tournament.

STOP BASHING PLAYERS YOU ARE GOLD.

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0ld st0nky c0t

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clears foot

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*f00t

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*L00t

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is Demon1 really hated tho?

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Yes lol

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yeah even last year when this mf was a rookie and dogging on everyone

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sen fans shitting on demon1 when tenz was going thru the same shit last year and underperforming is ironic af

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from a birds eye view you could say he was shit but when looking deeper you can actually see Ethan's IGLing was fucking horrible and demon1 didn't have that system around him.

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there’s no denying he’s a system player but if u give him that system he will carry, there’s so many system players that still underperform even if everything is handed 2 them

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envyz

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yeah I agree, you could say the same for a lot of young and cracked players like OXY etc

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TenZ was never expected to perform to the same level demon1 was expected to perform to (plus TenZ wasn't even "underperforming"), people already knew TenZ fell off since 2021 but demon1 didn't since he just came off being the MVP from champs 2023. The excuse of people saying that he was a system player was only developed AFTER he was dropped from EG and did horrible on NRG, I never once heard that demon1 was a system player while he was on EG.

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It was Demon1's rookie year, couldn't really know he was a system player until he was out of that system

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Wait... was he never meant to be a crazy duelist player like we saw on EG???

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he didn’t need to play duelist to mog anyone last year

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Im saying he was insane on jett last year, its what got him known tbh...

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no his mechanics are too good, pretty sure he has the best rifle v rifle stat he was just doming everyone on controller too lol

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so he can only play 2 Agents
he can only play well when other players set him fully up with util
billions of people have similar problems and go to work every day

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They said those were his best agents, never said he could only play those two
He had someone as IGL who never did that before and the team was just poor overall tbh
Yeah... and, it was his choice to take a break to help her, how about just respect that

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Yoo u have legit mental retardation or maybe autism or down syndrome idk . Pretty impressive that u were able to put together those words with that bird brain of urs.

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yea surely im serious, well 1 of those is true, rest was to bait the 70IQ USA flags

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smartest navi flair LMAO

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atleast show some sympathy, + his best agent is Chamber/Astra and his brim as also very solid.

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same with boaster hate

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w b0tster hate he cant shoot and should jst retire, hes wasting t1 space for better players

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his fragging is about the same as FNS, u gonna ask fns to retire too?

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no, because FNS is from NA

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FNS has proven he can shoot b0tster is the equivalent of a traffic cone. During champs 2023 whenever teams saw aspas on site they'd hit the other site, but when teams see b0tster on site they hit it knowing its a free round

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lmao

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i'm the biggest fns glazer on this site but fns can only shoot feet

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Air?

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W post

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Aint readin allat, Lemon1

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i like lemons

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diamond1

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Well, he decided to play the role of the villain, thinking he's the best player in the world.
The phrase "respect the fcking name" speaks for itself about the arrogance of this brat.
Lemon1 washed

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nobody___100

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not really arrogance
he was the best player in the world, and for some reason you're butthurt

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SamBR

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He may have been ONE of the best player in the world, but his arrogance led him to fade into obscurity.
Now, he's just a joke in the E-sports scene. Who's butthurt now?

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you are butthurt, you're the one saying "arrogance of this brat". he isn't really arrogant, he joined a bum team and won. its not his arrogance that "led him to fade into obscurity", its ch0t the snake and NRG's failure of a system. i wouldn't even say he's obscure now, he gets solid viewership on twitch as well. afaik he's a really nice guy irl and he made the scene way more entertaining with his villain persona.
quit being butthurt, you're coping from tokyo and champs.

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I think his arrogance was overstated during that run and blown up as an excuse to hate him.

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fr he was legit on a team that were running this 'villian' personality so of course he was gonna talk shit and act arrogant, i dont know why people think his act somehow makes him a shit person

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Also, I feel like that was mostly the community building the villain thing as well. Like he said "respect my fucking name" and stood on a table. Maybe I am missing twitter comments or something but from purely watching the game I was confused to why he was being painted that way.

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i mean to be fair, EG were the only ones saying other teams were bad, or calling out regions. Also, the whole respect my name and shooting bodies thing gave them that rep of being a fiesty villainous team, but atleast it made champs interesting

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well he backed up all of his shit talk with his performances but atleast show sympathy for his situation

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Friend, as I mentioned to the other guy below, what happens in any player's personal life is none of my business.
I don't know what's going on in his life, and I don't care if he's rich, has a girlfriend, has a mom, NOTHING. I only talk about Valorant.

Call him Lemon1 is offensive?
Wahed player?

Please don't confuse things

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People will always let hate blind them from what's actually going on. He is in the same situation as TenZ was last year and his fiancé's bones are disintegrating but because he decided to shit talk, he now deserves no sympathy for what's happening in his life. Truly heartless individuals.

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nothing more to ad.

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you do realise he is saying that the hate towards demon1 is unwarranted even if he talked shit? why u agreeing if you calling him lemon1?
Get a life and stop hating on someone who makes quadruple the yearly income you will ever make and was the best player in the world last year at champs on a 'villiain team' (so of course hes gonna talk shit what do you expect) and now his fiance and him are going thru so much shit.

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Where is the hate kid.
he is arrogant, so what?
where is the hate?
Im not insulting his family, so stop being so sentimental defending a player who doesn't even know you exist

Lemon1

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im just saying that if i hated on your mother for some shit that happened last year which she literally did as an act/joke, while she is with her husband who is fighting cancer, you would be pretty livid. Now imagine thousands of people on the internet are doing that to your mother.

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I think you're getting too caught up in the internet. I didn't even know about this story.
To be honest, I couldn't care less about what happens in the personal lives of players. I stick to criticizing and praising what matters in the E-sports scene, and indeed, he had a moment of being a good player, but ultimately only proved himself as such, nothing more.

Now, if you want to defend him personally, do it on Twitter or Twitch, because nobody here is attacking his family

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