Top smokes of all time

#1

Uncleben

Mako (insane through 2022,2023, and 2024)
Marved (could swap with pancada)
Pancada
Mindfreak
Tuyz

Hm; tenz, S0m

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FrenchToast

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controller players just hit different 😍

#3

Uncleben

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Ong literally everyone on this list is hot 🥵

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FrenchToast

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it’s a prerequisite for smokes at this point

beyn, karon this year too 😍😍

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Uncleben

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Beyn is so fine 🥵

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Average_NA_fan

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marved hot? OMEGALUL

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FrenchToast

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he is soooo hot
bitches love ice man. it’s me, i’m bitches.

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Uncleben

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Old marved low key cleared everyone on this list

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Kiko

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old marved sexy. now its marved6 hundred pounds

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KingJark

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he bulking bro

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Julia_Boaskivisk

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Mako
Pancada
Tuyz
Mindfreak
Marved

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Psion

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i thought ur name was julia bolshevik lmfaoo

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Julia_Boaskivisk

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lmaoo

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Psion

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who even is julia boaskivisk

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Uncleben

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Marved is more consistent than tuyz and Mindfreak imo, keep in mind tuyz only in tier 1 valo since 2023

#11

ZekaTheGoat

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Pancada is overrated. He peaked in one event and he wasn't even the best controller on that event. S0m clears.

Mako
-- MONUMENTAL GAP--
S0m
Marved
--MASSIVE GAP--
And then the rest

#14

FrenchToast

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??????
i will not tolerate pancada slander
especially since he wasn’t even given a chance on controller in 2023. he was on senti for 99% of the time.

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Uncleben

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Who was the best controller in 2023 champs then?

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ZekaTheGoat

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Mako

#18

Uncleben

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Pancada cleared him in champs individually and his team won, idk how mako was better in champs lol

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Hyopic

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Pancada wasn’t at 2023 champs fam

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Uncleben

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Yeah my bad I meant 2022 champs

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Hyopic

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yea thats why that guy said mako. personally imo (judging from all their peaks) its probably marved pancada mako s0m tuyz. Marved and Pancada have won majors and even if you call either one of them flukes, they've been in the top 3 of more tournaments than mako has.

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Uncleben

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The problem is the fact that both have had years in which they didn’t make any lans while mako has always performed and outperforms them even in events which they both play

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Hyopic

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well yeah, marved was a sixth man in 2023 and pancada was on sentinel so even if sentinels made it to LANS both of them wouldn't have been good smokes players tbh. If marved was on NRG they would have still made it to tokyo and champs, if pancada was still on LOUD they would have still made it to tokyo and champs, meaning they probably would have been top 3 in one tournament last year (for pancada maybe top 2 or 1 since tuyz wasnt experienced during LOCK//IN). Mako outperformed them in a year in which neither was in a good position to compete, and considering that we both probably agree marved and pancada would have produced similar results if they stayed on their teams, I don't think it's a question that mako is below them. I need to see mako win a trophy at least once. If it's on DRX sure, that's fine, but honestly I think he'd be able to produce results off of the current coaching staff he's on.

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Uncleben

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The problem is that ur conclusions are assumptions, which certainly could have happened, but we have no way of knowing

Mako on the other hand we have seen preform every single of year of vct

Individual skills and trophies are not the same, mako can be better than pancada and marved without winning any trophies

continue thread →

#13

MAHVEL

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1) Cheech

2) Chong

3) silent bob.

4) snoop dog

5) Smokey (from Friday)

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vey1212

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If TenZ can make the top smokes of all time list by playing well for 2 months then Monyet should be able to too and if you are gonna argue that TenZ won a masters playing smokes the look at Redgar at masters berlin 2nd best astra at the whole event even above marved (minimum 100 rounds)

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Uncleben

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He is honorable mention for a reason bozo

#25

vey1212

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How is he even HM? Do you even know what that means? But more importantly didn't your mom teach you how to be respectful. Mb missed the flag

#30

Uncleben

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Hm means honorable mention
Tenz was the second best player for sen at kickoff and at Madrid
Monyet’s best accomplishment was playing well in apac league (weaker than amer and Emea)
U might just be slow brotha

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Hynix

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holy w

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teilwal

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C9 floppy

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Anoymouse

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Better list

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Hynix

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also note that mako was the best dedicated controller player during both masters berlin 2021 and champs 2021, he's been a demon since the start of VCT

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based. HM karon so far

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DeluluGavin

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mako was great in 2021 too

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moatz

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W. An actually reasonable list.

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H0r0sha

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1) Mako
2) Marved
3) Shao
4) Mindfreak
5) Pancada
Others have to prove a lot to be put on the above list.

#39

amedy

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why is no one putting shao on this list? bro is literally one of the cleanest omens itw

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Ballsamolee

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s0m was better than tuyz last year

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v8w

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MaKo
mindfreak
TenZ
pancada
Karon

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Indra420

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Mako
Mindfreak
Marved
Pancada
tuyz/s0m

pancada is low bcus its been so long since hes played as a controller but if he carrried his 2022 form hed be top 1

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lilbhosduu

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sScary Bang Bonecold Avova Melser Mazino are honorable mentions